CO - Jessica Hernandez, 17, killed by police after LEO struck by stolen car

[katydid23]

If one of my teens were in this vehicle - I would want them to speak out early to combat what they perceive as misinformation being spread around, and to do it anonymously. Anonymous would be paramount to me as a parent.

Many folks support LE no matter what action they take - and they can and have been militant in their statements. That would be somewhat scary to the teens or anyone else in the position of a different view than LE. But it should not over ride their ability to speak. Jmo.

I get anonymous fwiw.

If it was one of my teens, I would want them to APOLOGIZE. I would expect them to cooperate with the investigation and to take personal accountability for the tragedy they helped to create. I would be personally mortified at my own shortcomings as a parent, for allowing my kid to take part in such illegal and dangerous nonsense. Her being anonymous would not be okay with me.

 

[katydid23]

Is there a link to that statement?

Seems to me that was after the shooting. That's what I have heard a teen witness say - and it makes sense with a driver that has been shot - no control over the direction of the vehicle.

Reinforces anonymous statements by witnesses, imo.

here is the link:

http://www.9news.com/story/news/loca...tory/22449579/


I dont get what you mean, exactly. You mean she hit him after she was shot? That would make sense. But she still would have to have been aiming the car in his direction, because she did not turn after she was shot.

 

[katydid23]

If it was one of my teens, I would want them to APOLOGIZE. I would expect them to cooperate with the investigation and to take personal accountability for the tragedy they helped to create. I would be personally mortified at my own shortcomings as a parent, for allowing my kid to take part in such illegal and dangerous nonsense. Her being anonymous would not be okay with me.

ETA: And many folks support criminals no matter what action they take. And that has to be scary for LE and their families, to know that no matter what is done to them, they will be criticized if they defend themselves. A girl driving a stolen car aims it at the officer and drives right at him, and the response is " Why not let them drive away into the neighborhood and let police follow slowly from a distance?"

 

[Woodland]

If it was one of my teens, I would want them to APOLOGIZE. I would expect them to cooperate with the investigation and to take personal accountability for the tragedy they helped to create. I would be personally mortified at my own shortcomings as a parent, for allowing my kid to take part in such illegal and dangerous nonsense. Her being anonymous would not be okay with me.

How do you know that has not or is not currently happening? Your conclusion should have back up - just like LE is going to need and should have. Jmo.

 

[Woodland]

here is the link:

http://www.9news.com/story/news/loca...tory/22449579/


I dont get what you mean, exactly. You mean she hit him after she was shot? That would make sense. But she still would have to have been aiming the car in his direction, because she did not turn after she was shot.

That link is not opening.

 

[katydid23]

That link is not opening.

try this one:

http://www.9news.com/story/news/loc...ess-to-cop-shooting-tells-her-story/22449579/


"When the cops walked up, they were on [Jessica's] side of the car, and they shot the window and they shot her. That's when she wrecked, and that's when the cop got hit."


Jessica Hernandez (Photo: Courtesy)
The eyewitness said, due to the shooting, Jessica was not in control of the car when it hit the officer.

The conflicting information doesn't prove any wrongdoing on the part of Denver officers, it should be said, but it does offer an alternate theory as to what led up to the shooting.

The officer suffered a broken leg, according to Chief White. The witness tells 9Wants to Know the officer was pinned between the car and a fence, and that's why the officer suffered a broken leg.

An autopsy completed by the Denver Coroner's Office indicates Hernandez died as a result of multiple gunshot wounds. The office would not comment on what "multiple" meant, but another witness tells 9Wants to Know she remembers hearing at least four shots.

http://www.9news.com/story/news/loc...ess-to-cop-shooting-tells-her-story/22449579/

 

[Woodland]

"The witness tells 9Wants to Know the officer was pinned between the car and a fence, and that's why the officer suffered a broken leg."



If the officer was pinned between the car and a fence, then sounds to me like the driver was aiming for him. She could not have turned the car after the shooting.

If this link is from post #97, sadly the statement highlighted is not there.

 

[katydid23]

How do you know that has not or is not currently happening? Your conclusion should have back up - just like LE is going to need and should have. Jmo.

I don't know that it is not happening. Did I say it was not? I think I said that I personally would want my kid to do that. I never said that this anonymous kid was or was not doing so.

 

[katydid23]

If this link is from post #97, sadly the statement highlighted is not there.

I cut and pasted it again just now:

The officer suffered a broken leg, according to Chief White. The witness tells 9Wants to Know the officer was pinned between the car and a fence, and that's why the officer suffered a broken leg.

 

[Woodland]

The source of the cut and paste would be helpful, albeit not necessary.

 

[katydid23]

The source of the cut and paste would be helpful, albeit not necessary.

http://www.9news.com/story/news/loc...ess-to-cop-shooting-tells-her-story/22449579/

 

[katydid23]

The link above is working fine for me. I don't know if it works for everyone. ?

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know that it is not happening. Did I say it was not? I think I said that I personally would want my kid to do that. I never said that this anonymous kid was or was not doing so.

This anonymous witness was riding in a stolen car. Of course they are going to lie but apologize to the injured officer? I doubt that will happen unless ordered by a Judge to do so.

JMO

 

[Woodland]

Right, so the context of the witness statement is, LE shot the driver of the vehicle and she lost control - which is when the officer was hurt.

Anonymous is so correct for the teens right now imo.

 

[MyBelle]

The link above is working fine for me. I don't know if it works for everyone. ?

works super-doper. Thanks!

 

[al66pine]

Originally Posted by katydid23 "If it was one of my teens, I would want them to APOLOGIZE. I would expect them to cooperate with the investigation and to take personal accountability for the tragedy they helped to create. I would be personally mortified at my own shortcomings as a parent, for allowing my kid to take part in such illegal and dangerous nonsense. Her being anonymous would not be okay with me."

How do you know that has not or is not currently happening?
Your conclusion should have back up - just like LE is going to need and should have. Jmo.

We're reading katy's post differently from one another. Here's what I see in her post:
If her teen had been passenger in car w Jessica, i.e., a hypothetical situation, katy would want her teen
to apologize, cooperate, to take personal accountability for her participation.

Does her post say passenger(s) involved in this real-life situation did not apologize, not cooperate, etc.? IDTS.
If katy's post had said that, then yes, she should provide link for it. Imo, her post does not call for link to backup.
I am not a Mod and do not play one on TV or W/S.
JM2cts (I c/be wrong and if you don't believe it, just ask my better half ).

 

[katydid23]

Right, so the context of the witness statement is, LE shot the driver of the vehicle and she lost control - which is when the officer was hurt.

Anonymous is so correct for the teens right now imo.

Right, But the driver was shot while she was driving towards a cop, who was trapped between the car and a fence. Very dangerous situation. Probably better that she was shot before she was able to purposely run him over, which could have been deadly. As it was, the car only hit his leg.

 

[MyBelle]

Right, so the context of the witness statement is, LE shot the driver of the vehicle and she lost control - which is when the officer was hurt.

Anonymous is so correct for the teens right now imo.

Except cops know the identity and likely will charge them for being in a stolen car. Minor, minor details.....

JMO

 

[CoolJ]

Except cops know the identity and likely will charge them for being in a stolen car. Minor, minor details.....

JMO

Is it illegal to be a passenger in a stolen car? I would think it would have to be proven that the passengers were aware it was a stolen car. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Is it illegal to be a passenger in a stolen car? I would think it would have to be proven that the passengers were aware it was a stolen car. JMO

When they are parked in an alley in the middle of the night, and the cops roll up, and ask them to 'exit the vehicle'---why wouldn't they do so if they thought they were in a friends legal car?