CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #20

[Ghostwheel]

Not normally. Most often kids are 18 when they graduate. I was 17 when I graduated but that was due to the rules for kindergarten when I was younger. At that time, you needed to be 5 yrs old by December 1st. My birthday was Dec 1 so I was the youngest in my class.
In our area of the US, the kindergarten rule is now 5 by September 1st.

Also, it is reported that Austin quit high school last year and got his GED. (General Education Equivilance Test that is showing he knew all he needed to know in order to graduate.) Although it is in some ways "equal" to a high school diploma, many employers (right or wrong) don't count the GED as equal. Many see a GED person as a "quitter" who didn't stay in school. Not always a fair assessment, as there are many reasons including medical issues, many relocations, etc that are the true reason the person chose GED.

Wow. In our area, a lot of kids took the GED so they could move on to college. They didn't see the point in wasting time in High School when they could be going to college. And employers knew this and didn't hold it against anyone. Sad that they might have moved somewhere else where they would be judged as a "quitter", when they were really the movers.

 

[passionflower]

Speaking of Instagram, did everybody see the picture he had of what looked like the recovery site of Jessica's remains that had a vertical funnel like cloud topped by a hand with a pointed silver spear thingy coming out of the thumb?

Has that been mentioned/discussed? I've missed pages here and there.

No I have not seen it. Any screenshots?

 

[otto]

How would this kid know what jail was like? I'm sure that there are many homeless or repeat criminals who would prefer to be in jail, but this boy had a comfortable home, why would he prefer to go to jail? Unless he just wanted to be notorious, which is possible.
I can't imagine wanting to be in jail. But county jail is a picnic compared to what actual prison is like. He will be in general pop. so he is going to be a target for all the tough guys in there, and will end up gang-raped and maybe eventually, some dude's "wife" if he's lucky.

Perhaps he thought of life in some kind of warped video frame, and thought it was something he'd like to try before he died.

 

[Confusion]

How would this kid know what jail was like? I'm sure that there are many homeless or repeat criminals who would prefer to be in jail, but this boy had a comfortable home, why would he prefer to go to jail? Unless he just wanted to be notorious, which is possible.
I can't imagine wanting to be in jail. But county jail is a picnic compared to what actual prison is like. He will be in general pop. so he is going to be a target for all the tough guys in there, and will end up gang-raped and maybe eventually, some dude's "wife" if he's lucky.

Even if he doesn't end up in general population, there are a lot of guys locked up who are in there for doing unthinkable things to young men AS's age. That, in addition to having what people have described as a girl's voice could really mess him up. I believe he'll spend the rest of his life in prison, but I won't be at all surprised if it ends up being a shorter sentence than those sentenced to death. He's probably going to have to make some major changes or he'll be lucky to last 5 years. MOO

 

[Amster]

Guys, stay off the dark side of the internet. Please.

If you go there, more than once (sometimes once is enough), regardless of your intentions, the Feds will latch onto you and try to see if you are looking at kiddie , murder films, and so forth. If you are selling, receiving, making and distributing. Just don't go.

If Sigg was there and any is to be found the Feds involved will have it. They really do NOT need us to do it. Nor do they need us to get charges, go to jail, go to Court, go back to jail, and forever be a registered sex offender.

Just say no. Lol.

DON'T POST DARK SIDE LINKS!!!!

Thank you!!! I'll be more comfortable when this thread ends and the links are left behind....

 

[QueenD]

Sources told the CALL7 Investigators that police would have eventually been led to Sigg, because he was one of 500 people who voluntarily submitted their DNA to investigators.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-murder-austin-sigg-appears-in-court-thursday

Huh??
BBM

Wow did he want to be caught?

 

[Foxfire]

Someone (sorry I don't remember the name) posted a photograph of a graffiti cross on one of those old buildings. It is shaped the same way as the cross that was found. Makes me wonder if he visited those buildings in the past and drew that cross there.

ETA: It was writer7 who posted those photos. I don't know how to link a post. It is post 882 in thread 17

callyn, the thought has crossed my mind as to the cross being Austin Reed Sigg's calling card, literally.. This may have been used as a taunting device, imo, rather accidentally left at the crime scene...
Imo, and from the info known, Siggs is very intelligent, charming, calculating, creative, manipulative, deflective, and just plain damn evil..

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_crime[/ame]
A signature crime is a crime which exhibits characteristics idiosyncratic to specific criminals, known as signature aspects, signature behaviours or signature characteristics. Where a modus operandi (MO) concerns the practical components of a crime which can also be unique to one suspect, signature aspects fulfill a psychological need and, unlike the MO, does not often change.

Two examples cited in Crime Classification Manual by John Douglas are a bank robber from Michigan who required tellers to undress during the robbery so he could photograph them, and a rape case where the perpetrator forced the husband to return home and be humiliated by the event. These characteristics move beyond modus operandi, because they fulfill a psychological need rather than a need of practical execution of the crime.[1]

The 1898 Gatton murders also exhibited signature aspects. Following the murders, the bodies were re-arranged so their legs crossed over their bodies with the feet pointing west.[2] Ted Bundy also used a complex series of signature behaviours

 

[otto]

Speaking of Instagram, did everybody see the picture he had of what looked like the recovery site of Jessica's remains that had a vertical funnel like cloud topped by a hand with a pointed silver spear thingy coming out of the thumb?

Has that been mentioned/discussed? I've missed pages here and there.

Do you have a link?

I'd like to see that ... in light of the arrest of the photographer in the other case.

 

[matou]

I'm bumping some info from an old thread. Here is a photo of the graffiti found at the abandoned buildings across from where Jessica's body was found. I think it could match the red cross that was in a photog's link posted by the mod Harmony. I'll try to find that link and photo (or maybe someone else can find it? xo)

Sorry it's so small.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27700&stc=1&d=1351214448

 

[mck16]

Sources told the CALL7 Investigators that police would have eventually been led to Sigg, because he was one of 500 people who voluntarily submitted their DNA to investigators.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-murder-austin-sigg-appears-in-court-thursday

Huh??
BBM

I would like to know what evidence they had to make them so sure the perp was in the neighborhood. Did they take DNA all over the city or just there? What does anyone think? tia

 

[Jules71]

I've always been told that SSRI's are super dangerous for people with mood disorders, it can send them spiraling in manic phases. I have no conclusive evidence and never really looked into it. I also have no idea what an SSRI feels like, just that they are easily dispensed from a GP and often without being assigned a psychotherapist. "Oh you're depressed? Here's Zoloft" Oh your kid has anxiety and isn't participating? Here's Paxil". That's been my take in what I've witnessed. Not saying all GP's are like that of course, but some are and often times I think people are pushed over the edge because it's not what they should be on. JMO.

I believe that some of your statements, especially regarding SSRIs, aren't quite right. Just from the perspective of someone who has studied these things as well as experienced them personally.

What IS super-dangerous is for medicines to be abused or carelessly used. This is not limited to SSRIs by any means.

Maybe Astro was referring to stimulants being dangerous for people with an underlying mood disorder, rather than SSRI's. For example someone with AD/HD can be prescribed a stimulant (Concerta, Ritalin, methylphenidate, etc) not knowing they have an underlying mood disorder (bipolar, etc) and it can make things much much worse. In those cases it is sometimes better to treat the mood disorder first.

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[otto]

<respectfully snipped>

I don't really think getting a GED tells a whole lot about people. MOO

Is it the same as, similar to, a mature student entrance exam?

 

[LotusPawprint]

What about that link someone posted a couple days ago from the MPN website? I guess it was Tuesday night, the night before his arrest was made public. It was the article that listed Jessica as being 12years old. In the article it said that a reader sent the website a tip saying a neighbor of Jessica's had taken a recent interest in religion and I believe they recognized the cross. The MPN website said they verified the info and passed it onto LE/FBI. It was discussed here but then the next day hours later the news broke. The timing seems to match. I wonder if it was legit and if so who the person was who emailed the site?

 

[MidwestMama]

I wasn't judging I dropped out of HS, I have a college education now but I dropped out and had my GED. I wish I had a prom

:what: Oh geez, I don't know how I get myself in these positions!:what:

I didn't think you were judging at all! I was trying to point out that I wasn't judging either.

And I wish you had prom too! Never too late.....? :blowkisses:

 

[onebyone]

Sources told the CALL7 Investigators that police would have eventually been led to Sigg, because he was one of 500 people who voluntarily submitted their DNA to investigators.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-murder-austin-sigg-appears-in-court-thursday

Huh??
BBM

Wow.

He must've been pretty sure that he didn't leave any dna. That seems a narscissist like level of over confidence.

I had to laugh at this part of the article. "Public defenders argued that Sigg should be released on bond, saying he has no criminal history and is a low flight risk." I mean, they had to have known that wasn't going to happen. Hell, it's probably for the best for both sides that he stays locked up tight. :jail:

 

[MidwestMama]

Sources told the CALL7 Investigators that police would have eventually been led to Sigg, because he was one of 500 people who voluntarily submitted their DNA to investigators.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-murder-austin-sigg-appears-in-court-thursday

Huh??
BBM

Wow! Brazen? Bold? or couldn't see a way out of it?

 

[tlcya]

oh, I totally agree! That is why I stated in the original post that I think it is unfair that some employers view those who get GEDs as "quitters". There are lots of reasons other than "just quitting" that people get a GED. Medical issues, relocation, etc. By no means do I feel that one who gets a GED is not bright. It seems clear that AS was bright academically.

Thanks to you and to izzybizzy. I quit HS and immediately took my GED test so that I could work full time and save up to prepare for the birth of my adult son. I do not think i am a quiter and would like to think i am rather bright. The decision was a pragmatic one in support of my decision to have and raise my son. It was the decision of a seventeen year old trying to grow up quickly into a responsible parent and one i have never regretted.

I have dealt with the stereotype that decision has foisted upon me my entire life. Again, thak you. The button was not going to cover it

 

[Jules71]

His back yard. It looks like there's a shed and maybe a trampoline, but I think it belongs to another yard.

It's weird because when I mapped the address reported yesterday, I thought it mapped next door to that.

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[MidwestMama]

Even if he doesn't end up in general population, there are a lot of guys locked up who are in there for doing unthinkable things to young men AS's age. That, in addition to having what people have described as a girl's voice could really mess him up. I believe he'll spend the rest of his life in prison, but I won't be at all surprised if it ends up being a shorter sentence than those sentenced to death. He's probably going to have to make some major changes or he'll be lucky to last 5 years. MOO

They will probably end up putting him in PC (protective custody). He would have a cell of his own and not be allowed in general population for his own safety.

 

[OpenMind4U]

It has been reported that a torso was found in the open space, and that additional body parts were found in the basement of his mother's house. Nothing more is really known, except that a bag or bags were found near a culvert on Leyden Road, near the old mine.

...in addition, it's just been reported on NG show that LE has secured the backyards of other houses (three houses away from AS backyard) and working there, digging the grounds...speculations are that LE is still doesn't know where 'dismembering' happens and some believes 'other' victims could be discovered...I'm not NG fan but today's show was informative, especially the comments from psyhologist who was explaining why AS wasn't enjoy the killing but continue his 'mortal' deeds....:banghead: