CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #4

[OwlMom]

What caught my eye was "parent can pick up kids w/ ID"...

But it doesn't say parents can only pick up kids if they have ID...

Just wondering ... if any Coloradoans (word? ) can clarify this?

TIA

Yes, only if you have ID. I'd imagine also if the secretary or teacher or principal recognizes you as that child's parent or as someone who has been given written permission by the parent to pick up that child. Not many people are coming in the middle of the day to pick up kids, of course.

School paperwork includes a sheet on which parents indicate other adults who have permission to pick up the child from school, and I'd imagine those adults also would just need to show ID. (Not sure 'cause although I did pick up my niece after school at a nearby Jeffco school this week, they weren't checking IDs after school.)

Once school is released, I don't think they'll enforce the ID rule, because they'll divert LE to monitor school release.

 

[MidwestMama]

I have a question for anyone who lives in CO... Are the school doors locked (so you have to ring a bell or something to be buzzed in) during the school day while kids are present? Here in IL we have had that since the 80's. It was brought on by the Laurie Dann situation in Winnetka, IL. It was the first multiple killing in a school that I am aware of.

 

[Nana46]

I am with you. I have no idea what they mean by a skirt or even fancy wheels.

In my day (yes I am old,lol) they were called fender skirts.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

LE is going through stuff found at the house but it's mostly 'trash'. Anybody hear that from a presser earlier today? What does that mean?

Trash, trash?

 

[passionflower]

I can't understand why he is running with her.
He could leave her at a walmart or something.
What is the motive for all of this?
If he has been driving all this time, hopefully there is no time for
raping or hurting her.
Is he delivering her to someone for money?

 

[passionflower]

Sounds to me like someone rode into Colorado and kidnapped her but doesn't live there. He probably knew they'd do a local Amber alert and so crossed the border ASAP.

However, something's a little off here. This guy must be the luckiest abductor in the world to happen to pick a child whose mother worked at night and slept all day, unless he stalked them and picked her for this very reason.

I was thinking the same.....but the car has CO plates???:banghead:

 

[Chewy]

I can't understand why he is running with her.
He could leave her at a walmart or something.
What is the motive for all of this?
If he has been driving all this time, hopefully there is no time for
raping or hurting her.
Is he delivering her to someone for money?

He wouldn't leave her at a Walmart because of the security cameras but he could leave her in the woods or by a country road.

The problem with these types of Amber alerts is that when it blows up this big the perp literally has no choice but to kill the child.

This is what I felt about the Madeline McCaan case, when they went international with the pictures they basically signed her death warrant.

 

[PrayingForMissing]

I have a question for anyone who lives in CO... Are the school doors locked (so you have to ring a bell or something to be buzzed in) during the school day while kids are present? Here in IL we have had that since the 80's. It was brought on by the Laurie Dann situation in Winnetka, IL. It was the first multiple killing in a school that I am aware of.

Can only speak for our school, but no, doors are not locked. There is someone present right near the doors. One school we were in, you had to show your ID and they made a copy of it. The one now, just someone there at a desk near the door, but they dont ask for ID or anything like that.

 

[Foxfire]

I am with you. I have no idea what they mean by a skirt or even fancy wheels.

Photos of fender skirts
http://fenderskirtdepot.com/Buick/

 

[SuziQ]

It definitely makes the backpack thing weirder since both incidents happened Sunday. A part of me thinks the backpack was left at the elementary school that the canines traced the scent back to. I'm definitely leaning towards the idea of someone else finding it and then for whatever reason, it ends up on the curb. Heck, it could have been a parent who though it belonged to one of the kids on that street and they never bothered to check the name, just figuring it would get back to the correct person.

The backpack was found about six miles away. Unless I missed something?

 

[Marilynilpa]

Anyone that admits to the duck & cover drills of the 50s & 60s are aging themselves, LOL.

http://www.google.com/search?q=1960...TJoi-9QSg2oCADQ&ved=0CCAQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=667

Civil defense drills, a regular occurrence throughout the 1950s and 1960s, ... multi-agency mock air raids to elementary school “duck and cover” drills.

Oh, heck, yeah, I remember those. Cold War days. We also practiced them during tornado season.

 

[MidwestMama]

Can only speak for our school, but no, doors are not locked. There is someone present right near the doors. One school we were in, you had to show your ID and they made a copy of it. The one now, just someone there at a desk near the door, but they dont ask for ID or anything like that.

Thank you. I guess after so many years of locked doors here I assumed all schools did that. Laurie Dann definately put IL on alert well before Columbine, etc. Our High School does have one "open" door but you enter a vestibule (small lobby) and speak to someone before they buzz the door into the actual school open.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Sounds to me like someone rode into Colorado and kidnapped her but doesn't live there. He probably knew they'd do a local Amber alert and so crossed the border ASAP.

However, something's a little off here. This guy must be the luckiest abductor in the world to happen to pick a child whose mother worked at night and slept all day, unless he stalked them and picked her for this very reason.

It's also crossed my mind that someone wants to hurt the father due to his other problems and/or the alleged custody situation.

 

[Sleuths4Me]

I have a question for anyone who lives in CO... Are the school doors locked (so you have to ring a bell or something to be buzzed in) during the school day while kids are present? Here in IL we have had that since the 80's. It was brought on by the Laurie Dann situation in Winnetka, IL. It was the first multiple killing in a school that I am aware of.

Some schools but not all the schools...I live about 30mi away and my son's school has locked doors and the front desk has to buzz you in or you ring a bell if no one is at the desk...but really they buzz everyone in without questions...not sure what that helps if you are letting everyone in...guess that way the doors are always locked?

I did call the tip line to make sure they had the info of the police report we filed on 9/28 about my son being approached by a guy in a blue car (but he was the passenger and a female was driving w/ a tween and about a 2yr old girl in the back) He had an unshaven face and asked my son and his friend if they wanted any candy...I posted about it a few threads back...not sure how it would help since we don't have a plate# but wanted to make sure they had the report...just in case any of these cases (Jessica, the suspect in the 2 Arvada cases) are related...you never know.

 

[MsFacetious]

We were working with teams that collect garbage and run landfills on Friday and Saturday.
The garbage from those days has been collected and quarantined. This is nothing but a precautionary measure.

http://kdvr.com/2012/10/08/live-blog-search-continues-for-jessica-ridgeway/

So relieved they are doing this.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Photos of fender skirts
http://fenderskirtdepot.com/Buick/

Will you model one for us please?

 

[18RAO18]

I have a question for anyone who lives in CO... Are the school doors locked (so you have to ring a bell or something to be buzzed in) during the school day while kids are present? Here in IL we have had that since the 80's. It was brought on by the Laurie Dann situation in Winnetka, IL. It was the first multiple killing in a school that I am aware of.

In CO it varies from district to district I think. My daughter's school (located in the south portion of the Denver metro area) is locked at all times. Visitors have to buzz the bell and enter through the main door then sign in. If you aren't recognized by the person at the reception desk you usually have to show ID. If the kids are on the playground a teacher or an aid will man the open door to the school.

 

[MidwestMama]

Some schools but not all the schools...I live about 30mi away and my son's school has locked doors and the front desk has to buzz you in or you ring a bell if no one is at the desk...but really they buzz everyone in without questions...not sure what that helps if you are letting everyone in...guess that way the doors are always locked?

I did call the tip line to make sure they had the info of the police report we filed on 9/28 about my son being approached by a guy in a blue car (but he was the passenger and a female was driving w/ a tween and about a 2yr old girl in the back) He had an unshaven face and asked my son and his friend if they wanted any candy...I posted about it a few threads back...not sure how it would help since we don't have a plate# but wanted to make sure they had the report...just in case any of these cases (Jessica, the suspect in the 2 Arvada cases) are related...you never know.

Thank you. I agree, definately report something like that! Scary! Glad your son is ok.

 

[Seek&Find]

Thank you. I guess after so many years of locked doors here I assumed all schools did that. Laurie Dann definately put IL on alert well before Columbine, etc. Our High School does have one "open" door but you enter a vestibule (small lobby) and speak to someone before they buzz the door into the actual school open.

When my son went to public school, we had to ring a bell and someone buzz us in. South metro Denver.

 

[GrainneDhu]

hahaha can you tell that I am not from an area that has earthquakes? We do have tornadoes however...

Come to Iowa, where we have everything!

Tornadoes, blizzards, floods, the New Madrid earthquake (that made the Mississippi run backwards for 4 days) and the Galveston hurricane of 1900 passed right over the spot I'm sitting on right now.