Found Deceased CO - Joshua Maddux, 18, Woodland Park, 8 May 2008

It makes no sense to rule this an accidental death. Clothes inside the cabin and outside the hearth and bar or table pushed against the fireplace? Why would a person want to crawl down a chimney half naked with no protection for his privates and legs? Another questionable case is that of 14 year old Robert Thompson whose remains were found in a chimney in LA in 2005. Was Joshua inside the cabin with another person(s) prior to being inside of the chimney? JMHO Body of missing Joshua Vernon Maddux found in a chimney on Thunderhead Ranch | Daily Mail Online
 
How awful :( Josh definitely wasn't trying to break in, though - his clothes were found already inside the cabin, so he'd started out already inside the cabin, then gone outside, climbed onto the roof and then climbed down the chimney.

I just don't understand it!!

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere in this thread....but is there any way it was all just a terribly dumb dare gone wrong?

"I dare you to go down the chimney like Santa" (maybe even egging him on to do it naked)

(Or maybe Josh initiated) "Easy, I'll even do it naked!"

He may have ditched some of the additional clothing (especially shoes) in an attempt for less of a chance to be stuck.

I could see if it was other kids his age there barricading the chimney out of panic and completely forgetting to take any of his clothing.
 
I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere in this thread....but is there any way it was all just a terribly dumb dare gone wrong?

"I dare you to go down the chimney like Santa" (maybe even egging him on to do it naked)

(Or maybe Josh initiated) "Easy, I'll even do it naked!"

He may have ditched some of the additional clothing (especially shoes) in an attempt for less of a chance to be stuck.

I could see if it was other kids his age there barricading the chimney out of panic and completely forgetting to take any of his clothing.
In revisiting this case I feel even more sure that it was a dare/prank gone wrong, probably while intoxicated. Maybe they were all partying in the cabin and the friends dared him to go streaking then they locked him out so he tried to get back in by going down the chimney and they blocked the fireplace and left because they honestly believed that eventually he would get down and the barricade would show him down from coming after them (he might have gotten really angry asking the way). Young men sometimes do truly dangerous things in the name of "fun" especially when alcohol is involved.
 
In revisiting this case I feel even more sure that it was a dare/prank gone wrong, probably while intoxicated. Maybe they were all partying in the cabin and the friends dared him to go streaking then they locked him out so he tried to get back in by going down the chimney and they blocked the fireplace and left because they honestly believed that eventually he would get down and the barricade would show him down from coming after them (he might have gotten really angry asking the way). Young men sometimes do truly dangerous things in the name of "fun" especially when alcohol is involved.

Even more so if they are trying to impress a young woman.
 
There is a long post about Josh on a thread on the site beginning with a colour, R. Apparently someone who knew Josh is also not satisfied with the coroners report. I don't think that I can post the link here. Thread is called "people who have known serial killers and it's about 2/3 the way down.

Sorry to be so obscure but I don't want to get in trouble
@badhorsie, if the thread is on WS and the comment discusses Josh, I don’t know why you wouldn’t be allowed to post a link.
 
In revisiting this case I feel even more sure that it was a dare/prank gone wrong, probably while intoxicated. Maybe they were all partying in the cabin and the friends dared him to go streaking then they locked him out so he tried to get back in by going down the chimney and they blocked the fireplace and left because they honestly believed that eventually he would get down and the barricade would show him down from coming after them (he might have gotten really angry asking the way). Young men sometimes do truly dangerous things in the name of "fun" especially when alcohol is involved.
I can agree with this scenario. My only question would be: if the friend(s) locked Josh out, why wouldn't Josh just try to break a window in order to get back in? Unless the friend(s) blocked all the windows too?

Then again, whenever alcohol or even drugs are involved, rational thought usually goes down the drain. If there were multiple friends standing by the windows, Josh could've figured he'd surprise them by coming down the chimney instead. However, when they heard him coming down that way, they blocked it too.

That could also explain why no one has come forward. They'd be afraid to be charged with underage drinking, illegal drug use, and manslaughter.
 
I'm still haunted by this case. It's so bizarre.
 
Its now 2025 and time for an update.

Disappeared in 2008

Body found 7 years later.

Issues with Coroner: Though no broken bones or obvious injuries. Due to no idea which way to go, the coroner decides its an accident. However the clothing inside the cabin and him outside naked makes no sense. When challenged with it, coroner still has no theory because there is no evidence on the body. Lots of coroners push things to accidents and unk- death after 7 years of decomp. happens all the time.
Still he could have been murdered, strangled, or even a drug over dose with friends who hid the body. Would make much more sense then him undressing inside, then climbing the roof and somehow gets stuck naked inside a chimney that is blocked from both ends.
IMO: Coroner did not know how he died, couldn't tell if it was Dehydration, exposure to cold, much less if he was strangled, suffocated, or a drug overdose. Dead end.

Issues with Police: Police did not want to re-open the case if you ask me. It had been 7 years since he went missing. What kind of search they even really do in the beginning? I think they treated it like a run away due to family statements and age. He was so close to home I would think scent dogs could have found him. They say they check the cabin, then how did they miss the smell? Decomp would have started immediately and continued during the search time. Sounds like no one really checked out the cabin, dogs did not go near the cabin, etc. The owner didn't even check in very often though a boy went missing near by. That place would have stank enough for a long time to stick out to people searching.
Besides not finding him. When the coroner 7 years later says its an accident, they washed their hands and did not investigate it as hard as they could have.

Andy Newman (suspect): After he was found friends went back to the issue that he had just started hanging out with Andy and he was a bad guy in a rough crowd. Andy also took off from the area right after Joshua went missing.
Andy told people "he put josh in a hole" after he disappeared before skipping town himself.
Andy looks pretty scary in HIS MANY MUG SHOTS he continues to get to this day (he is free now). He was accused of a stabbing of a disabled person but got off the charges because the witness died.
While in custody he told police he killed a woman and put her in a barrel, police just happened to find a woman in a barrel in this area, but they had convicted someone else of the crime so it looks like Andy got away again if he did it. If Andy killed her, he bragged about it after. Just like he supposedly did with Josh.
Andy keeps getting in trouble with the law and some how he keeps getting out. Theories are that he knows someone powerful or someone with money that is facilitating him being free from crime after crime.
On another site that blogs crimes, a person from the area claims to have Pictures of Andy in that same cabin as if they were those vandals that the owner said break in time to time. There is also apparently a photo of another known kid from Andys gang supposedly in that Cabin on that same day Josh went missing. Theories are that several people, Josh, Andy & other friends of Andy's were all there together and Josh was Bullied or something happened to him. And that multiple people may have put him in the Chimney and place the Metal grate back over the top to either lock him in alive or to hide the body after whatever happened to him.

The thread above takes a turn that it was accident during bets or hazing. No I disagree, if done in all fun they would not block off the chimney in both directions and leave him there to die. I don't think he was playing with other people like that. No I don't believe the kid got naked inside, then crawled down there on his own. I don't care how high they light be that makes no sense. Even if you were so out of you gourd that a bet like this were to take place, your friends aren't going to then put the grate back in place and leave you there to die. It really only makes sense to do that to someone if you want them to die. That's not a joke, its a murder. If there was an accident among friends this wouldn't be a cold case today imo. Someone else hid him there is all that makes sense, and you don't hide a friend and put the grate over it for an accident, that behavior is covering up a crime typically.

The home owner injected himself after the coroner declared accident. Sounds like he and the demolition guys had to pursuade the police of the evidence they did not want to look at themselves. Due to the witnesses of the scene, they had to admit the clothing inside made no sense so they pretended to care enough to take questions from the demo team. The demo team and the home owner swore they just removed the Heavy animal proofing chimney cap and that he could not have climbed in and put it back in place... When you look at the evidence of clothes inside and cap on top of chimney I don't understand how anyone can say someone else didn't put that cover back on after he got in. And one source said he was found "Upside down and mummified" this indicates to me he was dumped in head first not alive" And if he fell in head first and couldn't get out, then how does he put the cover back on top of the chimney.

My theory: Andy knows what happened and there may be more friends that were there, but I would guess Andy and Josh only were there. Andy is exactly the type of person to do these things and he is probably responsible for more crimes than we will ever know. He is a drifter constantly getting in trouble and admits crimes, but somehow gets out. he is free right now and people should be concerned. The police did not search enough when he went missing, and they weren't going to open a case 7 years later that the coroner dismissed so easily. But that kid did not go inside, get naked, then go back outside, climb into a chimney, and then place the cover back on to sit in there until he died from exposure or dehydration. I don't think for 1 minute he was alive in that chimney.
 

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