CO CO - Kayleah Wilson, 12, Greeley, 28 March 2010 - #4

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12yo KAYLEAH HAS NOW BEEN MISSING 39 NIGHTS!
 
  • #222
Highway 34 goes all the way to Chicago. I don't think Greeley is an out of the way town at all, but rather central to the region. The bypass was built, in fact, because of so much truck traffic that didn't need to go through town. The city is a traffic hub, I think. JMO.
 
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Highway 34 goes all the way to Chicago. I don't think Greeley is an out of the way town at all, but rather central to the region. The bypass was built, in fact, because of so much truck traffic that didn't need to go through town. The city is a traffic hub, I think. JMO.

I didn't know Greeley was so big - never heard of it just like never heard of McCleary. My comparison was more between the two girls - have dads in other states and were called run-a-ways. Just looking at how a predator might find young girls who could be classified as run-a-ways once they are abducted. moo

I view run-a-way category as a - perk for the perp!
 
  • #224
I can't help but think that if one case was solved, both would be - even though Lindsey disappeared from Washington and Kayleah from Colorado, they are too close in circumstances (small towns) not to consider they may both be the work of the same perp. moo

If the same perp is involved in the disappearances of Lindsey and Kayleah, then the question we all should ask is does the perp have a work occupation that requires traveling across the country?

Now at the time when Lindsey and Kayleah disappeared, were there any amusement rides or carnivals taking place at shopping center parking lots or open fields near the area where they lived?

Carnival workers travel many miles across the country during the Spring, Summer, and Fall season setting up and taking down amusement rides and concession stands.

That is one kind of occupation that I can think of that involves seasonal work and traveling long distances.

I'm sure that there are other kinds of occupations involving seasonal work in both areas when the girls disappeared.
 
  • #225
One aspect of a possible runaway theory that should be kept in mind is that she may not have done it alone (if she did indeed run away). Granted, a 12 year old wouldn't likely survive long alone before either something bad happened or she returned home (or showed up somewhere else).

However, if she was leading a more mature lifestyle then it is possible that she left with an older teen male who was capable of surviving in the world undetected. It has been suggested that she may have had older boyfriends as well as the possibility of a pregnancy which implies that she was engaged in activities that didn't quite meet the approval of adults around her.

She may simply have taken off with an older boy and is either keeping a low profile because of the illicit nature of their relationship, or they might not even know people are looking for her (teens are not exactly know for keeping up with the news, especially if they left town).
 
  • #226
I just watched the video linked from http://abcnews.go.com/US/domestic-sex-trafficking-increasing-united-states/story?id=10557194, thanks to BeanE, and it made me wonder if this is a possibility, then what questions should be be asking. It's sickening, but more likely than I'd wish to think.

My heart hurts for AW, not knowing. It does seem like the kids are more resilient, so involved in their own worlds the event fades more quickly from their minds. I pray that KW will be found safe, will come to know that she has been loved all along and never forgotten.
 
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If the same perp is involved in the disappearances of Lindsey and Kayleah, then the question we all should ask is does the perp have a work occupation that requires traveling across the country?

Now at the time when Lindsey and Kayleah disappeared, were there any amusement rides or carnivals taking place at shopping center parking lots or open fields near the area where they lived?

Carnival workers travel many miles across the country during the Spring, Summer, and Fall season setting up and taking down amusement rides and concession stands.

That is one kind of occupation that I can think of that involves seasonal work and traveling long distances.

I'm sure that there are other kinds of occupations involving seasonal work in both areas when the girls disappeared.
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Those are good thoughts - frequent moves and travel would be a real plus for a serial child predator. Wonder how a predator would get to know that a child has a dad in another state or a distance away? I don't know what kind of travel would bring a perp close enough to a family or child to find out personal information. I know Lindsey was on a social site - not sure about Kayleah. moo

I'm not saying they are connected but the circumstances are very similiar. moo
 
  • #228
I can see the similarities people are talking about, but I think they may be more connected in the freedoms these girls were allowed to have than a specific perp. Walking these distances, walking them at night alone, etc, myspace accounts, older boyfriends, it all is risky business that sets young girls up as easy prey in general.
 
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- frequent moves and travel would be a real plus for a serial child predator. Wonder how a predator would get to know that a child has a dad in another state or a distance away? I don't know what kind of travel would bring a perp close enough to a family or child to find out personal information. I know Lindsey was on a social site - not sure about Kayleah. moo

I'm not saying they are connected but the circumstances are very similiar. moo

I've thought about this before - A person (predator) could have actually moved here months ago, got a job w/out drawing suspicious attention to themselves. Especially restauraunt and mall jobs, those tend to be seasonal, college and high school help with a high turnaround. Would LE check to see if anyone had quit thier jobs around the time she went missing?

So what if...this person worked in one of the mall stores, area restaurants, Hastings, Library (long shot there) or anywhere Kayleah hung out at regularly, they could have talked to her, gained her trust a little and found out some info about her. It would not be someone she would "hang out" with obviously, but if she saw this person wouldn't feel threatend. Somone on the fringe of her life, that her family didn't know but Kayleah knew. Or even those temp. survey takers at the mall, some of them are adults?

Again..just throwing out what if's...moo as always.
 
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Those are good thoughts - frequent moves and travel would be a real plus for a serial child predator. Wonder how a predator would get to know that a child has a dad in another state or a distance away? I don't know what kind of travel would bring a perp close enough to a family or child to find out personal information. I know Lindsey was on a social site - not sure about Kayleah. moo

I'm not saying they are connected but the circumstances are very similiar. moo


What about an online support group for fathers without custody? I haven't looked, but I would bet that there are forums for people with custody or child support questions. There could also be ways to find info by having access to payroll information or insurance info. If the perp himself could even be a non-custodial parent.

Are there any similarities between the fathers of Lindsay and Kayleah? Types of employment, insurance carriers, online habits, alumni groups?

I'm not implying that the fathers are to blame; it is just another possible way a predator might troll for victims. Also, if this perp has been to prison before, he probably spent some time brainstorming ways to continue his perverted assaults without as much risk of getting caught, like expanding his feild of prey to different states.
 
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What about an online support group for fathers without custody? I haven't looked, but I would bet that there are forums for people with custody or child support questions. There could also be ways to find info by having access to payroll information or insurance info. If the perp himself could even be a non-custodial parent.

Are there any similarities between the fathers of Lindsay and Kayleah? Types of employment, insurance carriers, online habits, alumni groups?

I'm not implying that the fathers are to blame; it is just another possible way a predator might troll for victims. Also, if this perp has been to prison before, he probably spent some time brainstorming ways to continue his perverted assaults without as much risk of getting caught, like expanding his feild of prey to different states.

I never thought of on-line support groups, that's interesting.

The two fathers have nothing in common that I can see:

Lindsey's dad is in the military and recently remarried. Paid child support and seemed to keep in touch with his daughter. Lindsey was declared a runaway - the thinking was that she ran away to see her dad., He finally made a trip to McCleary and put that rumor to rest.

Kayleah's dad lives in California - he has a social site with a picture of his daughter on it. What I remember is that the dad cut off his ponytail and gave it to a cancer fund supplying wigs to women who have lost their hair from chemotherapy. That act alone left me thinking he was one heck of a nice guy!
Kayleah was called a run-a-way because she wanted to be with her dad in California. Dad came to Greeley and put the rumor to rest and also helped search for his daughter, same as Lindsey's dad.

Both girls were called runaways due to their running off to be with dad.

There was NO crime scene, nor a clue left behind in either case. Both girls vanished on familiar walks. I'm not saying they are connected but very, very similar. moo

Guess my point in all this is that when a child is labeled a runaway that takes the spirit out of searching and places suspicious eyes on the family...instead of focusing on the perp, many seem focused on what's wrong with the mom and the life of the child.
And most important is the fact LE and the public are not involved initially as if it were an abduction giving the perp an enormous head start in his abduction. That gives the perp quite an incentive to look for a child who would be considered as a runaway. And a girl with a dad in another state is a perfect example. moo
 
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If the same perp is involved in the disappearances of Lindsey and Kayleah, then the question we all should ask is does the perp have a work occupation that requires traveling across the country?

Now at the time when Lindsey and Kayleah disappeared, were there any amusement rides or carnivals taking place at shopping center parking lots or open fields near the area where they lived?

Carnival workers travel many miles across the country during the Spring, Summer, and Fall season setting up and taking down amusement rides and concession stands.

That is one kind of occupation that I can think of that involves seasonal work and traveling long distances.

I'm sure that there are other kinds of occupations involving seasonal work in both areas when the girls disappeared.

Truckers, they are always on the road....
 
  • #233
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20100507/NEWS/100509768/1051&ParentProfile=1001

Search slated for Saturday


Saying that the family is “hanging in there,” the mother of a missing 12-year-old Greeley girl announced they have organized a search for her Saturday in the Windsor area.

Kayleah Wilson disappeared March 28 when she left her south Greeley home to meet a friend for a birthday party. Despite the most intensive investigation in Greeley history, no sign of the 12-year-old has been found.

Her mother, April Wilson, said Friday a search will be held in Windsor Saturday. Volunteers can report any time between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m. at the MediGrow Shop 1292 Main Street in Windsor, Unit 1. MediGrow is a medical marijuana shop.

Volunteers can check in at the shop and be assigned specific areas to search.
 
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and the FUND website is still active, with 15 members, including Kayleah's mom and dad and grandma. There is an announcement that they are having a Dove chocolate fundaiser. Did anyone get an answer about the money? I do understand that keeping the flyers going and doing searches probably isn't totally free, but what I would REALLY like to know is who is maintaining the financials raised by the site, as the site owner is NOT trustworthy (this is partially just in my opinion, but also a matter of public record!)
 
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Manybooks~ The owner of the website and her past public records have been found. We just can't post the records here since she isn't a media named suspect... There ARE local media persons aware of the connection but haven't ran with the story yet. The last thing that Kayleah needs is more bad publicity in the public eye, but I think it will (and needs to IMO) come out.... OR even better just avoid the whole negative media thing and the owner of the site needs to step down before she hurts where she very well may have a true good intention of helping.

There has GOT to be a professional website designer who would help AW design a professional site for FINDING and not FUNDING Kayleah. Also I am sure that any local bank board would gladly help aid in the donations received and would do it legitimately and keep legal records of money coming in and out. The whole website thing just rubs me the wrong way right now. Media is going to break the story and the connection and unfortunately it has the potential to be another thing that keeps the already leary public from truly seeking and searching for 12 year old Kayleah. Definitely NOT what AW or Kayleah needs right now. :banghead:
 
  • #237
http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20100507/NEWS/100509768/1051&ParentProfile=1001

Search slated for Saturday


Saying that the family is “hanging in there,” the mother of a missing 12-year-old Greeley girl announced they have organized a search for her Saturday in the Windsor area.

Kayleah Wilson disappeared March 28 when she left her south Greeley home to meet a friend for a birthday party. Despite the most intensive investigation in Greeley history, no sign of the 12-year-old has been found.

Her mother, April Wilson, said Friday a search will be held in Windsor Saturday. Volunteers can report any time between 9 a.m. and 6 p.m. at the MediGrow Shop 1292 Main Street in Windsor, Unit 1. MediGrow is a medical marijuana shop.

Volunteers can check in at the shop and be assigned specific areas to search.

BBM.

Aye. Yi. Yi. Not thinking at all that this was the greatest public move either... This isn't going to help matters in the general public eye. Meet at the park? Meet at McDonalds? Sigh. So frustrating.
 
  • #238
Really concerned about how it's going to look meeting at a medical marijuana facility. Regardless of truth or not, it is not going to shed a good light on the family.
 
  • #239
Thank you, Kai. Do I need to delete the references to that from my previous posts? I would never want that to get in the way of the search for Kayleah.
I am just very sad and frustrated that Kayleah's family may be falling victim in another way :( And now this search , stationed from the MMJ facility that is already embroiled in huge controversy?
 
  • #240
BBM.

Aye. Yi. Yi. Not thinking at all that this was the greatest public move either... This isn't going to help matters in the general public eye. Meet at the park? Meet at McDonalds? Sigh. So frustrating.

McDonalds would be good! I feel so sorry for this family, they need help with image control and how to work the media to their advantage. moo
 
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