CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

[bellesnwhistles]

Like this post if you think 1 or more of the solicitees is talking/cooperating.

This has been my theory from the start

 

[KBB87]

"The 4th Judicial District Attorney Dan May said he filed two counts of first-degree murder and three counts of solicitation.

He said two first-degree murder charges were filed under separate theories: deliberation and felony.

“Obviously, there’s only one murder in this case,” May said. “Under Colorado law, we file separate counts under different theories of first-degree murder. We filed under two theories: One is deliberation for murder. And the other is felony murder.”

Fiancée formally charged with murder in case of missing Colorado mom Kelsey Berreth

Well, I was certainly hoping for more than theories at this point.

I’m curious if any legal experts in Colorado can tell us how normal it is for them to file charges for different theories like this. Is it standard procedure, or is it how it sounds - that they do not know exactly what took place?

 

[Marli61]

Is there court documents out there that the media has available that we don't? I have been wondering where the "attempted robbery" thing came from as well. I have read it in some articles, but have not and did not read that in the documents we saw this morning ( I am sceptical of media reports sometimes... lol)

Apologies if this has already been answered, but it was in there under Count 3.

 

[KBB87]

So glad you found this so we can stay on topic w/o staggering off looking for bodies of unknown persons.

He killed five people!

 

[mustloveco]

Walking the dog today.... it is SO COLD OUT . Looking west on Lake street

 

[Deleted member 718]

I posted the live video I found of the court proceedings- I thought the judge had ruled no livestreams or tweeting during court?? I wonder if this news station will be fined and/or banned from further court proceedings in this case??

They allowed two news cameras I think, due to space constrictions. It wasn't live streamed, only allowed to be shown after the hearing. Reporters could have Ipads, etc. It's all good.

 

[Teche]

PhotoJuice News5‏ @PhotoJuiceNews5
Patrick Frazee was just escorted into the Teller County Courthouse. #KelseyBerreth

Ha, no coat for him.

 

[mustloveco]

KB door appeared open??????

 

[tictoc]

Was P’s brother in court? I did not see him. Tia

Obviously, PF has no feelings for his elderly mom. If so, he could not put her thru this. Or anyone in his family. For years to come, they, too, shall be “recognized” for this (alleged) horrific crime.

Not to minimize the B’s grief. To be clear.

MOO

This is exactly what I was thinking when the camera was on her in court.
What has he done, what mess has he made, lives shattered.

 

[mustloveco]

Looking south on Fairview.

 

[mustloveco]

KB alley to town home

 

[Trudie]

What is robbery?
You commit the felony crime of robbery when you knowingly take anything of value directly from another person or in another person's presence by the use of force, threats, or intimidation.

Colorado law recognizes three types of robbery. In increasing order of seriousness they are:

• Robbery - Colorado 18-4-301 C.R.S.;
• Aggravated robbery - Colorado 18-4-302 C.R.S.; and
• Aggravated robbery of controlled substances - Colorado 18-4-303 C.R.S.

The chief difference between these three crimes involves:

• Whether a deadly weapon was used or threatened, and
• Whether the object of the robbery was the theft of any controlled substance(s).

Colorado "robbery" laws (explained by defense lawyers)

 

[susiQ]

Sweet Lord! This guy is/was the most narcissistic person I've ever known of (and my I THOUGHT my ex sister in law WAS)

He's right up there with Dellen Millard in my books.

 

[kkdj]

BREAKING: New details in Patrick Frazee charges released for suspected murder of Kelsey Berreth
COUNT 1 - MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE
On or about November 22, 2018, PATRICK FRAZEE unlawfully, feleniously, after deliberation, and with the intent to cause the death of a person other than himself, caused the death of Kelsey Berreth.

COUNT 2 - SOLICITATION TO COMMIT MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE
Between and including September 1, 2018 and November 1, 2018, PATRICK FRAZEE unlawfully and feloniously commanded, induced, entered, or otherwise attempted to persuade another person to commit the felony of murder in the first degree, with intent to promote or facilitate the commission of that crime and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent.

COUNT 3-MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE
On or about November 22, 2018, PATRICK FRAZEE unlawfully and feloniously, acting alone or with one or more persons, committed or attempted to commit Robbery and, in the course of or in furtherance of that crime, or in the immediate flight therefrom, the death of Kelsey Berreth, a person, other than one of the participants, was cause by anyone.

COUNT 4-SOLICITATION TO COMMIT MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE
Between and including September 1, 2018 and November 1, 2018, PATRICK FRAZEE unlawfully and feloniously commanded, induced, entered, or otherwise attempted to persuade another person to commit the felony of murder in the first degree, with intent to promote or facilitate the commission of that crime and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent.

COUNT 5-SOLICITATION TO COMMIT MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE
Between and including September 1, 2018 and November 1, 2018 PATRICK FRAZEE unlawfully and feloniously commanded, induced, entreated, or otherwise attempted to persuade another person to commit the felony of murder in the first degree, with intent to promote or facilitate the commission of that crime and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent.

Thanks Pommy Mommy. I don't know if it was a pair, a single person, 3 single people (separately) or a group of 3.

 

[The Saint]

Ok, so this is from a reporter? Sorry, it looked like a person in the courtroom had shot with a cell phone.

It was the pool camera whose footage would be used by all news media

 

[girlhasnoname]

So the person he solicitated must have told LE when this started which is Sept. 1, right?

No the DA said basically the Sep 1st date was a broader starting point which would be narrowed down as further evidence is confirmed.

 

[bestill]

I swear the reporters on this case are worse than what's on facebook. They need to get their info correct!

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

New article from KRDO

More charges, 6th Amendment debate: Patrick Frazee's court appearance recap

 

[PommyMommy]

Video of PF in court.

CNN Newsource on Twitter
Patrick Frazee was formally charged on Monday in connection with the death of his fiancée, Kelsey Berreth. Frazee has been charged with a total of five felony counts, including first-degree murder. Berreth's body has not been found. JL-27MO

 

[heartgoesout]

At work. Can someone kindly give me an update on what’s going on? Pleazzz.