CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #19 *ARREST*

[Seattle1]

Was CB seated next to SF in court?

No, Berreth family did not attend today's 31 Jan 2018 hearing.

Kelsey Berreth may have been killed during robbery, Patrick Frazee facing five murder charges | Daily Mail Online

 

[enelram]

But PF is incarcerated. How’s he going to plan a murder of a witness w/o access to communication devices? His visits (if any) are monitored, calls recorded, etc. in this day & age people don’t even know someone’s ph number. Moo

But I'm telling you these things do happen. Just happened in my area within
the last few months. Trial was about to begin and a week or so before, the main
witness got murdered. It was big news here.
Somehow incarcerated prisoners figure out how to plan and communicate
with others on the outside.

 

[Stunned]

He must have also killed the person he hired to kill Kelsey.

Oh my!

 

[Stunned]

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Lance Benzel‏ @lancebenzel 3m3 minutes ago
Consumptive testing means the item will be destroyed in process. Authorities did not disclose nature of evidence. #Frazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Lance Benzel‏ @lancebenzel 2m2 minutes ago
Frazee, jailed w/o bond, appeared in green striped jumpsuit and said nothing. He returns Friday for mtns hearing, and again 1/29 for prelim. @csgazette #Frazee #KelseyBerreth

? Taken of someone without permission?

 

[PommyMommy]

Video of PF being escorted to a patrol car after the hearing

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
We tried once again to give Patrick Frazee a chance to speak on his own behalf. He again chose to remain silent. We’ll have the latest on the #KelseyBerreth investigation tonight on @ABC @ABCWorldNews.

 

[Trudie]

No way she told JB what she did to Caylee

Lol, exactly. Because then he would have had to plea her down, not prove her innocence. I date a criminal defense atty that has represented over 30 murder cases. I’ve discussed this with him. His way might not be the way all attorneys do things, but he tells his client “don’t tell me anything I don’t ask, I’m working with what the DA has.”
In other words, sit down & shut up unless I ASK you. Then, answer truthfully. Of course he doesn’t ask “are you guilty of murder”.

 

[girlhasnoname]

No, Berreth family did not attend today's 31 Jan 2018 hearing.

Kelsey Berreth may have been killed during robbery, Patrick Frazee facing five murder charges | Daily Mail Online

@Seattle1
I'm glad they weren't there. Don't they have another custody hearing Jan 3rd or so? Looks like Momma F is going for custody also.

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

I’ve never been more confused about a case.

That's what you get when you have legalized marijuana at over 10k feet in elevation.

 

[Jupiter05]

But PF is incarcerated. How’s he going to plan a murder of a witness w/o access to communication devices? His visits (if any) are monitored, calls recorded, etc. in this day & age people don’t even know someone’s ph number. Moo

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Trudie]

But I'm telling you these things do happen. Just happened in my area within
the last few months. Trial was about to begin and a week or so before, the main
witness got murdered. It was big news here.
Somehow incarcerated prisoners figure out how to plan and communicate
with others on the outside.

I agree it can happen. Idk the case you’re speaking to. Idk if the incarcerated person had it done or if someone close to him did or if there’s any relationship. Often, family on the outside gets involved w/onthe incarcerated having knowledge.

 

[enelram]

Lol, exactly. Because then he would have had to plea her down, not prove her innocence. I date a criminal defense atty that has represented over 30 murder cases. I’ve discussed this with him. His way might not be the way all attorneys do things, but he tells his client “don’t tell me anything I don’t ask, I’m working with what the DA has.”
In other words, sit down & shut up unless I ASK you. Then, answer truthfully. Of course he doesn’t ask “are you guilty of murder”.

Yes, I've asked atty's similar questions and they don't really
want to know otherwise it makes their job of defending them
more difficult. Plus atty's fill in the blanks often during trial,
and sometimes their stories are believed and sometimes not.

 

[v0x]

KOAA news live-streaming now

Livestream | KOAA.com

 

[Jessthinkin]

Remind me of my dog after he's pooped in the house (which he doesn't do often!!).
WAFB Channel 9

Agree! When my boxer dog used to look like that, I knew she’d done something wrong and I’d have to ‘sleuth’ around the house to see what it was.

 

[Trudie]

? Taken of someone without permission?

DNA, IMO. On something damp. There’s a one time test available & evidently, the object is small enough, it can’t be split & preserved for later. Let’s think on this......

 

[Trudie]

Oh my!

No. Read back. One murder.

 

[riolove77]

@riolove77, if you're still around would you mind responding to these questions? TIA

If the phone was taken from her (or the purse, or both) and then she was killed, it would qualify. The robbery has to happen first only because you have to be aware you’re being robbed. Or else it’s just theft. What makes it robbery is that it’s taken from you or in your presence by force or threat. So I think it’s possible that he or they did that, then killed her. If this were the case, I imagine it would be someone telling them that’s the order it happened in.

As far as the solitication goes: I wouldn’t be surprised if he asked three different people, maybe rodeo folks he knows, and that’s where it comes from. Or it really might have been just three separate attempts. We’ll have to wait to see.

 

[Seattle1]

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
As we did for the Dec. 21 arrest, I’ll be holding a brief Q&A on our @KOAA Facebook page in a few minutes if you missed the press conference or have any other questions. I’ll do my best to answer. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee https://www.facebook.com/KOAA/

9:28 AM - 31 Dec 2018

 

[Mom24]

Wow. Just wow. I just came on and am furiously reading to catch up. What a jaw dropper. My heart goes out to the Berreth family, I wish them comfort at this time.

 

[Warwick7]

I think this will be bone fragment or brain matter

Agreed!

 

[Trudie]

That's what you get when you have legalized marijuana at over 10k feet in elevation.

Well, tysm for this. I just dumped my iced tea all over my couch.