CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #21 *ARREST*

[BRRI]

Dang it....but saw this coming.

WS legal experts - share your thoughts, please! (And other WSers too, of course!)

jmo

Not a lawyer, but agree that it’s bordering on violating his rights. He’s still innocent in terms of the law right now. He needs access to the arrest affidavit, in its entirety, to know why, specifically, he’s being held and charged. Imagine if you were accused of murder right now, and were actually totally innocent. You ask for the details as to why, and are told you aren’t allowed to know all of the details? That’s not right.

 

[Kapua]

Hand to Hand

FedEx

 

[MsBetsy]

I'm hoping she did. I'd like to think he duped the nurse into disposing of the phone and when she realized what had happened, she went to the police.

I hope so too. But I wonder what he could have possibly told her that she would believe. If someone handed me a cell phone and asked me to get rid of it I'd have an awful lot of questions.

 

[v0x]

But reports say she is being investigated for disposing of the phone, not just sending the texts.

I’m saying it’s possible she didn’t send the texts.

 

[Writestuff]

If was mailed to her without notice, and she opened the package, and turned the phone on. That’d be a ping I believe.

Why would he do this knowing the battery may die, the phone may break, she may not have gotten the package and/or opened it. There are too many variables in this scenario.

IMO I think the easiest explanation is the best.

 

[KBB87]

Or maybe she and his mom worked together at one time and that's how they met. Or maybe they met at a rodeo! Only time will tell. I do think it has to be someone he has known for awhile or knows very well. Imo

Maybe she stitched him up after that horse kicked him in the head lol

 

[Trudie]

They still haven’t released her name, but this appears to be playing out a lot like NK in the Watts case.

Rumors that end up being true. It’s not the norm, but we’ve seen it before.

Will men never learn to “move on”, rather than murder?
Idk if P had a live interest or not. But, if he did, it’s the stupidest reason in the world to commit murder, imo. Just like every other case of man murdering woman for a new woman, he ends up womanless, destroying the lives of so many.

 

[GoJacks]

<modsnip - discussing deleted posts> the news breaks the story.

I agree with you, they probably met at a rodeo.

Probably through rodeo or possibly his collie dog business.

<modsnip - sleuthing non-POI>

 

[GordianKnot]

If was mailed to her without notice, and she opened the package, and turned the phone on. That’d be a ping I believe.

Yeah, I'm sure that's one of the balloons she floated to LE when they came knocking at her door.

 

[scdiv]

Or in her bag. She finds the phone when she gets home, turns it on to see who it belongs to, and the texts send.

I just don't think he's that crafty to draft texts, keep them in draft mode, hoping they would send if the phone was randomly found and turned on.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm getting to the point where little to nothing in this case is going to surprise me. I think you were right. He probably mailed the phone - it would take about 3 days to get there with the holiday. He was trying to set up an alibi - my phone is here, hers is there, so SODDI.

Why does it have to have been mailed? Couldn't she have picked up the phone in CO while there over the long weekend?

Speculation.

jmo

 

[Herat]

MG, looks like you are right on the money again.
If it's true that his accomplice is a nurse, I'm especially disgusted.
I wonder how he got the phone to her...

Where was SHE on Thanksgiving Day?

 

[BRRI]

Why would he do this knowing the battery may die, the phone may break, she may not have gotten the package and/or opened it. There are too many variables in this scenario.

IMO I think the easiest explanation is the best.

Yea. She physically transported the phone. Knowingly or not. I have no doubt of that.

He could have put the phone in her bag and left it on though. Then used an app to send the texts from his own phone. It would still ping in Idaho.

 

[MsBetsy]

I'm thinking she was in CO and took the phone back with her. If he shipped it to her somewhere that quickly - the Friday after Thanksgiving, November 23, you would think there would be some kind of tracking, payment made, or involved other people to send/receive. Since Thursday (November 22) was a holiday, it would have to have been overnighted on Friday to get there its recipient on Saturday, for the ping to go off on Sunday, November 25 (and texts sent.) I think he gave it to her in CO, she had it in her physical possession, and took it back to Idaho herself. jmo

No way would he risk sending it to her. I think she was there in Colorado. It was a holiday and she could have been there visiting friends or relatives. That might be part of the reason he chose to do it then. Imo

 

[v0x]

Why would he do this knowing the battery may die, the phone may break, she may not have gotten the package and/or opened it. There are too many variables in this scenario.

IMO I think the easiest explanation is the best.

I’m not saying it’s likely, I’m saying it’s a possibility. If the phone was powered off, it’d certainly retain a charge for days.

 

[zecats]

Sounds as if the media know who she is.

ABC: Woman may have disposed of Kelsey Berreth's cell phone

"ABC News is withholding the woman's name because she has not been publicly identified or charged. The network reports the woman is employed as a nurse."

 

[Trudie]

I just don't think he's that crafty to draft texts, keep them in draft mode, hoping they would send if the phone was randomly found and turned on.

Oh, those texts had to be perfect. He couldn’t risk someone misspelling a crucial word. IMO, either he sent them from ID or his “friend” did so at a time P designated.

“come on, you don’t have to do nothing but push SEND, I’ll call you & tell you when. I did this for us, baby.” FICTION

MOO

Edited for atrocious typing

 

[GoJacks]

Also how did a 32 year old man who lived at home with mommy find himself more than one successful girlfriend? A pilot and an RN??? sigh.

assuming they had a romantic relationship that is.

 

[BRRI]

She bought her townhouse in May, her parents immediately bought it from her - according to property records - either as a gift or KB would make payments to them. He started soliciting in September - four months later.
I don’t know how long those properties last on the market, but I’m betting they sell quickly and even if they didn’t - her home would be easily rented out. She rented one before buying that one.
I’m not saying the relationship had not already ended - I’m just curious as to WHY her mother believed it to be a “loving” relationship?
By all accounts KB was very close to her mother. Did her mother lie for the police?
Did KB lie to her mother?
I’d love to hear the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Her parents didn’t buy it from her. She’s on the title. They are the lender.

 

[zecats]

I am sorry, but please tell me why this woman would willingly take another woman's cell phone, send texts from it to PF and her work, and not know that he had or was doing something to get rid of Kelsey?

I can't think of any way she's not complicit. Who knows what leverage he had with her.