CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #22 *ARREST*

[gitana1]

This has never crossed my mind and made my jaw drop,BUT if it was possible in any case it would be this one!

I'm sure her mother would recognize her. How else would they know t was her? You couldn't see the baby. Unless there was also footage we don't know of with her car arriving and the license clearly viewable.

 

[Kapua]

I'm wondering if some of the co-workers or someone close to her might have reported her to LE. Especially someone who was up to date on missing people- they might have put two and two together when they heard the phone pinged in Idaho, and gave a tip to LE.

Very possibly. Other possibilities are:
- She may have contacted LE once she woke up and realized that she was in very deep doo-doo or
- LE figured out who she was based on PF's phone records.

 

[Trudie]

I am so curious to find out if and when Idaho Nurse learned about Kelsey and Baby K.

If the nurse ever visited the”ranchette”, she knew. There’d be baby items around. Or a real baby. IMO

 

[v0x]

Really? Where? In your state? I have been present & within eyeshot (bc of previous job) of many arrests & I've never seen “those around” detained.
I know my home state does not detain innocent bystanders. If serving an arrest warrant, they would arrest
the person on the warrant. Unless all hell erupted, family or guests wouldn’t be detained. If a spouse or a parent started screaming or otherwise going off (like not wanting to surrender a child), then, yes, they might be detained.
Jmo
Every state has dif’ laws.

It’s very common on live reality LE shows. Maybe that’s where it’s coming from. Do we have an LE expert that can weigh in here?

 

[Trudie]

Very possibly. Other possibilities are:
- She may have contacted LE once she woke up and realized that she was in very deep doo-doo or
- LE figured out who she was based on PF's phone records.

I will check date we first heard of Idaho connection, see how it compares to date public first heard of KB missing.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Kelsey's aunt was the only one I believe we had but I don't think she's posted in a while.

They have a lot on their plate right now. They need time.

 

[GordianKnot]

I don’t think she is the one that killed KB and I don’t think she knows where the body is, I could be wrong but I’m sticking to PF doing the killing and disposal.

I think maybe he tried to solicit her and her “nurse skills” at one point maybe, but I think she turned him down and he maybe talked her into taking the phone for that part. Purely IMO. Will be very interesting to see if PF protects her now that she has talked or just how much blame he puts on her.

Well, I'm no clairvoyant, but as we've seen, PF does not appear to be tremendously inclined to protect the females in his life. Don't think he'll be offering himself up to act as a human shield between LE and Nurse Idaho.

Safe to say, Ms. Twin Falls might want to strap on her safety helmet, because she's about to get a swift chuck under the bus. J.M.O.

 

[jaspermac]

I will not dispose of them for you. Just saying.

LOL!!

 

[gngr~snap]

Expect this to be a future episode of...

"See No Evil"

IMO it's all been connected by video- except where her body is.
The episode that aired an hour or so ago, found brain matter after the clean up. That would prove that a person was dead as it should not be outside of a persons head.
Luckily in that case the body was found behind the house.
They also used the dead woman's credit cards after her death.

*** we haven't heard that this happened with KB, but we also haven't heard there was NO activity on her credit cards or bank account either, which is very odd
Moo

 

[Trudie]

From the first views of the Safeway video and everyone questioning the size of the baby in the carrier, the comment KB's mom made about her hair not being "fixed", etc. I wondered about 60 times if it was even KB, or a girl PF solicited to help place KB there to delay things. I still raise an eyebrow because there have been so many crazy Frazee things going on with this case! It doesn't matter now, investigations are getting things done. But I really did ponder that... A lot!

omgosh, I’d hope they established it to be K before releasing a video.

 

[missy1974]

Sorry

no problem! sometimes the thread moves fast and the 'thread' of comments get lost

 

[Lhughessk]

If someone asks me to get rid of a phone, especially on my way to another State, my first response would be "say what?"

Then "why"???

I cannot imagine any explanation that would make any reasonable sense.

The hair on the back of one's neck should be prickling by that point. I don't care how naive, in love, crazy, etc. one might be.

Then, if a few days later, it becomes evident that someone is missing, or worse, my very next action is going to be to call law enforcement and start telling what I may know.

She knew.

Well, yeah. She apparently sent a text to Doss from that phone to explain KB’s future absence. Of course she knew.

 

[MassGuy]

I think w/o a confession, this is one large mess.
It’s not a stretch, by any means, to consider the likelihood that someone’s prints will be orvhave been found in K’s house. Someone’s besides P’s. Someone’s that shouldn’t be there.
A friend just had a beer at my house, if I kill my neighbor, think of the commmotion created if I deposit mybfriend’s beer can at the crime scene? That puts him there.

All speculation & MOO

They’re likely going to find lots of people’s prints and DNA in that house, it’s to be expected.

That happens all the time.

PF would be included in this.

Only one person solicited her murder though.

Only one person apparently asked for someone to help coverup this crime.

This case will likely be solved by witnesses, digital evidence, and forensic evidence proving that she is in fact dead.

I don’t expect that incriminating forensic evidence will be found, that proves that he killed her.

It will be other evidence that nails him.

 

[MyBelle]

I am totally basing my wish that the B's get custody, on bias against the F family. 100%.

The only thing is, based on what I've seen in family law and in these murder cases, I don't think my bias is unwarranted.

I hope the F's lose. I don't think they should raise any more kids when there us another, seemingly stable family who know the baby and are available.

Your bias is based on reality. Something triggered Social Services to step in and ask the Judge to remove the child from the paternal grandmother's care. The Judge agreed it was necessary. Now that she is in the Berreth's care, I don't see the Judge changing course and returning the child to the Frazee home. JMO

 

[The Night Watchman]

She would not be the first nurse to be charged with a crime.
If it was revealed she’s not a nurse, but rather a waitress, would you feel dif’?

I didn't mean to make an issue of her being a nurse, it was just an identifier while being vague. I guess my point was that she obtained an education (professional- whatever that means).
But yes, I would feel slightly different if she was a waitress. If she was a nuclear physicist, I would feel slightly different. If she was a stripper, I would feel slightly different.
I'll stop there, because any explanation I give would make me look like more of an a-hole.

 

[MsBetsy]

I have serious doubts of his having the child with him while he's working on horses. You can't just put her in a car carrier and leave her to sit outside a corral in the sun or wind, or in a stall in a barn for hours on end with next to no supervision. She's not a sack of potatoes. This is a tiny, fragile human. As an infant, she would have needed frequent bottles and diaper changes. Once she was walking, she would have had to learn to stay out of the way. I don't think she's old enough for that. I'm pretty sure SF was keeping her when PF was working. Him dragging K around for the cameras isn't quite the same as taking care of her.

Yes, I assume that's probably why the coworkers wife babysat with her those times. Imo

 

[jaspermac]

She committed a crime.

I think we have to be super careful what we say, not that I am disagreeing with anyone but last night the board got shut down for the night. We can't mention info from other sites, or mention the other sites. Can't say a crime was committed when the person is not a POI etc but can say she is suspected of. Can't say anything about family etc. Not trying to be a busy body, cause I certainly overstep more than my fair share just reminding we will get a time out. LOL.

 

[Kapua]

I will check date we first heard of Idaho connection, see how it compares to date public first heard of KB missing.

Thanks! IF IN was involved in the disposal of the phone and was not aware of the actual crime, there had to be a moment where she discovered, to her horror, that she could be charged as an accessory. I'm not saying that was the case. I do look forward to hearing her testimony. MOO

 

[Trudie]

They’re likely going to find lots of people’s prints and DNA in that house, it’s to be expected.

That happens all the time.

PF would be included in this.

Only one person solicited her murder though.

Only one person apparently asked for someone to help coverup this crime.

This case will likely be solved by witnesses, digital evidence, and forensic evidence proving that she is in fact dead.

I don’t expect that incriminating forensic evidence will be found, that proves that he killed her.

It will be other evidence that nails him.

But, my point is this; is the nurse that reportedly has something to do with K’s phone the ONLY person claiming to be Solicited? If so, she’s not believable, imo.
He will DENY, LIE, DENY more. He ain’t talking, as far as we know. He’s getting his ducks in a row. Now he knows or will know her story.
She could be in some trouble.
If I am in her position, I’m tightening my saddle.

 

[gngr~snap]

i think that it is possible to schedule a text message on android phone and maybe also on iphone. so it is somewhat plausible to me that PF might have left the cellphone in IN car. she drives to ID not knowing it was in car. text message sent via automagic schedule. IN later finds phone in car. PF tells her some story about KB getting new phone and he was supposed to sell it for her. so PF tells IN to sell it or toss it. either LE finds it via the pings being tracked or IN calls LE after whole PF thing gets too deep for her. i'm not so sure LE has much on IN that is chargeable unless PF decides to finger her. of course, all of that is huge speculation except that the scheduling of text which could mean no one sent the text from ID, but that PF set up the schedule then found a way to get it to ID. IN could be an unknowing lacky pawn in the deal. ok, enough of my opinions/imagination.

I can on my S8. Up to a week ahead I believe.
3 days though? My battery would probably die, but if it was plugged into a vehicle, say in the back cargo area hidden in luggage... I (might) not notice. I rarely carry much for a long weekend like Tgvg, so I think I'd see it.
I absolutely would deliver it straight to the police, not even touch it- have them remove it so my prints couldn't be on it!!
Moo