CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #22 *ARREST*

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  • #621
I really don't understand pf if his storyline of she takes off alot was true he should of been yelling for the world to see how awful she was instead he was Curt standoffish arrogant . If he was innocent he'd be making a fuss so would his family but nothing really besides the odd comment. In my opinion I don't think we have heard the worse yet
 
  • #622
It's hard to imagine that IF she powered on the phone and the phone then sent those 2 texts, that she wouldn't have read them out of curiosity. MOO

If I was aware it was my supposed lover's baby mama's phone, I'd be looking through all the photos and reading all the the texts. But that's just me. ;);)
 
  • #623
Wait, what?

Trying to return? Working to determine whether mail or courier? In a murder investigation? In 2019?

Probably just poor journalism. But. Wow.
"Sensitive" is the key word.
From IDAHO?
What the heck?

Moo
 
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  • #625
Jesus, Joseph and Mary! Just send someone up to get the thing already!
That’s what I thought. If it’s that sensitive just send a deputy up there to get it!
 
  • #626
I think she means Tday, as in Turkey Day or Thanksgiving Day, NOT 'today.'

Yes! Tday as in Thanksgiving Day or turkey Day. Sorry.

I have no idea why caps come on & off. Lol new iPad. It has its own mind.
 
  • #627
If I was aware it was my supposed lover's baby mama's phone, I'd be looking through all the photos and reading all the the texts. But that's just me. ;);)
"Curiosity killed the cat"
I learned my lesson long ago. If I don't trust, I don't go digging, I RUN AWAY & I'm done with that person.
Moo
 
  • #628
She would not be the first nurse to be charged with a crime.
If it was revealed she’s not a nurse, but rather a waitress, would you feel dif’?
I've been a nurse for many years and have worked with quite a few who have engaged in illegal activity. Most of the time it's drug diversion or theft, but just a couple months ago a nurse I worked with was arrested for trying to stab her husband and then she tried to run him over with her car. I've known and heard of plenty of doctors too who have committed unthinkable crimes. People in a medical profession are held to higher standards because we are all supposed to be honest and trust worthy...other's lives are literally in our hands, but a person's profession does not always reflect their true character.
 
  • #629
How coincidental the nurse was in CO Tday.
Not for a sec do I believe she didn’t transport the phone knowingly, IF it is proven she actually had possession of the phone.

MOO
I’m so curious about your reference to IN being in CO today.
Just to be clear, no evidence that Idaho Nurse (IN) was in Colorado today. Allegations are she visited Colorado on Thanksgiving day (Tday).
 
  • #630
This sounds like another head scratching case again and stupidity and heartlessness is evident. :(

A couple things I'd like to ask or contribute, sorry if they've been brought up before.

First one is about the charges -

He said two first-degree murder charges were filed under separate theories of how the alleged murder may have taken place.

“Obviously, there’s only one murder in this case,” May said. “Under Colorado law, we file separate counts under different theories of first-degree murder. We filed under two theories: One is deliberation for murder. And the other is felony murder.”

Frazee formally charged in missing Woodland mom case

I looked up 'felony murder' charges, they include - Committing or attempting to commit arson, robbery, burglary, kidnapping, sexual assault. So could KB's death have occurred while PF (and maybe another person) attempting to kidnap the baby and she fought back? Maybe, KB was reluctant to pass her over to PF for an unknown reason. Or, there was an attempt at kidnapping KB and she was killed while struggling to survive her attack?

The second point - Could a syringe have been found at KB's premises with her DNA on it? Farmers always have access to syringes for worming treatments etc. for horses/cattle. Could this have been found hidden somewhere or even carelessly left behind?
 
  • #631
Sputter. Trying to figure out how to get the sensitive evidence from Idaho to Colorado?? Gobsmacked. I hope this is just poor journalism. Maybe Opie could just ride his bike down there and deliver it?
 
  • #632
Most don't need an app.
Just hit the 3 dots in right hand corner and option come up. Select a date and time and that's it. The message is sent as you told it to.
Photo: My Samsung Galaxy S8
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I didn't think my phone could do this so I found an internet tutorial that showed to hit the little plus sign next to the message and a whole bunch of options such as schedule message comes up, so if PF isn't tech savvy there are online instructions.

You guys have taught me so much!
 
  • #633
"Curiosity killed the cat"
I learned my lesson long ago. If I don't trust, I don't go digging, I RUN AWAY & I'm done with that person.
Moo
Good policy!
 
  • #634
Twin Falls Police will send "sensitive" evidence to Colorado in connection to missing woman | East Idaho News
Police in Twin Falls have been trying to return to Colorado evidence of a sensitive nature that was discovered in December, after the FBI asked them to assist in the murder investigation, they said Thursday.

Police would not discuss the evidence further and said they’re working with Colorado investigators to determine whether the items should be sent by mail or courier.

My suggestion would be to get the stuff here STAT. Can’t CO fly a detective to pick the items up? Or ID fly a detective to CO? This is ridiculous, imo.
Wonder how many days it will be for them to figure out the best method of transportation? MOO
Since items is plural, I’m curious!
 
  • #635
I’m so curious about your reference to IN being in CO today.
Not today. Thanksgiving day. I think. Or at least I just saw something about that. Imo
 
  • #636
This sounds like another head scratching case again and stupidity and heartlessness is evident. :(

A couple things I'd like to ask or contribute, sorry if they've been brought up before.

First one is about the charges -

He said two first-degree murder charges were filed under separate theories of how the alleged murder may have taken place.

“Obviously, there’s only one murder in this case,” May said. “Under Colorado law, we file separate counts under different theories of first-degree murder. We filed under two theories: One is deliberation for murder. And the other is felony murder.”

Frazee formally charged in missing Woodland mom case

I looked up 'felony murder' charges, they include - Committing or attempting to commit arson, robbery, burglary, kidnapping, sexual assault. So could KB's death have occurred while PF (and maybe another person) attempting to kidnap the baby and she fought back? Maybe, KB was reluctant to pass her over to PF for an unknown reason. Or, there was an attempt at kidnapping KB and she was killed while struggling to survive her attack?

The second point - Could a syringe have been found at KB's premises with her DNA on it? Farmers always have access to syringes for worming treatments etc. for horses/cattle. Could this have been found hidden somewhere or even carelessly left behind?
They specified robbery...did they not?
 
  • #637
Thanks for posting this article, PomMom!

Holy crap, if the evidence is that sensitive, one would think that CO LE might get approval to either fly or drive out to ID to take physical custody of whatever it is...please, please tell me they aren't really debating the relative merits of shipping FedEx vs USPS.

My goodness. Heck I will volunteer to go get it for them.
 
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You know of cases where a father has been incarcerated for killing the mother, and the children were forced by the courts to go visit him in prison????

I’ll find some links. I do believe Melanie McGuires SIL was required to bring Mel’s boys to Edna Mahon Prison, monthly, after Mel was sentenced to LWOP. Moo
 
  • #640
Or maybe they love the baby? If they don't move on custody now, their not gonna get it back later.

Would anyone just give up a child they have cared for since birth, and love, like some sort of condolence gift?

I don't know enough about the relationship(s) the baby has with PF'S family to chime in with possible motivation re baby, but not seeing the move to keep a child you love as heartless.


I love my grand baby with all my heart. But if my son was arrested for plotting the death of my lovely daughter-in-law, I would be so devastated for her family. And if he had killed her, there is no way that I would block them from taking initial custody of the grandchild.

It would be shameful, and somewhat heartless, in my opinion, given the violence and brutality that my son had wrought upon their family. God Forbid.

Especially if the son carried out the killing so he could have custody. That would make it a heartless act for the killer's family to continue to fight for custody in court. It's like they are affirming his actions.
 
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