CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #27 *ARREST*

[tmar]

I think we all know that LE scan social media sites for info sometimes. What's being said, what's the rumor(s) out there. The detective/agent that's sitting there drinking coffee reading WS - come on! Who's hot on their sleuthing, who's cold?!

All my opinion. lol

When speaking to LE about an unrelated 'break in', I mentioned WS.
The lead Detective, of the particular case I was referring to smiled, and stated we do follow WS.
MOO.

 

[Ccging]

Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI
One of KL’s long-time supporters shares with KMVT’s Kelsey Souto how KL’s rodeo involvement put her into the spot light. KK, now KL, was crowned the 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen.

“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,” said LS, who spent time with KK in the District VI rodeo circuit.
LS says she knew the family well.

“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” LS said. “She's just one in a million. My K, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

Since K’s (alleged) connection to the Berreth case came to light, a number of her friends have reached out to KMVT to say they don't believe she's capable of harm. However, most of the friends are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear of backlash from the community.

(names changed to initials by me)

I’m curious if this person has had dealings with KL/KK lately? Could be poor reporting, but the article seems very “past tense” if that makes sense. Purely IMO but a lot can change in 10 years from when she “was an amazing queen”.

 

[oviedo]

Agree. I do think he loves the baby, as much as his messed up head allows. If you believe reports by friends in MSM, he was with the baby daily, brought her along with him to work, so I’m sure he was close to her.

I almost wonder if he was the one who was primary caretaker of the baby, and then one day KB tells him she’s going to move, her mom would now watch the baby, and she would seek primary custody. That would be a hard blow for any parent who is primary caretaker. Mix in a girlfriend who nags about KB, prior discussions of killing KB suddenly are ringing in his head as the anger grows.

This has been my theory for some time - you articulated it nicely.

 

[kkdj]

If John Doe asks me to kill his wife Jane, I am calling Jane and the police. MOO

Unless you're sneaking around with John Doe and you're afraid of what Jayne might do if she found out.
But police.....oh yes! I would definitely go straight to them!

 

[Trudie]

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised that that’s exactly what she’s saying. But whether it rings true or not depends on other factors. Like NKs claims that were disproven once we saw the texts between her and CW.

The fact that she lived so far away and drove home that Saturday or Sunday will be hard for her. She could’ve gone straight to police when she was away from him. I don’t think she willingly did. Something led them to her.

I wanna know her arrival time? Just when did she get to CO? IMO, her time cards are gonna come in handy.........
As far as the lengthy drive, I’m assuming it bothers her none. Further assuming she’s traveled longer stretches hauling horses. Jmo

 

[Hatfield]

Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI
One of KL’s long-time supporters shares with KMVT’s Kelsey Souto how KL’s rodeo involvement put her into the spot light. KK, now KL, was crowned the 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen.

“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,” said LS, who spent time with KK in the District VI rodeo circuit.
LS says she knew the family well.

“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” LS said. “She's just one in a million. My K, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

Since K’s (alleged) connection to the Berreth case came to light, a number of her friends have reached out to KMVT to say they don't believe she's capable of harm. However, most of the friends are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear of backlash from the community.

(names changed to initials by me)

JMO
If I had a nickel for every friend or relative that said good things about a person that was ultimately convicted of a crime, I would be rich by now.

This means Nothing, Nada, to me. Many people are good until they are not.

Character witnesses only know what they know.

She may be totally innocent in this case but then again she may not be. Nuff said.

 

[tmar]

If this MSM news is true, then KK had knowledge of PF’s intent to murder KB

So she cannot possibly claim any innocence in carrying the phone to Gooding ID, and she must have been complicit in sending the texts to Doss and PF. And she may have very well participated in the cleanup / disposal.

As she has not been arrested, AFAWK, then I would assume she is fully cooperative with LE and in some sort of protective custody. LE made very clear in their arraignment of PF that he had the potential to “cause harm” to others.

I assume this means there is evidence that PF has also threatened KK.

As finding KB’s body is paramount at this time, I have to assume the LE silence is all about working with KK

I agree with your thoughts.
Could this 'extensive ' working together, provide KK with immunity, and she not be charged, if she was only involved in phone saga?
MOO.

 

[dkryder]

I think you answered your own question, "with all the somewhat emotional baggage" he had to "import" from a 1000 miles away.

i don't know. in my life the ladies men, as in the ones that like to play the field, do not want a women that might turn out to be excessively clingy. a woman willing to make a big move would raise some red flags. so, if PF had to bring KB to CO then i don't see him as being a ladies man. more like a homeboy that finally found a woman willing to be with him and did not want to lose that.

 

[Tricia]

Ok, I edited the name out, but can I leave the question I had about him?

NO WE CANNOT SLEUTH THE FAMILY.

 

[Myvice]

I wanna know her arrival time? Just when did she get to CO? IMO, her time cards are gonna come in handy.........
As far as the lengthy drive, I’m assuming it bothers her none. Further assuming she’s traveled longer stretches hauling horses. Jmo

I think it will be very interesting to see what her phone activity was on the way to Colorado as compared to on her way home.

 

[tmar]

I certainly want to know more about KK's romantic relationship with PF. So far we've only heard that two of her co-workers were told there was involvement. Have we heard from anyone besides KK's friends?

Parents of Kelsey Berreth file wrongful death suit against 'killer fiance' Patrick Frazee | Daily Mail Online

As we know PF produces different stories to different people, (he lies) he probably will not implicate himself about his close relationship (if any) with KK.
Possibly KK's friends' accounts are all that we will hear about their relationship.
MOO.

 

[oviedo]

Her social media accounts have been scrubbed so any recent photos are scrubbed as well. This all happened right before her name was put out there.

very early on maybe thread 2 or 3, a sleuther surmised there would be a woman involved and further guessed it was the woman who liked all of PF social media posts. This was before he scrubbed his - I sure wish that sleuther would pop in and let us know if he/she was right. I thought it was Massguy but it was not. I will try to find the post.

 

[Lhughessk]

I will be surprised if this turns out to be PF soliciting KK and KK accepting and performing the deed.

Women don’t often murder other women.
Add in the fact that this would be a young mom killing another young mom - I would think that would happen even more rarely.

It just doesn’t add up, IMHO. The facts in this case are going to lead down a different path. What that path is, I don’t know.

 

[Ccging]

very early on maybe thread 2 or 3, a sleuther surmised there would be a woman involved and further guessed it was the woman who liked all of PF social media posts. This was before he scrubbed his - I sure wish that sleuther would pop in and let us know if he/she was right. I thought it was Massguy but it was not. I will try to find the post.

There were a few of us who thought this, but I don’t know if we were thinking of the same woman, I thought it was another of his female friends. KL/KK was not the one on my radar.

 

[v0x]

Delete - duplicate

 

[tmar]

Idk. I’m of the opinion KK wanted KB gone. IMO, a cowgirl would be very pissed if her cowboy impregnated a new woman.
Imo, a woman that MIGHT be struggling with weight issues MIGHT be very jealous of a petite, stunning girl.....

I wouldn't think any person, without a criminal background, would consider being involved in the death of another, UNLESS there were high stakes involved to benefit them.
The importance of these benefits to the person being involved may vary considerably, due to the situation at present.
It could be made easier by person A stating I will do 'such and such' and all you (person B) have to do is help later.
So both benefit, helping one another.
MOO.
Hope my thoughts are understood.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

Hmm...
LE has also been known to shut down social media accounts.
When did IN Facebook disappear?
Did she shut it down in the hopes that LE couldn't retrieve anything from it because she closed it?
I'm pretty sure they can still access all of the history from Facebook-
Maybe that's how they knew about the solicitation?
Moo

Her SM disappeared weeks ago.

 

[Nudgee]

Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI
One of KL’s long-time supporters shares with KMVT’s Kelsey Souto how KL’s rodeo involvement put her into the spot light. KK, now KL, was crowned the 2008 Miss Magic Valley Stampede queen.

“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,” said LS, who spent time with KK in the District VI rodeo circuit.
LS says she knew the family well.

“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” LS said. “She's just one in a million. My K, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

Since K’s (alleged) connection to the Berreth case came to light, a number of her friends have reached out to KMVT to say they don't believe she's capable of harm. However, most of the friends are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear of backlash from the community.

(names changed to initials by me)

I completely understand the position/feelings of those who know her and PF.....just like in the CW case. This kind of horrific news comes swiftly and is hard to process. Time will tell as the cards are laid out on the table....

 

[enelram]

Her SM disappeared weeks ago.

Yes it did, BUT it was at that same time that her name came
out and it was 'rumored' she was out on leave from her job.
This was a week-10 days before msm picked up and reported it.

My hunch is FBI co-ordinated her leave from her job, her sm
erasure and her going into some type of hiding for her protection.
Remember Nancy Grace had a lot of these details reported
on her show on Dec. 26. So a lot was happening behind the
scene.

 

[skycountry]

Obviously it has nothing to do with anyone's weight. I just wanted to know what information you were basing her possibly having a weight problem on, or if you were just throwing it out there.

I was also referring to a post on this thread I read earlier today stating there has been no NEW pictures of KK since any of this information involving her involvement in this case started being reported by MSM. The fact that there was no new pictures is what made me curious as to what you were basing possible weight/body image issues on. I was only asking for clarification and was not trying to get snarky or short with you.

I unfortunately am at work and don't have time to go back and read through the thread right now. I will try and find it and link back
MOO

Obviously it has nothing to do with anyone's weight. I just wanted to know what information you were basing her possibly having a weight problem on, or if you were just throwing it out there.

I was also referring to a post on this thread I read earlier today stating there has been no NEW pictures of KK since any of this information involving her involvement in this case started being reported by MSM. The fact that there was no new pictures is what made me curious as to what you were basing possible weight/body image issues on. I was only asking for clarification and was not trying to get snarky or short with you.

I unfortunately am at work and don't have time to go back and read through the thread right now. I will try and find it and link back
MOO

You have to tip toe around the weight issue comments here, just FYI.