CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[susiQ]

I think the difference is that they said their employee was visibly upset. To me, that differentiates venting/casual conversation and actual threat

Exactly! Whatever KK said to her upset her. It's not just a case of someone saying, "My ex is driving me crazy, I'd like to kill her/him." It was a statement that showed real intent, hence being "visibly upset."

 

[BRRI]

Who is R?

Could someone please provide a link to this R person and the relationship to Kelsey's murder.

Those who were interviewed last night about going to the FBI

 

[Love Never Fails]

MassGuy,
I am responding to your post last night regarding the R’s and their interview. I don’t know how to pull your quote to this thread so to quote the one line, you said “They immediately contacted the FBI, upon putting the pieces together.”

Their employee went to them with information in October. They contacted the FBI when? After KB’s death. That had to be December or later. At the least, they are guilty of not following up and notifying the FBI a murder could be imminent and have their employee interviewed by the FBI. Would this have made the employee angry? Maybe, but KB might be alive today had they followed though.

 

[oviedo]

So an employer has an employee who made a fuss because her friend was harassed on social media? They all knew that KK was in some way involved in plotting a murder and they decided to defend and protect KK?

That's my take - they only came forward because BFF(employee) was getting harassed for defending KK - what I don't understand is they all had knowledge in October of this plot and told no one apparently. JMO

 

[oviedo]

Exactly! Whatever KK said to her upset her. It's not just a case of someone saying, "My ex is driving me crazy, I'd like to kill her/him." It was a statement that showed real intent, hence being "visibly upset."

Yep - If she was visibly upset - why not make a call? I would IMO

 

[BRRI]

So an employer has an employee who made a fuss because her friend was harassed on social media? They all knew that KK was in some way involved in plotting a murder and they decided to defend and protect KK?

Yup pretty much.

 

[Noharg]

Who is R?

Could someone please provide a link to this R person and the relationship to Kelsey's murder.

Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

 

[otto]

That's my take - they only came forward because BFF(employee) was getting harassed for defending KK - what I don't understand is they all had knowledge in October of this plot and told no one apparently. JMO

It all sounds a bit farfetched to me - as in people who want to insert themselves into a murder investigation to get some attention.

What sort of employer gets wrapped up in an employee's social media nonsense?

 

[oviedo]

Idaho couple say they called the FBI after hearing about the 'plot' to kill Kelsey Berreth | Daily Mail Online

always interesting to see the take of the DM IMO

 

[Loulu]

And then I am thinking, how many people during the course of a day might say about their ex "I want to kill him/her". But it does not happen nor do they mean it.
All the R's had was an employee that said what she said but to their knowledge it could have just been bad words in passing and they had no idea who PF or KB even were. To me it is a tough call and I do not blame the R's at all. The knowledge just was not there.
Now if they had talked directly to KK then maybe things would have been different but the employee was a "friend". We know nothing about how she handles herself or situations. She could have over reacted to things and that is why maybe the R's asked her to ask KK to come talk to them. To see if this was a real deal?
They did end up contacting LE once the pieces started to come together and that this DID happen andf at that point it was all they could do.
I see no reason whatsoever to put any blame on them at all.....JMO

On that same train of thought...she was the bff. You know your bff pretty well. We’ve probably all had that “oooo I wanna kill that guy!” conversation with our confidants at some point. That likely wouldn’t have been surprising or upsetting. But KK went to her bff and told her PF asked her TO KILL KB. That’s a whooole nother ball of wax. And it’s something that hopefully would upset you and raise some flags.

 

[Sddaisy25]

Jumping on this morning. I am furious at the R's who actually think they are whistleblowers when in all reality they should have said something months ago before this poor girl was killed. I find myself wondering if there are people plotting my death somewhere.. Kidding (sort of). My goodness what is wrong with people, see something say something. You can't be too careful. This poor girl didn't have to die.

THIS!!! If someone came to me and said their friend had been asked to kill someone my first question would be "why are you telling me and not the police?" And then I would immediately call or go to the nearest police station and report it. A police officer doing a wellness check on Kelsey could have put her on higher alert, and a police officer questioning PF could definitely have spooked him enough to not carry out his plan. There is absolutely NO circumstance in which you don't report to the police that someone has been asked to kill another human being - and to @Hopefullyhelpful who said "...sad reality in our country the domestic violence is often ignored and/or swept under the rug. So for everyone saying this could have been stopped...there is an equal chance that it would have been ignored."...I understand there is a chance that LE would not have done anything/questioned anyone, but Kelsey deserved every chance possible to save her life. It is disgusting to me that there were so many opportunities to save Kelsey by multiple people, and nobody did anything. Sorry, rant over. Lol!

 

[oviedo]

THIS!!! If someone came to me and said their friend had been asked to kill someone my first question would be "why are you telling me and not the police?" And then I would immediately call or go to the nearest police station and report it. A police officer doing a wellness check on Kelsey could have put her on higher alert, and a police officer questioning PF could definitely have spooked him enough to not carry out his plan. There is absolutely NO circumstance in which you don't report to the police that someone has been asked to kill another human being - and to @Hopefullyhelpful who said "...sad reality in our country the domestic violence is often ignored and/or swept under the rug. So for everyone saying this could have been stopped...there is an equal chance that it would have been ignored."...I understand there is a chance that LE would not have done anything/questioned anyone, but Kelsey deserved every chance possible to save her life. It is disgusting to me that there were so many opportunities to save Kelsey by multiple people, and nobody did anything. Sorry, rant over. Lol!

Yes - it is sad all the way around - excellent post!

 

[Elley Mae]

Who is R?

Could someone please provide a link to this R person and the relationship to Kelsey's murder.

Joe and Patty Rockstahl tell KMVT last October one of their employees came to them visibly upset.

Twin Falls couple talks about providing a tip to the FBI on the Kelsey Berreth case

The employee explained her best friend, now identified as Krystal Lee, allegedly told her that "a man had asked her to kill the mother of his child."
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Accident Attorney | Personal Injuries Lawyer | Twin Falls Idaho

 

[Curiousobserver]

Exactly! Whatever KK said to her upset her. It's not just a case of someone saying, "My ex is driving me crazy, I'd like to kill her/him." It was a statement that showed real intent, hence being "visibly upset."

And if you're really considering killing someone you generally don't mention it to one of your friends. This sounded like KK was concerned about the comment and looking for feedback from her friend. I am still not convinced this person would do something so foolish as to bring the phone or a murdered person back toward her home; knowingly leading police right toward her.

Maybe its a simple case where they colluded to kill her but my guess is the story has a few more twists yet.

 

[Elley Mae]

Jmo As lawyers they should have acted. Jmo

 

[Jethro4WS]

It all sounds a bit farfetched to me - as in people who want to insert themselves into a murder investigation to get some attention.

What sort of employer gets wrapped up in an employee's social media nonsense?

We can't sleuth them on the thread but if you google that last name and "Twin Falls" it will be obvious what type of business this is.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

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“She was probably one of the best queens, she was amazing,”

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“A person is gonna be hard pressed to find someone more honest, reliable, kind and very well grounded,” Stutzman said. “She's just one in a million. My Krystal, she's a really wonderful, wonderful person. And I cannot for the life of me, and I can't imagine any of this, what her families going through, her friends.”

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“On the other hand, knowing Krystal the way that I do, and with how level-headed and grounded that she is, I really have a difficult time believing that in just a short period of time she could go from an angel to a monster and that is not Krystal,” Stutzman said. “(She) comes from good solid family.”

Rodeo associate shows support for woman investigated by FBI

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I have felt for days that for reasons I am still not sure of that KK has been protected /sheltered/kept from public blame. Just seems odd to me.

How about Kelsey?how about what her family is going through? Grrrrrrr. Let's make this about what a perfect angel Miss Rodeo Queen is.
It's sickening.
Where is Kelsey phone,purse,body?

 

[susiQ]

It all sounds a bit farfetched to me - as in people who want to insert themselves into a murder investigation to get some attention.

What sort of employer gets wrapped up in an employee's social media nonsense?

Really, eh?? To bad they didn't get involved when they knew there might be a murder about to happen, right? I'm guessing damage control. Spin their fore knowledge into something "positive?" Pathetic. MOO
edit: added fore

 

[Auntie Cipation]

@otto -- respectfully, you are getting it wrong. Go back and watch last night's interview or read last night's posts for details and context.

The Rs did not get involved due to social media fluff. They got involved when they were told of things related to the case, well *before* the murder.

They called the FBI once they realized what their information related to.

The social media harrassment (of their direct employee, not of KK) was why they decided to do the interview now. But the interview is not the substance of their involvement.

 

[marchioness96]

I don’t have any information because I’m not on FB, but I have seen references that the employee was being harassed on FB, which is why I’m asking if anyone knows when the harassment or discussions started on FB. Did they only start once KB was reported missing or murdered?

I believe the harassment they're referring to happened in the last couple of weeks or so, when the BFF's info was leaked in a KB case discussion group.