CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[Hatfield]

deleted by me - not relevant

 

[Noharg]

It all sounds a bit farfetched to me - as in people who want to insert themselves into a murder investigation to get some attention.

What sort of employer gets wrapped up in an employee's social media nonsense?

A murder was at the bottom of the nonsense.

JMO respectfully

 

[gngr~snap]

Wrongful death lawyers at that.

Umm....
Backing out slowly...

Mindblown!
Moo

 

[Sddaisy25]

I think they're talking in retrospect. I mean they didn't even know anything but the name Patrick. I agree they should've called but perhaps they didn't think much of it until they saw CB on tv and put it together. "On no. There was a murder of a gal in CO. Her fiancée is named "Patrick". There is an Idaho connected.!"

They did not need to know anything other than the name Patrick. They had KK's information, and it is LE's job to investigate and learn additional details. They should have called LE in October - and their employee (friend of KK) should have definitely called LE instead of telling her employer. If my friend came to me and said, "my boyfriend just asked me to kill his fiance", there is absolutely NO WAY I am not calling LE immediately. These people made bad decisions that prevented LE from being able to action earlier. While PF is 100% to blame for Kelsey's death, the inaction of these 3 individuals in reprehensible.

 

[Herat]

So the reward info came out the 15th and they went to FBI on the 17th.

OMG

It just gets uglier doesn’t it?

 

[Sabrina1011]

A sad attempt at CYA. IMO.

Probably lots of $$$ in addition to the 25 G

 

[dixiegirl1035]

may be totally unrelated but the $25,000 reward went public ~12/15/18 didn't it?

Source from Woodland Police Department is posted on the 16th that I see.

Edited to add that it was announced on the 15th from this article, I guess the flyer was produced by the police department on the following day.

Woodland Park police: $25,000 reward offered in Kelsey Berreth case

 

[Black eyed pea]

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I just watched again CB's interview and noticed an edit at the 5:40 mark when she is discussing KB and PF's relationship. Wonder what they were discussing about the relationship that lead to that edit. My heart goes out to CB. You can tell in the interview that she is trying so hard to be strong.
On another thought . . . I don't understand why the IN and the BFF didn't RUN IMMEDIATELY to KB and have a sit down talk woman to woman and let her know what PF was plotting??? MOO . . .

 

[susiQ]

Just hit me.

I would like to know if the BFF, when she spoke to the Rs about "Patrick" from CO, mentioned why he wanted the mother of his child killed?

Because I still can not see a solid motive.
But maybe there was one?

Well, we certainly know there must be more to their story, hence, 2 more segments of "revelations."

 

[Sddaisy25]

Within a very short time of the Jayme Closs thread breaking on WS, one other WS sleuther and I had sleuthed the name of her parents/victims, etc. and I am one slooooow one finger typer computer sleuther......... These lawyer R people and their early "unused until too late" info and interviews are unlikable to me....moo

And...they did not even need to sleuth. They had KK's information. LE's job is to investigate and figure out the rest. They deprived LE of the opportunity to get ahead of this and now a little girl is going to grow up without her beautiful mother.

 

[Esma]

We don't know if they were paid the 25,000, or if they even accepted it if offered. Withholding judgment here until we have some facts to be fair.

 

[Ccging]

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Source from Woodland Police Department is posted on the 16th that I see.

So if I read this right they only get the money if the info they provide leads to the location or safe return of KB correct? Meaning the R’s won’t get that reward unless they have info that leads to her body?

 

[Cortne]

The employer had KK’s name as well as Patrick’s?
TIA

 

[susiQ]

Probably lots of $$$ in addition to the 25 G

I just have to ask, do we actually KNOW for CERTAIN that they did not come forward until the reward was offered? I'm not feeling the love in that direction either, but we need to keep the info truthful on all counts.

 

[Esma]

So if I read this right they only get the money if the info they provide leads to the location or safe return of KB correct? Meaning the R’s won’t get that reward unless they have info that leads to her body?

It sounds like it.

 

[BingoBongo]

I don’t know about a duty to report. Without knowing more about the bff it’s hard to say if the R’s felt there was a situation to report until they spoke with KK.

This is part of what confounds me. At what point does a "visibly upset" employee who claims knowledge of an upcoming murder, not become a situation to report? There should be no guessing going on, just report what you've heard, it does no real harm, and it may save someone's life.

At the very least, they should have (maybe they did and we don't know it yet?) asked for P's last name, the potential victims name...and if they couldn't get that out of their employee, then go to local LE with what you they did have IMMEDIATELY.

 

[gitana1]

KK and BFF, that's who

SMDH

ETA- @gitana1 and to the lawyers on this thread, if one or both of them had given money to them and hired them and retained as their lawyers, could the lawyers have spoken out, or would they have been protected by attorney-client privilege?

They can speak out of someone tells an attorney abcrike is about to be committed. But it has to specific.

 

[BingoBongo]

they said that they made it after the public plea on the 10th, but to get the date that they called, I backed up for days from the arrest. And that gave me the 17th. He was arrested on the 21st.

"Within four days of their conversation with the FBI, Patrick Frazee had been arrested."



Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

I believe announcement of the reward was made on the 15th? Hoping that's not why they chose to call. :-(

 

[Trudie]

They did not need to know anything other than the name Patrick. They had KK's information, and it is LE's job to investigate and learn additional details. They should have called LE in October - and their employee (friend of KK) should have definitely called LE instead of telling her employer. If my friend came to me and said, "my boyfriend just asked me to kill his fiance", there is absolutely NO WAY I am not calling LE immediately. These people made bad decisions that prevented LE from being able to action earlier. While PF is 100% to blame for Kelsey's death, the inaction of these 3 individuals in reprehensible.

What can LE do? The “boyfriend” in your situation would lie & deny, if the police did question him, imo.

 

[Deleted member 718]

We don't know if they were paid the 25,000, or if they even accepted it if offered. Withholding judgment here until we have some facts to be fair.

"Woodland Park Police Department said the $25,000 reward is for information that leads to the location or safe return of Berreth."

I don't understand. How would the R's be eligible for the reward? Do posters think the R's know where Kelsey's body is?