CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #29 *ARREST*

[Charlot123]

IMO it’s amazing that these R’s only came forward once KK and MS’s names were blasted on social media and then KK’s name hit MSM. They are attorneys. They know exactly what they are doing. Spread the word so it’s hard to find an unbiased jury. I can’t help but question if they have any further involvement in the whole planning and then cover up.

Also convenient that they play hero in declining any reward money. Hint: they wouldn’t have been offered any money because FBI was already looking into KK. KB hasn’t been found. They are entitled to nothing.

Whew I am heated.

How is it from the ethical standpoint? It is one thing to professionally defend a murderer - everyone has the right for fair trial. Ethically, it is OK. But to blabber on TV after you have heard about the plot, and not from a client, and did nothing... This is not talking with the FBI, national TV provides zero confidentiality. And they are lawyers. I think it is unethical.

 

[Jethro4WS]

No, one of our posters contacted the media outlet and the Report confirmed the dates in the article are correct and given to them by the R's.

Also, with the amount of feedback the station has received it would have been corrected by now, as well.

Maybe, maybe not. It is the weekend. I have reached out to that reporter with a link to and a copy of the Woodland Park Police time line and have explicitly asked if the R's actually said either date of November 26th or 27th and if they had why did she do a voice over instead. If I do not hear back by Monday I will move up the management chain at the station and to Gray TV corporate and CBS News corporate who are named as being exclusive with this story and if they are going to stand behind it.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Pretty sure KB’s family must be absolutely heartbroken to have to watch this on the news, without being spoken to personally prior to it. How heartless.

IMO, the only thing that could possibly be more painful than losing your loved one would have to be knowing how many people could have prevented that loss.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Why do people find it hard to believe that KK would have called her bff (the law office employee) and told her KK was missing on Nov 26th? <modsnip>

1. She used her credit card at Woodland Park Sonic on Thanksgiving weekend.
(The Sonic manager makes interesting comments in Woodland Park Underground FB comments.)

2. She drove Kelsey's stolen phone within 30 minutes of her own home in Idaho and pinged it.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I recall reading this conversation, but I did not see where the news agency has publicly released a statement saying that the dates were confirmed by the Rs. Things reportedly said in email not released by MSM to the public are not fact, they are hearsay.

We are better than this.

MOO.

But then again, I might've missed the MSM link to this information...

You aren’t reading correctly. The MSM is in fact the same outlet that aired the interview. One and the same. Same reporter. But as another poster said, contact the outlet for yourself.

And please don’t insult us with “We are better than this”.

 

[whererthey]

Small town TF /Hansen. I wonder if R 's are related or long association with KK or M. Family histories? Not sleuthing just wondering why theyve put themselves out there.


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[missy1974]

Maybe, maybe not. It is the weekend. I have reached out to that reporter with a link to and a copy of the Woodland Park Police time line and have explicitly asked if the R's actually said either date of November 26th or 27th and if they had why did she do a voice over instead. If I do not hear back by Monday I will move up the management chain at the station and to Gray TV corporate and CBS News corporate who are named as being exclusive with this story and if they are going to stand behind it.

JMO but I doubt the reporter realized before the clip why the 26/27th would have any significance. As @jaspermac has said, the fact that the news story has not been updated or removed with those dates, I think they are standing by it. They have 45 minutes of taped interview, they have only posted maybe 1-2 minutes of the R's speaking.

It doesn't mean the dates are correct and the R's are right either, again JMO

 

[jaspermac]

I recall reading this conversation, but I did not see where the news agency has publicly released a statement saying that the dates were confirmed by the Rs. Things reportedly said in email not released by MSM to the public are not fact, they are hearsay.

We are better than this.

MOO.

But then again, I might've missed the MSM link to this information...

"we are better than this"???

I think kudos to the people who initially questioned the dates without just running off believing them. And then a poster took the initiative to contact the Media outlet who confirmed the dates were correct as per the R's. I think that is being amazingly responsible. Then add to that the Media Outlet is standing by their original article and continues to run with it, that is not hearsay.
On top of that Jethro has also taken the initiative to follow up with the Media outlet and again and double confirm.

We have nothing to be ashamed of going with the dates being given by the R's as accurate. It doesn't mean they didnt' mix up the dates themselves or they didn't and the dates are right and ......

 

[Love Never Fails]

Maybe, maybe not. It is the weekend. I have reached out to that reporter with a link to and a copy of the Woodland Park Police time line and have explicitly asked if the R's actually said either date of November 26th or 27th and if they had why did she do a voice over instead. If I do not hear back by Monday I will move up the management chain at the station and to Gray TV corporate and CBS News corporate who are named as being exclusive with this story and if they are going to stand behind it.

The poster contacted the reporter on a weekday, not the weekend. Sheesh!

 

[NCTeacher]

Why do people find it hard to believe that KK would have called her bff (the law office employee) and told her KK was missing on Nov 26th? <modsnip>

1. She used her credit card at Woodland Park Sonic on Thanksgiving weekend.
(The Sonic manager makes interesting comments in Woodland Park Underground FB comments.)

2. She drove Kelsey's stolen phone within 30 minutes of her own home in Idaho and pinged it.

I don't find this hard to believe at all. I'm just having a difficult time reconciling the R woman saying she saw it on facebook and that prompted her to reach out to her employee. It very well could have been the way you surmise, which would then mean R woman is lying--which is a possibility.

 

[Gardener1850]

Maybe, maybe not. It is the weekend. I have reached out to that reporter with a link to and a copy of the Woodland Park Police time line and have explicitly asked if the R's actually said either date of November 26th or 27th and if they had why did she do a voice over instead. If I do not hear back by Monday I will move up the management chain at the station and to Gray TV corporate and CBS News corporate who are named as being exclusive with this story and if they are going to stand behind it.

Thank you for going the extra mile of contacting the reporter and station, Jethro. I want to believe there has been an error in the dates somehow-- with all the bad reporting in this case thus far, that would be par for the course. But I'm also considering other possibilities for the Nov 26/27 dates given. I have some thoughts on how perhaps the dates could be correct, perhaps the R's are telling the truth as they know it and at the same time no posts about KB being missing were actually made on facebook prior to Dec 2. Will be interesting to see what you get back and if the press makes a retraction/correction.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

With all the commotion that has occurred since the last article was released, I'd think the very vocal Rs would make or publish a statement to correct the dates if incorrect. The fact that they haven't tells me the dates are correct.

 

[jaspermac]

I don't find this hard to believe at all. I'm just having a difficult time reconciling the R woman saying she saw it on facebook and that prompted her to reach out to her employee. It very well could have been the way you surmise, which would then mean R woman is lying--which is a possibility.

There has been alot of speculation that the R's are backfilling a story with dates and information to make it play out better . You have the Nov 26 , which there wouldn't have been facebook postings unless it was stuff among the group that knew PF had done the solicitation. Ie Omg, KK says the ex is missing now. Maybe the R's see this. More likely the employee came in and said something.
Then you have airing 1- we contacted the police after KB's moms press conference because it made us so sad.
Airing 2- we contacted police dec 17 after we found out KK hadn't contacted them as we had asked her too.

So when did you actually contact LE??

Me, I would not have any inconsistencies if i went to the press- whether i was telling the truth or making a few things up. ( which i wouldn't) Or they are so stressed they got the dates wrong re Nov 26.

So I don't know whats going on, we'll see

 

[mcrazingwill]

If we could see what she purchased. Or even the aisle/s she shopped on. I think she bought baby related items to send with PF.

Do you think it was a planned custody switch for the baby to be with PF over the holiday weekend?

 

[NCTeacher]

"we are better than this"???

I think kudos to the people who initially questioned the dates without just running off believing them. And then a poster took the initiative to contact the Media outlet who confirmed the dates were correct as per the R's. I think that is being amazingly responsible. Then add to that the Media Outlet is standing by their original article and continues to run with it.
On top of that Jethro has also taken the initiative to follow up with the Media outlet and again and double confirm.

We have nothing to be ashamed of going with the dates being given by the R's as accurate. It doesn't mean they didnt' mix up the dates themselves or they didn't and the dates are right and ......

Here things are not considered a settled "fact" because a person claims s/he engaged in a digital discussion, during which a representative from a news outlet stated that the reporter confirmed the dates with the Rs. This is why, on websleuths, there is such a huge emphasis on MSM links. Until someone can provide a MSM link stating that the Rs stated those dates, we cannot claim it is a "fact" (as you did) that MSM verified this information.

ETA: I do believe our posters did reach out and someone did respond to them. Right now, however, I believe the person responding to them asked the reporter directly and the reporter is covering her butt. I may be wrong, but that is what I think at this point in time. It'll be interesting to see how the news agency addresses this publicly--which they do need to do.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Small town TF /Hansen. I wonder if R 's are related or long association with KK or M. Family histories? Not sleuthing just wondering why theyve put themselves out there.


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Twin Falls is a small city with a population around 40,000. All the details will leak out. They want to be the first to explain their actions.
(my opinion)

The Rs knew something was wrong on Dec 26th when they were told Kelsey was missing. The Rs didn't call the FBI until Dec 17th. The Rs had been told in October that KK had been solicited to kill Kelsey.

Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

 

[Gardener1850]

Have the R's stated clearly that they knew KB's full name prior to the December 10th presser? I'm asking because they mentioned only knowing Patrick's first name until they saw CB pleading for help finding KB.

 

[girlhasnoname]

So if I understand correctly, this is suggesting the R's had knowledge of KB missing before it was announced in the media? The B Family didn't raise the alarm until Dec 2nd when they had a welfare check done. Supposedly PF and Doss aviation got the infamous text messages saying she was going to be gone for a week on Nov 25th so who would have known she was missing??

Am I getting this right?

 

[missy1974]

Have the R's stated clearly that they knew KB's full name prior to the December 10th presser? I'm asking because they mentioned only knowing Patrick's first name until they saw CB pleading for help finding KB.

The R's have stated nothing clearly. JMO I do not think we have heard that they knew her name.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Have the R's stated clearly that they knew KB's full name prior to the December 10th presser? I'm asking because they mentioned only knowing Patrick's first name until they saw CB pleading for help finding KB.

It's unknown if they knew Kelsey's name. They knew the missing woman was the same woman KK had been solicited to kill.



On November 26th, Michelle came to Patty and said 'that person, she's missing, she's also a pilot.
Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI