CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[Kapua]

I'm also somewhat surprised that a reporter or three hasn't contacted Doss for a comment regarding what their policy is for requesting time off. Or maybe one has and got no response or a "no comment".

 

[Gardener1850]

Haaaaa. Damn, I completely forgot about Colorado’s open records laws!

Answers will come.

Lol. How could you forget? I'm still trying to listen to all the audio released in the Watts case. One of the reasons I jumped on this one is because of how much we were able to find out there. Imagine, we might be able to someday see the first police visit to KB's townhome where we will see the cinnamon rolls on the counter (assuming Woodland Park police wear body cams). We might also get a glimpse in the future of PF's first reactions upon the police contacting him or visiting him. I expect you and/or PommyMommy to have already filled out the CORA paperwork to give websleuths members an advantage in getting this info. I'm sure one of our verified attorneys will help you get that done.

 

[LietKynes]

<modsnip>the admin also posted that LE knows what groceries were purchased at Safeway FWIW so either they found the groceries and receipt or they went through the cash registers/credit or debit cards and they know what was purchased - I also believe they have video of the exit and for some very specific reason they won’t release it IMO - btw the family Facebook page is on page 1 of the media thread - it’s an interesting read

BBM

Did you have a link to it ? Msm threads are allowed... just not specific comments unless referred to by letters.

 

[oviedo]

We don't know that PF is still "talking" to LE now that he has an attorney and has turned over his phone, provided DNA, etc. JMO

If he is it’s with the attorney present

 

[JKathryn]

<modsnip> the admin also posted that LE knows what groceries were purchased at Safeway FWIW so either they found the groceries and receipt or they went through the cash registers/credit or debit cards and they know what was purchased - I also believe they have video of the exit and for some very specific reason they won’t release it IMO - btw the family Facebook page is on page 1 of the media thread - it’s an interesting read

Maybe you'd see her cart was full of items for her "trip", or just the ingredients to the cinnamon rolls. I'm so torn on this case!

 

[GoJacks]

Lol. How could you forget? I'm still trying to listen to all the audio released in the Watts case. One of the reasons I jumped on this one is because of how much we were able to find out there. Imagine, we might be able to someday see the first police visit to KB's townhome where we will see the cinnamon rolls on the counter (assuming Woodland Park police wear body cams). We might also get a glimpse in the future of PF's first reactions upon the police contacting him or visiting him. I expect you and/or PommyMommy to have already filled out the CORA paperwork to give websleuths members an advantage in getting this info. I'm sure one of our verified attorneys will help you get that done.

I believe they wear body cams. ( I was actually thinking the same thing about docu dumps)

MAP: Which law enforcement agencies are wearing body cameras in Colorado
In Colorado Springs, the police department is rolling them out in waves. Fountain, Woodland Park, La Junta and Pueblo are also working to full stock their crews with cameras. (this is from 2017)

 

[Denvergirl]

I took KB's mom's comments about her hair the same way that katydid23 is thinking. And I also thought the comment about KB's hair not being done yet was because she knew her daughter had plans for dinner. I didn't take it as her mom commenting on her state of mind at all. She seemed to be just surprised she wasn't dressed up yet which made me think maybe the dinner was supposed to be in the early afternoon? Most people I know get together around 2 or 3 PM for Thanksgiving dinner. Which could mean by running to the store at 12:30, KB was cutting it close for giving herself enough time to shop and dress and do her hair. I also noted that the reporter seemed to be trying to get her mom to comment on her clothes and how the video might be helpfully to show what she was last seen wearing. I need to watch that again but I got the impression her mom avoided mentioning what she had on in the Safeway video. Perhaps the clothes in the video were found at KB's home? Which would indicate she may have gone home and changed into dressier clothing and did her hair for dinner. JMO.

Someone had noted that they don't think the police description of what she was wearing last match what she is wearing in the video. So perhaps that is correct, that those clothes were found at her home and perhaps PF, last known to see her, described what the police are putting out?

"The Woodland Park Police note Kelsey had last been seen wearing a white shirt, gray sweater, blue pants that may have been jeans, white shoes and had a brown purse. "

 

[iluvmua]

I'm also somewhat surprised that a reporter or three hasn't contacted Doss for a comment regarding what their policy is for requesting time off. Or maybe one has and got no response or a "no comment".

A news station in Colorado Springs tried to get them to speak about Kelsey and they declined.

 

[oviedo]

BBM

Did you have a link to it ? Msm threads are allowed... just not specific comments unless referred to by letters.

It’s on our WS media thread for KB - do you really need a link to our own thread? I’ve been a member for years and don’t recall having to link to our own threads ?

 

[Snowbny445]

A news station in Colorado Springs tried to get them to speak about Kelsey and they declined.

Do you have a link to this?

 

[oviedo]

BBM

Did you have a link to it ? Msm threads are allowed... just not specific comments unless referred to by letters.

Can I screen shot it if you mean you need a link to the admin comment ? I’m just not sure what you need

 

[LietKynes]

So why isn't LE releasing the video of her leaving the Safeway ?
At the very least, it could help to id anyone who might have approached her, or a specific car following her ?
I keep getting chills thinking about what LE knows that they aren't releasing.

Have any of her friends from work or social life said anything publicly ; like, if she felt she was being stalked ?

 

[Seattle1]

I believe I saw references to the text regarding a post thanksgiving visit by KB via someone in the family on the official family Facebook page some days ago- the admin also posted that LE knows what groceries were purchased at Safeway FWIW so either they found the groceries and receipt or they went through the cash registers/credit or debit cards and they know what was purchased - I also believe they have video of the exit and for some very specific reason they won’t release it IMO - btw the family Facebook page is on page 1 of the media thread - it’s an interesting read

Thank you. It would be great if the "family admin" would share this info with MSN. Knowing of any travel plans, the last financial transactions, whether KB exited Safeway with/without child, etc. could all be helpful in finding KB. MOO

 

[LietKynes]

Can I screen shot it if you mean you need a link to the admin comment ? I’m just not sure what you need

No, not the admins' comment... just a link to that page ?
As long as it's either msm. or the sheriff's dept.

 

[iluvmua]

Do you have a link to this?

Let me see if i can find it.

They might have said no comment.

 

[iluvmua]

So why isn't LE releasing the video of her leaving the Safeway ?
At the very least, it could help to id anyone who might have approached her, or a specific car following her ?
I keep getting chills thinking about what LE knows that they aren't releasing.

Have any of her friends from work or social life said anything publicly ; like, if she felt she was being stalked ?

No one from her work

 

[Whiskers16]

It is against TOS to accuse / insinuate the involvement of someone who has not been named a POI or suspect. That includes referencing another case to suggest what has happened here. I just did a ton of cleanup, surely missed some things, and debated closing the thread for the night. If you want to point out something from an article or a press conference that is "interesting", go for it. If LE names a POI or suspect then go to town. Until then dial it back please.

Bumping this warning from Thread 1.

 

[LietKynes]

Thank you. It would be great if the "family admin" would share this info with MSN. Knowing of any travel plans, the last financial transactions, whether KB exited Safeway with/without child, etc. could all be helpful in finding KB. MOO

BBM

Re. the bolded bit : That would be significant. I've a feeling LE knows much more than they're letting on ; and that's depressing. Imo.

 

[Mauig’ma]

That is what I am wondering, If something happened after PF left kelsey's house after picking up the baby or if she did not show up for the planned dinner with PF and child.

Jmo.

Wouldn’t that make PF more worried if she didn’t show up for dinner? And more and more worried every day after? Moo

 

[Snowbny445]

Wouldn’t that make PF more worried if she didn’t show up for dinner? And more and more worried every day after? Moo

Yet he didn't report her missing? Doesnt sound like the actions of a worried fiance to me. MOO