CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[Steelslady]

I don't know about anybody else, but the comment I bolded seems awfully strange to me.
JMO

Mother of missing Colorado mom speaks out on daughter's disappearance

The couple, who do not live together, have a strong bond, said Cheryl Berreth, who lives in Idaho but has been staying in Colorado during the investigation.

"The relationship has been good. They're loving," she said.

She said she doesn't find the speculation circulating helpful to the case.

"Don't try to figure this out – we've got people trying to do that. Just share the photo There's more important things to be done," she said.

Agree, it stood out to me as well. Maybe they think she took off on her own or with someone she trusted, and that she is ok? Maybe that's why the Mom is urging people just to share her photo. Maybe those texts were legitimately from Kelsey. Still, all of this is so odd. I just can't picture her leaving a home with a mortgage, her job, her daughter, her cars like this- she seemed like a responsible young lady. Makes you wonder, did he possibly break the engagement that day or said he needed space, and she was very hurt and took off? It could be something simple as that, she could be feeling hurt and alone out there, if they broke up (just speculating, no facts to back this up). I just can't see her making cinnamon rolls, leaving them on the counter, then vanishing after showing she's a responsible and hard working Mom.

 

[SausagePizza]

JMO

Not many employers would be ok with an employee just texting them that they are going to be gone a full week and not want at least a two way conversation about it.

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That may turn out to be one of the big mistakes that were made in the future as LE and FBI learn more?

 

[Tippy Lynn]

JMO
That text to her employer is one of the reasons I am really concerned for her because of the exact reasons you mention.

Most all employers would want a two way conversation about that since it sounds like it was unexpected and not planned in advance.

Not many employers would be ok with an employee just texting them that they are going to be gone a full week and not want at least a two way conversation about it.

In fact I know many employers if they got a text like that and no further word from the employee ever came and there was not breaking news about the person missing then the employer would probably wait a few days and text them back something like this:
"Dont bother coming back."

I get what you are saying, however, that's how I've been communicating with my boss for the last 7 years regarding short notice absences. I can also request time off using an online shared calendar. I work for a very large healthcare system. I get how that may seem strange, but I think it's more common than we realize. The use of technology and the way we communicate in daily and work life has changed over the years.
jmo

ETA: My husband and I also own a couple businesses and our employees contact him by text for absences as well.

 

[Snowbny445]

No one from her work

I wonder if they have talked to her boss, co workers, current and former students.

It litterally could be anyone she knew

Didnt you just say ^^^^^ in comment #576? Now you're saying no one from her work? Sorry, your posts are kind of contradicting so I'm confused...

 

[Deleted member 155000]

It also says to me that she knew the person she left with and took her purse with her phone inside. MOO

I've been thinking about this.

I get what you are saying, however, that's how I've been communicating with my boss for the last 7 years regarding short notice absences. I can also request time off using an online shared calendar. I work for a very large healthcare system. I get how that may seem strange, but I think it's more common than we realize. The use of technology and the way we communicate in daily and work life has changed over the years.
jmo

Agreed, I don't know a lot about aviation by any stretch, but I've known a couple people (literally 2) who trained for their pilot's licenses. One of them, who just sought his license so he could fly recreationally, worked with a small town airstrip to get his hours. If my memory serves me right, the airfield doesn't have a staff of conventional full-time employees. Rather they have a few pilots who pick up shifts as needed to meet whatever the demand is. In light of this, it seems to me that her work situation might be more flexible than we realize. Like, is she assigned a select number of students who she can schedule as she sees fit? Does she set her own hours--take as much or as little work as she wants? If so, texting that she's not going to take shifts this week might not be as controversial as some think...

Just a thought. I'd quickly throw that out if we learned she worked 9-5 every week.

 

[Steelslady]

I just thought of something that I guess is a bit obvious, but... if she really did text her employer saying she would be taking time off that next week after Thanksgiving, then why wouldn't she have texted (or called, emailed) again for the following week? And this week? It seems to definitely point to something happening to her vs her going off on her own for a needed break. Not that I really believe the latter anyway.

For that matter, why not let Mom or her brother know she was going away for a week? Assuming, of course, that the fiance may have already known she was going, hence why he wasn't worried? Maybe he thought that her family knew, too?

 

[CapitalBat]

I get what you are saying, however, that's how I've been communicating with my boss for the last 7 years regarding short notice absences. I can also request time off using an online shared calendar. I work for a very large healthcare system. I get how that may seem strange, but I think it's more common than we realize. The use of technology and the way we communicate in daily and work life has changed over the years.
jmo

I have had jobs where texting wouldn’t have been unusual, but not when I was teaching. If she had students on her schedule for that week, her absence would be (should be?) especially alarming... Jmo

 

[iluvmua]

I wonder if they have talked to her boss, co workers, current and former students.

It litterally could be anyone she knew

Didnt you just say ^^^^^ in comment #576? Now you're saying no one from her work? Sorry, your posts are kind of contradicting so I'm confused...

No one from her work has given an interview.

The Pueblo Cheiftan said in a December 11th news article that Doss Aviation declined to give any futher info about keksey's personal life except to confirm that she worked there and they also hoped for her safe return.

In another article itbwas mentioned that they declined to elaborate on what the text message said and that they offer their full support of the berreth family.

 

[Snowbny445]

I've been thinking about this.

Agreed, I don't know a lot about aviation by any stretch, but I've known a couple people (literally 2) who trained for their pilot's licenses. One of them, who just sought his license so he could fly recreationally, worked with a small town airstrip to get his hours. If my memory serves me right, the airfield doesn't have a staff of conventional full-time employees. Rather they have a few pilots who pick up shifts as needed to meet whatever the demand is. In light of this, it seems to me that her work situation might be more flexible than we realize. Like, is she assigned a select number of students who she can schedule as she sees fit? Like she may set her own hours. If so, texting that she's not going to take shifts this week might not be as controversial as some think...

Just a thought. I'd quickly throw that out if we learned she worked 9-5 every week.

You'd think a working mom with a house payment and etc., would likely be working regular hours.

 

[Hatfield]

I get what you are saying, however, that's how I've been communicating with my boss for the last 7 years regarding short notice absences. I can also request time off using an online shared calendar. I work for a very large healthcare system. I get how that may seem strange, but I think it's more common than we realize. The use of technology and the way we communicate in daily and work life has changed over the years.
jmo

Good points and we really dont know her work relationship with her employer. She may have had a liberal relationship regarding time off.

Im sure LE by now has talked to the employer to see how unusual the text was and whether they were floored by it or not.

Gosh i wish we had more to go on with this case.

 

[kirkassoc]

<modsnip - removed quoted post and response to it>
the admin also posted that LE knows what groceries were purchased at Safeway FWIW so either they found the groceries and receipt or they went through the cash registers/credit or debit cards and they know what was purchased - I also believe they have video of the exit and for some very specific reason they won’t release it IMO - btw the family Facebook page is on page 1 of the media thread - it’s an interesting read

I always have a problem finding the media thread. Is there a secret to finding it?

 

[Deleted member 155000]

You'd think a working mom with a house payment and etc., would likely be working regular hours.

Yep, if that was her only source of income.

But right now, I'm not sure if we know--for example...

--If her family was wealthy and helped her buy the house
--If she worked a second job
--If the fiancé paid child support and/or underwrote her expenses bc he, at one time, planned to live in the house there with her (maybe once his mom got on her feet after alleged health issues?)

 

[Kapua]

I always have a problem finding the media thread. Is there a secret to finding it?

It's right underneath the list of missing, in smaller letters. Or bookmark this:
Missing! Timeline Forum and Media links

ETA or this:

CO - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Media, Maps and Timelines *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[Hatfield]

I always have a problem finding the media thread. Is there a secret to finding it?

The only secret is its a little hard to find unless you know how to find it. Link below.

CO - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Media, Maps and Timelines *NO DISCUSSION*

What I do is click on tree path in orange at top for MISSING PERSONS DISCUSSION and then look at very top of that and you will see a section for media threads on all cases.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Good points and we really dont know her work relationship with her employer. She may have had a liberal relationship regarding time off.

Im sure LE by now has talked to the employer to see how unusual the text was and whether they were floored by it or not.

Gosh i wish we had more to go on with this case.

I would like to know if her employer tried getting in contact with her. I know if my employer called me I wouldn't ignore the call. I wish we had more information too, but most importantly, I hope KB is found and unharmed.

 

[fred&edna]

I always have a problem finding the media thread. Is there a secret to finding it?

CO - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Media, Maps and Timelines *NO DISCUSSION*


I googled it, lol

 

[miimaa]

Wouldn't he have shared that information tho?

 

[UnicornDragon]

In relation to how people are or are not acting, and if it's appropriate or not...

A lot is riding on this being a so called normal relationship.

We don't know if it was.

We don't know that she's the primary custodian of the baby.

And I find it rare that people don't know others, or who are in the situation, where the non-custodial parent walks off to disappear for days/weeks on end and it's just that's how they do it. Yes, it's frequently the father skipping out, but it doesn't mean it can't be the mother also.

Because that's what it kind of looks like on the outside.

 

[iluvmua]

Do we know what Kelsey's working hours were?

 

[Lady Justice21]

Agree, it stood out to me as well. Maybe they think she took off on her own or with someone she trusted, and that she is ok? Maybe that's why the Mom is urging people just to share her photo. Maybe those texts were legitimately from Kelsey. Still, all of this is so odd. I just can't picture her leaving a home with a mortgage, her job, her daughter, her cars like this- she seemed like a responsible young lady. Makes you wonder, did he possibly break the engagement that day or said he needed space, and she was very hurt and took off? It could be something simple as that, she could be feeling hurt and alone out there, if they broke up (just speculating, no facts to back this up). I just can't see her making cinnamon rolls, leaving them on the counter, then vanishing after showing she's a responsible and hard working Mom.

Along these same lines, if they were no longer together and she was facing the holidays alone, and her close ties out of state, that can be a very vulnerable and sad time.

1. She wasn't reported missing for over a week. Was there no one local to notice?
2. The vigil tonight was organized by strangers. Not friends, not co-workers/students, not future in-laws, or fiance.

The above strikes me as very very sad. I'll skip speculation, and frankly this isn't my top theory, but it's possible she's missing on her own?

ETA all MOO