CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[MsBetsy]

I wonder about that too. Did her employer text or call her to ask what was going on that she was taking a whole week off without notice? I imagine that the employer would have been upset about that.

It would be good to know if texting to announce taking time off is typical where she worked or how vacation time is usually planned. My guess is it would not be sending a text several days before the time taken off and that it would be a request. It should be important evidence. Imo

 

[Esma]

Well then he would tell her mother they wouldn't be worrying about this.

Unless the text said something like just taking time away to think, please don’t tell my family- or something like that

 

[MassGuy]

Hope the PC is just not about a reward.
I know they think they have to do rewards but they almost never help. Her case is already getting media everywhere. More info is needed from LE, jmo, for tips, if they have any.

I know. I want more information, and clarity on misinformation.

Any publicity is good publicity, so even if they don’t have much to offer, it will keep the case in the news.

 

[SausagePizza]

Let's agree seriously: KB at this point is not playing hide and go see seek.

 

[Mom24]

I keep coming back to the one sticking point in this whole thing, why wasn't she reported missing sooner? It doesn't make any sense.

 

[MassGuy]

This article is new and this portion is new to me, at least. Her phone was active after Thanksgiving until there was a ping in Idaho?

"Kelsey and her 1-year-old daughter were seen at a local grocery store about 12:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving, and her phone was active in the days after, but she has not been seen again. A text from her phone to her employer, sent on Nov. 25, said that she would not be coming into work that week."

Before Vanishing on Thanksgiving Without Her Baby, Missing Woman Talked to Her Mom & Seemed 'Fine'

See, this is my problem with the reporting on this case.

Technically, this is correct, as her phone was active in order for those texts to have been sent.

But for all we know, the phone was shut off up until that point.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

I see a positive outcome in this case scenario: what if Kelsey texted PF that she is on a verge of having a mental breakdown and needs time to be alone and asked him not to tell anyone where she is? This would explain why he didn't report her missing. If she had a large amount of cash with her that would also explain why she is not using her credit cards. I wonder if LE checked phone records for KB and PF.

 

[cluciano63]

I know. I want more information, and clarity on misinformation.

Any publicity is good publicity, so even if they don’t have much to offer, it will keep the case in the news.

The boyfriend is keeping this in the news imo.

 

[BuySellTrade]

Perhaps she grabbed her purse, with her phone inside, and left WITH SOMEONE to get a Christmas tree while the cinnamon rolls cooled. ???

That is obviously simple.

 

[scdiv]

This article is new and this portion is new to me, at least. Her phone was active after Thanksgiving until there was a ping in Idaho?

"Kelsey and her 1-year-old daughter were seen at a local grocery store about 12:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving, and her phone was active in the days after, but she has not been seen again. A text from her phone to her employer, sent on Nov. 25, said that she would not be coming into work that week."

Before Vanishing on Thanksgiving Without Her Baby, Missing Woman Talked to Her Mom & Seemed 'Fine'

I feel like that is just awkwardly worded? That yes, it pinged in Idaho on November 25, and texts were sent from it, so it was active after she was last seen on November 22. I don't think that People Magazine has any secret information of the phone being actively used in that time in between. JMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

We don’t know what the text from her phone to his said.

Maybe something similar to the text to the employee, announcing she is going away for a week.

 

[Jennifer17]

I see a positive outcome in this case scenario: what if Kelsey texted PF that she is on a verge of having a mental breakdown and needs time to be alone and asked him not to tell anyone where she is? This would explain why he didn't report her missing. If she had a large amount of cash with her that would also explain why she is not using her credit cards. I wonder if LE checked phone records for KB and PF.

Then he would be playing silly games with LE and her family.

 

[KSinMT]

"Kelsey and her 1-year-old daughter were seen at a local grocery store about 12:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving, and her phone was active in the days after, but she has not been seen again. A text from her phone to her employer, sent on Nov. 25, said that she would not be coming into work that week."

What does active mean exactly? Does it mean it was on and she was communicating with people on the phone between the 22nd and 25th? If the phone was active wouldn't there be more pings they can look at?

 

[distracted]

See, this is my problem with the reporting on this case.

Technically, this is correct, as her phone was active in order for those texts to have been sent.

But for all we know, the phone was shut off up until that point.

I agree with you. That said, "active" infers activity, right?

 

[borndem]

Without her car? Or with someone else? Or?

That she did not take her car is indeed perplexing. If she wanted to leave no trail, maybe she took a cab, paid cash -- totally anonymous "get away." If so, she really wanted some time to herself, but she said, if she said, "one week"
to her employer. (But no make-up? Are there clothes missing?) Damm, this is hard to figure. Maybe she meant a week (if indeed she wrote it), and got into trouble somehow, or disappeared on purpose. Just odd and/or scary.

 

[distracted]

What does active mean exactly? Does it mean it was on and she was communicating with people on the phone between the 22nd and 25th? If the phone was active wouldn't there be more pings they can look at?

That's what I'm wondering. How else would it be active?

 

[MsBetsy]

I feel like that is just awkwardly worded? That yes, it pinged in Idaho on November 25, and texts were sent from it, so it was active after she was last seen on November 22. I don't think that People Magazine has any secret information of the phone being actively used in that time in between. JMO.

We don't even know if the ping is related, at least according to what I read. Imo

 

[The Night Watchman]

So there are still thoughts that Kelsey "walked" away from her life. Leaving with no possessions other than a phone and purse. No cars missing. Buns on the counter. No alarms raised with her mother on the last phone calls. No effort to leave things in order in her absence. No reports from authorities backing up her walking away;. withdrawals, texts etc. The investigators would probably not create a situation where fingers are pointing at innocents when they suspect otherwise. Nationwide awareness of her plight and no sightings- she would have to be intentionally avoiding detention. Possible options for leaving on her accord:

1) Kelsey left and went away with someone that no one knows about, and she is fine. She could potentially stay out of view for a month, as her "unknown" companion could leave the paper trail. Her prior contact with this person would have to have no electronic signature. My guess at number of past cases remotely close to this situation= zero.

2) Kelsey left with a plan to stay of the grid despite reports that she is not a hiker or outdoorsy. Hard to find a place to stay although with someone cooperating, although it is possible. Need a significant amount of cash, solid preparations, and some effort at disguise for cash transactions. My guess at number of past cases remotely close to this situation involving a female= zero.

3) She leaves with someone she met, and the investigators have missed the clues. A month later and no evidence has been uncovered to support this scenario. My guess at number of highly publicized cases with gross negligence by the FBI; and involving a female= zero.

4) Kelsey walks away and commits suicide. This happens obviously more than we would like. Usually there are a least subtle warning signs, none obvious with Kelsey. She seemed a bit isolated in Woodland Park without a lot of acquaintances, so we really don't know her state of mind. If she did this, she would have had to intentionally do it in a way that her body would not easily be found. This would be unusual for a female suicide, basically causing increased and prolonged pain for her family. My guess at number of past cases remotely close to this situation involving a female= maybe zero or one?

Certainly there are more options and they would get more extreme and bizarre. Low probability with what ever is proposed.

Considering all the circumstances around her disappearance, it seems to me that there is no chance Kelsey left on her own accord. I hope for options 1 -3 and anything similar, but to me there only seems to be foul play involved, with the intent for her to never be found. I cannot come up with any other explanation when considering the details surrounding her disappearance.

 

[scdiv]

I agree with you. That said, "active" infers activity, right?

I suspect they are referring to the texts sent from the phone on November 25 as the "activity." I don't think they know any more than we do about the rest of that time period.

 

[zecats]

I am not buying that a woman with TWO cars just decided spur-of-the-moment to voluntarily walk away from her life - on foot. MOO.

Two cars AND access to a plane.