CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #3

[alucardsdream]

She was calmer during her interviews but did you see the press conference? She was barely holding it together. Maybe she's been prescribed something. MOO

I can't even imagine the stress she's under...something like this would be bad enough to deal with in private, but she has to deal with it while being in the public eye.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Is it known whether KB dropped the baby off at the fiancés, he picked the baby up from her house or they met somewhere and exchanged her?

It says PF last saw Kelsey when he picked the baby up later in the afternoon. It doesn't say where but I think we can rule out that Kelsey took her to his home.

 

[MsBetsy]

I signed a form that my family member could ask for me.
Unless consent is given, no access or information is to be released.

Even if you were reported missing?! I thought with court or police matters there was an exception.

 

[MassGuy]

When I watched an interview of Kelsey's mother, I was bothered by her lack of anxiety and sadness. She also seemed to be suppressing smiling. Then the real kicker was telling the public to just share the picture, don't try to figure it out, they have people doing that. What?....I thought she was a little strange. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

She has been pushing hard from the beginning, doing everything in her power to get the word out.

She is a woman of faith, a mother who is trying to stay positive, unwilling to let her mind go in the direction of a horrible possibility.

She may have information that she doesn’t wish to share, as it will hurt the search effort and inhibit her ability to see her grandchild.

She’s both terrified and sad, whether we can see it in her interviews or not.

 

[Gardener1850]

There will be a press conference tomorrow and I think you need to email this list of questions to one of the reporters who will be attending. I can only guess at every one of your questions. MOO

Lol-- I thought you knew everything Pommy!
Can't you ask Alexa how many cinnamon rolls were left?

(On a serious note, I expect the press to be asking more pointed questions such as-- why wasn't PF at the vigil and is he still being cooperative. )

 

[YellowCat11]

Not in this case.

LE: “You know that missing woman who is the subject of national news headlines? Her name is Kelsey Berreth, is she in your facility?”

Hospital: “No.”

There’s no gray area here.

Definitely so as long as LE made first call and it was in best interest of patient.

 

[charminglane]

Even if you were reported missing?! I thought with court or police matters there was an exception.

I wasn't in great shape when I signed it, nor was I expecting to go poof.
Although I would love the old me back, if you find her before I do.

 

[BloodHoundSleuther]

Seriously! This is something that her family has been dancing around and now law enforcement is dancing around. We know PF nor his family are speaking to the media so they aren't going to tell. The more this goes on without the reason for this arrangement, the more it ends up looking like Kelsey had done something to create that situation. Because the way I see it, if PF had done something to cause the arrangement - cheated, abuse, etc - we would have heard about the reasons for what was going on and the media would be out there tarring and feathering him. It is not as if PF doesn't know he is a target.

I have personally watched law enforcement and family dance around what's going on in other cases I have watched this same scenario in at least three cases where the public gets frustrated with even trying to help. Sometimes there is a reason to proceed this way and I'm thinking LE is way ahead of the game!

 

[MsBetsy]

It says PF last saw Kelsey when he picked the baby up later in the afternoon. It doesn't say where but I think we can rule out that Kelsey took her to his home.

Yet, that was what the DM reported. Not that they are reliable but I thought I read somewhere else that she brought the child to his home. Do we know how far apart they lived? Usually drop off and pick up is not at a neutral location unless there are problems. Since they probably don't have a court order I don't know why they would meet somewhere other than the home. Imo

 

[Celtsleuth]

She has been pushing hard from the beginning, doing everything in her power to get the word out.

She is a woman of faith, a mother who is trying to stay positive, unwilling to let her mind go in the direction of a horrible possibility.

She may have information that she doesn’t wish to share, as it will hurt the search effort and inhibit her ability to see her grandchild.

She’s both terrified and sad, whether we can see it in her interviews or not.

Ok...just noticing.. Do you know why mom didn't report her missing sooner? Were mother and daughter close?

 

[Jennifer17]

Definitely so as long as LE made first call and it was in best interest of patient.

And there is no way that it would not be in the best interest of the patient that the whole country is looking for her.

 

[1mtroyal]

I was wondering.....Was it established that she had some family ties to Gooding, Id? Also, surprised mom didn't call earlier. Were they not very close? Ten days seems like a long time not to have mother/daughter contact. Wouldn't mom be suspicious a lot sooner? Did fiance have custody and Kelsey visitation? Thoughts, anyone? This situation is very weird.

There are no ties to Gooding, I think they were close, but did not talk every day, and I have never seen anything in regards to a custody dispute. Somebody used the word "custody" to mean in the care of. If a criminal is arrested, he is said to be in the custody of local law officials, meaning in the control of.

Kelsey:" Patrick, can you watch over our little girl for a little while?"
Patrick:" O.K. Hand her over."
Kelsey: "She is now in your custody".

 

[MassGuy]

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[MsBetsy]

I wasn't in great shape when I signed it, nor was I expecting to go poof.
Although I would love the old me back, if you find her before I do.

But was it a situation where you were reported missing and they would not release the information to LE? Is that what is being implied in this case? I just can't see that happening.

 

[YellowCat11]

Absolutely, they have no obligation to volunteer the information, but if LE has a missing persons report that they are following up on, the hospital will cooperate. (I've never bothered getting verified as an attorney on here because most of the questions are always about criminal law, which I learned in order to pass the bar exam and then promptly forgot. I work in-house for a health system. We try to cooperate with police whenever necessary provided they have the right documentation.)

Same here! (Not the attorney part lol but the health care system part) I work at a private dual diagnosis PHP program as a mental health therapist. We have to be extremely careful especially when there is potential of custody case.

 

[MassGuy]

Ok...just noticing.. Do you know why mom didn't report her missing sooner? Were mother and daughter close?

That’s a good question. Everyone is different just like every relationship is different.

All that matters I suppose, is what was normal for them.

If she wasn’t immediately concerned, I’m sure there was a reason for it.

 

[Gardener1850]

Unless she met fiance IN the store, he took baby and cart and left. She left store empty handed and went home, parked car. POOF!

Did she give him the recipe from her mom in that scenario?

 

[ZsaZsa]

His lawyer will release a statement tomorrow as to why he wasn’t at the vigil.

“I advised him not to attend, as we did not wish to impede the mourning.”

" Mourning"? Strange choice of word...

 

[MassGuy]

" Mourning"? Strange choice of word...

True. I should change that.

 

[Esma]

The mother said the baby is 14 months old. She also said Kelsey moved to CO in 2016. So that puts the baby's birthdate around September or October 2017. 9 months pregnant goes back to Jan 2017. So the relationship was likely still pretty new when she became pregnant if she moved there in 2016, depending on what month. Maybe this is why they live separate. We don't now how long they have been engaged. It was still a relationship developing. It sounds like they were planning to buy a house according to her mother's interview. So it doesn't seem too weird to me that they hadn't rushed right into living together. Didn't she buy her house in May? Maybe they weren't engaged at that point.

 

[alucardsdream]

Same here! (Not the attorney part lol but the health care system part) I work at a private dual diagnosis PHP program as a mental health therapist. We have to be extremely careful especially when there is potential of custody case.

We definitely have to walk a fine line...especially when it comes to mental health patients. I'm sure you've seen some of the worst cases...I could never do your job, I would be too stressed!