CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[jaspermac]

Might want to take down the posts re sleuthing KK. Board violation - you can't sleuth non POI

 

[GordianKnot]

Couple who exposed Patrick Frazee knew he planned to murder Kelsey Berreth weeks before her death | Daily Mail Online

SABBMFAA:
It is also unclear whether the Rockstahls were compensated in any way for their exclusive interviews, which ran on CBS affiliates around the country over the course of three nights.

Berreth's brother meanwhile is also questioning the validity of the couple's story, writing: 'I’m beginning to wonder if these people are full of s*** and just feeding a story for a reward.'

'Wow! Owners of a law firm and they didn’t do a DAMN thing. Heroes?!?! Are you f’n kidding me?!?! They’re monsters!' wrote the victim's brother Clint Berreth on Facebook.

Well, we know where KB's brother stands on the R's publicity stunt.

 

[NoeticSoul]

I think it’s more likely to be the wrong person.

This is why WS info really needs to be verified and not cause potential harm to another person and family

Yes very confusing. First there was a mistake about her living in Canon City and now she has relatives miles away in Florissant which I don't remember reading about in MSM :/ Ugghh

 

[NCTeacher]

We have a little common ground. I think that KB did know KK. IMO, she would have been introduced as a longtime friend of PF's. I still believe that PF planned the whole thing, which he wanted to look like a robbery. He did the murder and KK took the phone and purse. The two of them cleaned it up together. I doubt if KK could move the body by herself. I know everyone is jumping on the R's, but to me, the BFF was hearing the story right from the horse's mouth. She should have called LE if she believed KK.
ETA MOO.

If he wanted it to look like a robbery, then why did he want it to also appear that she was voluntarily in Idaho visiting family, without her vehicle?

 

[Herat]

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If he wanted it to look like a robbery, then why did he want it to also appear that she was voluntarily in Idaho visiting family, without her vehicle?

Because KK either didn’t know the plan or didn;t stick with it.

 

[Artis]

RQ for her now? Lol don’t we already have enough initials for her already? KK, KL, KLK, IN...

And, KKL or KJL or KJK or KJKL, lol. I've got that image of her in the rodeo queen hat so RQ made sense to me.

 

[The Saint]

Have the Rs been back on TV?
Any new info from them?

 

[The Saint]

The information about KK’s family owing a dude ranch has not been reported before. Are you sure this is the correct person? There is a KK who is an RN who lives in Canon City, CO who is not at all related to the KK from Twin Falls ID.

Please made sure your information is correct and not just from sleuthing a completely innocent person and family

How can you sleuth somebody when you don't have a name?
Do you know how many dude ranches are near
Florissant? Many! And I might add, they look very, very fun.

I edited my post to read that KK has family near Florissant. You can edit your quote of mine if you want to.

 

[Trudie]

I think it's good you have your own theories and think for yourself.

As for the animal abuse, the other horse guy also mentioned dogs and the horse trailer being flipped when Frazee lost his temper. That's a lot more than a poke with a rasp. I made note of all that because I'm animal lover and abuse of animals is a massive red flag of a character disorder.

Artis, my car trunk is full of dog food, I give it to strays I find. I have BC & Aussie’s. They will go after a fly. They get killed, often, by stock. They have to learn when to go after stock. They are head strong, unlike non herd dogs.
All of the animals I’ve seen look great, imo.
A person breeding dogs usually isn’t abusive bc he needs his stock to look as good as possible, in order to sell them.
In a rodeo environment, imo, we are most proud of our horses. We’ve traveled, spent money & trained to be able to compete. I’ve never seen a horse look nothing less than amazing at a rodeo. If anyone mistreated their horse, they’d get a butt beatin, I think. There’s a whole lot of drinking goin on at most rodeos.
The trailer flip, idk what happened. Did the horses shift in the trailer, was he dui? I could post thousands of links where stock trailers flip.imo, he had his best horse/s at the rodeo & didn’t intend to kill them. If so, he coulda shot them. Everyone I know at rodeos has a gun or their friend does. Vets are always on site, anticipating injuries & a chance to make money. He could’ve had his horse euthanized. Js. Moo

 

[NCTeacher]

Because KK either didn’t know the plan or didn;t stick with it.

Or a 3rd party set up the robbery scene without realizing that the other two were trying to make it look like an on-the-road, out-of-state abduction?

 

[Artis]

Artist, we do not know why she is in jail. Only speculation, but if, just IF, she’s in a hospital, we have no right to know. Kinda suspicious not one station mentions her, huh? If she’s in a hospital, they won’t. They’d get sued. Think of the ramifications.
For anyone. Not even people in this case.
If I went to hospital with emotional issues, my local news will not report “Trudie Sleuther is in a psych ward.” Omg, what if I was getting ready to starts new job? I’d be fired. Lol. Think of my civil suit.

Now, if news reports: “ police found Trudie Sleuther nude & intoxicated walking on Doe blvd., they apprehended her and she is at Jane Hospital undergoing evaluation”, that’s okay. Because they (LE)drove me, they know where I am.
If I walk to hospital drunk & nude, tell them I’m confused, they can’t call the news to tell them. I have a right to privacy. Once arrested, I don’t. Moo
If I go to my family doctor and tell him “I screwed up, police questioned me, I can’t eat, sleep, only cry, I’m scared, I wanna kill myself, he can’t call the news or LE. He can hospitalize me & try to help me come to terms with my situation. How long might that be? Who knows. I’m coy. I might lie around sucking my thumb, crying, trembling, stare at walls, never utter a word. Well, he’s not going to release me. He would consider me “a danger to herself and/or others”. He sure doesn’t wanna risk releasing me, only to have me kill myself or someone else. That’d be buh bye med license.
Moo

She's not been arrested AFAIK. All I'm saying is that if she chose the psychiatric hospitalization ruse to avoid being questioned or arrested, that wouldn't last long. I doubt she's done that, though, and I'll bet she's been interrogated by local LE and the FBI. She's dead meat if she had anything to do with this.

 

[riolove77]

Hypothetically, KK could have been after PF for years if she never really got over her "first love". What if PF always told KK that he liked her but she was a married woman and had her own life. What if KK decides to get divorced in 2016 to be with PF, so PF had to quickly find a relationship himself to keep KK from stalking him? What if KK decided that the only way to get to PF was removing KB?

We really don't have much evidence that PF was a bad guy. He ran around with a few women but he wasn't married soo how does that make him different than other single men?

I don't know what to believe. There's so little to go on. I sure hope the solicitation is more than KK telling people he wanted her gone. What if KK decided PK saying we can't be together as long as KB is in the picture was a suggestion to remove her from the picture.

I'm praying LE wouldn't act on something like that fearing the baby might be in jeopardy.

There is no way the solicitation charges were lodged based only on KK telling people that PF wanted KB gone. LE needs much more than that.

 

[The Saint]

Anyone who quoted my orginal post that included the
part about dude ranch, please edit "dude ranch" out. Thank you!

 

[GHgal]

Couple who exposed Patrick Frazee knew he planned to murder Kelsey Berreth weeks before her death | Daily Mail Online

SABBMFAA:
It is also unclear whether the Rockstahls were compensated in any way for their exclusive interviews, which ran on CBS affiliates around the country over the course of three nights.

Berreth's brother meanwhile is also questioning the validity of the couple's story, writing: 'I’m beginning to wonder if these people are full of s*** and just feeding a story for a reward.'

'Wow! Owners of a law firm and they didn’t do a DAMN thing. Heroes?!?! Are you f’n kidding me?!?! They’re monsters!' wrote the victim's brother Clint Berreth on Facebook.

Well, we know where KB's brother stands on the R's publicity stunt.

Where can her brother be quoted as saying that?

 

[GordianKnot]

@riolove77, @Mercedes, @gitana1 , as attorneys, what if any case-related info do you think will be made public at PF's prelim hearing on 02/19?

 

[Deleted member 718]

If he wanted it to look like a robbery, then why did he want it to also appear that she was voluntarily in Idaho visiting family, without her vehicle?

I'm not sure but isn't that what her family supposed when they heard about the phone ping in Idaho? I don't remember it coming from PF.

 

[NCTeacher]

CB is the brother? I thought CB was the mom?!

 

[Irmese]

If he wanted it to look like a robbery, then why did he want it to also appear that she was voluntarily in Idaho visiting family, without her vehicle?

I believe he was setting KK up to take the blame. I think he was trying to lead LE to KK. KK doesn't seem to be overly intelligent, judging by her willingness to allow herself to be involved in a murder scheme and by her seeming inability to keep her mouth shut. Could be he figured he would shed himself of both of them at the same time. MOO.

 

[GordianKnot]

Anyone who quoted my orginal post that included the
part about dude ranch, please edit "dude ranch" out. Thank you!

Is "dude" a banned word now? If so, I'm in deep trouble.

 

[Artis]

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