CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[enelram]

M, the bestie, did tell the R’s there was a relationship.

I wonder if KK only told bestie her manure AFTER the fact. Anyone recall when the R's first started hearing about KK? Did M only begin confiding To Mrs. R after
thanksgiving?

I believe it started in Oct. w/ solicitation info from bff.

 

[jaspermac]

Part 3 of the interview being released tonight focuses on the time KK spent with PF in Colorado.

This is info that the BFF wanted the R's to have about KK, otherwise she wouldn't tell them. Unless she literally is again someone who tells everyone her story.

So if I had to guess, I think we will hear some sort of nonsense of how he forced her to go to colorado in some way shape or form. Or maybe they got married over the weekend (LOL- just joking)

I am just interested in seeing what the plan is to protect KK. How are they going to explain away going to Colorado when you are terrified of this guy.

I don't necessarily think it is the R's trying to do it, maybe they are being manipulated and believe the whole thing. We'll see.

 

[Esma]

I am so curious as to why she hasn’t been arrested. Even if she’s lawyered up and not talking, like PF was. Either they don’t have enough to arrest her, or she’s helping LE and will get lesser charges when her arrest time comes is all I can come up with. There’s no doubt she’s involved, but we don’t know the details.

 

[Kapua]

According to the R’s, PF and KK owned horses together. I think cattle dogs are also a connection to the two.

Yesterday, before this little tidbit came out, I suggested that maybe PF and KK had some kind of business association, because it made no sense to me that KK would not cut off all contact with PF after he allegedly suggested that she participate in KB's murder. (Last night on the 48 Hours special, one of the detectives said that you can't put reason to evil, so there's that, too.) So now the R's are saying that PF and KK owned horses together, making this way more than a love triangle. Still, she most certainly could have gone to LE and to KB with the information. MOO

 

[Elley Mae]

I agree but it is a possibility just like all the other ideas on here.
One thing is for sure, we have NO idea.

I have ideas, just don’t have all the facts.

My instincts lead me to, another woman, money<(child support).

For some that is good enough reason.

 

[enelram]

I think you’re right that LE already knows the motives. Wish we had more info!

For a little more on KB's state of mind, check out her personal
Pinterest page under her name. If I read between the lines on
her 'prayer' pinnings, the relationship w/ PF was rocky and
rarely easy. He was controlling towards her, maybe resentful of
her goals and ability to go after them. Seems they had broken
off things several times and I suspect he ran around on her and
claimed he broke up w/ her. I feel for her 'unease' she had
about PF. It's all there for anyone to see.

 

[Elley Mae]

Yesterday, before this little tidbit came out, I suggested that maybe PF and KK had some kind of business association, because it made no sense to me that KK would not cut off all contact with PF after he allegedly suggested that she participate in KB's murder. (Last night on the 48 Hours special, one of the detectives said that you can't put reason to evil, so there's that, too.) So now the R's are saying that PF and KK owned horses together, making this way more than a love triangle. Still, she most certainly could have gone to LE and to KB with the information. MOO

She had a choice.

 

[Trudie]

I am so curious as to why she hasn’t been arrested. Even if she’s lawyered up and not talking, like PF was. Either they don’t have enough to arrest her, or she’s helping LE and will get lesser charges when her arrest time comes is all I can come up with. There’s no doubt she’s involved, but we don’t know the details.

Possibly she’s in a “safe” place where she’s protected. Protected from LE. Dr. Orders. Speculating

 

[jaspermac]

I am so curious as to why she hasn’t been arrested. Even if she’s lawyered up and not talking, like PF was. Either they don’t have enough to arrest her, or she’s helping LE and will get lesser charges when her arrest time comes is all I can come up with. There’s no doubt she’s involved, but we don’t know the details.

So last week I asked this question to I believe Gitana, lawyer. I was worried she was getting immunity. It has been so long, we know they had a search warrant for her place in mid Dec.

She said that she felt charges would be laid. There isn't a rush. I thought maybe she wouldn't talk without a plea. She said it doesn't work that way, because LE only recommends the plea based on her info. So she talks while her lawyer negotiates.

The LE is probably following up on every lead possible trying to confirm or negate her story, particularly around her claims of him threatening her and her being terrified. I am sure they don't want to do a deal until they think they are sure of everything.

That being said- this was early this week. As time goes on, i get more and more nervous she will get immunity. We'll see.

I am trying to hold on to the fact there is no rush, she isn't a danger to anyone.

 

[Elley Mae]

I am so curious as to why she hasn’t been arrested. Even if she’s lawyered up and not talking, like PF was. Either they don’t have enough to arrest her, or she’s helping LE and will get lesser charges when her arrest time comes is all I can come up with. There’s no doubt she’s involved, but we don’t know the details.

I may have watched too many movies.

I have wondered if they have allowed her (KK) to visit PF to see if he will tell her. IDK just a thought.

 

[Noharg]

Motives are usually pretty standard..money, revenge, sex...custody is up there when murder is between couples, could also cross over with money. Jmo

Money, lust, power-custody would fall under power also. JMO Time will tell. This is the most frustrating case due to lack of information regarding evidence. We are running on the bits we can garner from MSM.

MOO

 

[Esma]

So last week I asked this question to I believe Gitana, lawyer. I was worried she was getting immunity. It has been so long, we know they had a search warrant for her place in mid Dec.

She said that she felt charges would be laid. There isn't a rush. I thought maybe she wouldn't talk without a plea. She said it doesn't work that way, because LE only recommends the plea based on her info. So she talks while her lawyer negotiates.

The LE is probably following up on every lead possible trying to confirm or negate her story, particularly around her claims of him threatening her and her being terrified. I am sure they don't want to do a deal until they think they are sure of everything.

That being said- this was early this week. As time goes on, i get more and more nervous she will get immunity. We'll see.

I am trying to hold on to the fact there is no rush, she isn't a danger to anyone.

I don’t think she’ll get immunity, just lesser charges. I hope so.

 

[Kapua]

Anyone think it’s possible KK checked into some type of a hospital, once things got “hot” for her? Maybe she’s “off limits”, per her doctor. This would explain her absence.

Also, Imo, one that can dispose of evidence is fully capable of planting evidence.

Things she claims P told her (girls go missing, KB is crazy,
and such) I believe to be things she told P.
As far “I think he’s killed before”, I think this is her excuse for doing far more than disposing of a phone. IDK when she thinks he killed before, it seems she wasn’t afraid of him from HS grad’ thru most of 2018. Why?
Why, suddenly is she petrified?

I’ve read some hideous comments about KB & baby K, on other sites. I have to wonder if KK or her friends might be behind them.

I think KK murdered KB. I don’t think KB’s phone is the only thing KK left Colorado with.

Jmo

She might very well be hospitalized - or in custody, IMHO. I'm surprised that the Daily Mail hasn't sent a couple of paparazzi to ID to sniff her out. I don't think she's been out in public much these past few weeks.

As to those hideous comments about KB and baby K, we had some here in the beginning of the case (quickly removed by our mods) so I can guess what they said. Thank God we don't allow that kind of victim-bashing here.

KB did not deserve to lose her life at the hands of these evil monsters.

 

[Mercedes]

I have no idea what his counsel is doing. Obviously he’s not conducting biz in public.

Years ago, I read a book, an OTR driver from WA killed a horrific amount of women during his cross Country excursions. He used bungee cords to strap bodies under his trucks& enjoyed knowing he was mutilating their remains as he sped across the interstate. Years later, the wrong man was convicted. The driver/murderer was livid. He wanted the fame. He turned himself in. Iirc, it took two years for the wrong suspect to be released. I’ll see if I can find a link. The murderer took DA to a ravine where he had discarded a purse. That is how he convinced them he was the killer.

Where do you think KK is & why has she not been arrested in your opinion? Tysm

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[enelram]

I may have watched too many movies.

I have wondered if they have allowed her (KK) to visit PF to see if he will tell her. IDK just a thought.

I doubt PF would see her as I think he was referring to KKL
when he told the neighbor he felt like he was being "railroaded".
KKL was already talking her way out of it and incriminating PF.

 

[jaspermac]

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Hi Mercedes, what are your thoughts right now re KK and charges? Why is it taking so long? Do you think because it will end up as immunity?

 

[WildWest]

Honestly I’m not sure. I just think with the little information we have, we have to consider that the motive may have been something way out of our current thinking patterns and reach.

So maybe we should go back to a suggested motive way back in the beginning.
Is it possible KB found out some dark, unspeakable habits of
PF and was ready to separate all contact and he was worried
she was about to expose him.
You know about those lonely, weirdo cowboys still livin' w/
momma. mOO.

Maybe proof of a dark, unspeakable secret was on KB phone, all KK thought she was doing is getting rid of it to keep the secret. Thinking outloud.

 

[Herat]

I am trying to hold on to the fact there is no rush, she isn't a danger to anyone.

Except herself.

Or maybe BFF

 

[The Farm]

I have ideas, just don’t have all the facts.

My instincts lead me to, another woman, money<(child support).

For some that is good enough reason.

Agree, can have ideas but need the facts.

 

[susiQ]

Anyone think it’s possible KK checked into some type of a hospital, once things got “hot” for her? Maybe she’s “off limits”, per her doctor. This would explain her absence.

Also, Imo, one that can dispose of evidence is fully capable of planting evidence.

Things she claims P told her (girls go missing, KB is crazy,
and such) I believe to be things she told P.
As far “I think he’s killed before”, I think this is her excuse for doing far more than disposing of a phone. IDK when she thinks he killed before, it seems she wasn’t afraid of him from HS grad’ thru most of 2018. Why?
Why, suddenly is she petrified?

I’ve read some hideous comments about KB & baby K, on other sites. I have to wonder if KK or her friends might be behind them.

I think KK murdered KB. I don’t think KB’s phone is the only thing KK left Colorado with.

Jmo

I think you're "spot on" on the "projection" that KK is guilty of with regard to the alleged threats and questioning her alleged "fear" of PF. And, I agree that the hideous comments of FB (although I haven't seen any of that) were likely generated either by her or her supporters. I believe her involvement goes far deeper than KB's phone. I hope it can be proven, "without a doubt," but I just can't take the leap required to make her the individual that murdered KB. YET.

I'm sensitive to your theory though, as I live in the area where the Bernardo/Holmolka murders occurred. So I do understand where you're coming from. Bernardo was later convicted of also being the Scarborough rapist. What many point out is that he didn't begin murdering until she came into the picture.

So, I hear ya!