CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[Love Never Fails]

Left to visit the Jayme Closs thread. That guy is a monster and quite proud of himself. These monsters need to have done to them what they do to their victims. LWOP is too good for them.

 

[Herat]

So when did PF and KK really meet?

We have heard 3 different versions, all rumors, and I do include the R’s version as a rumor. KK may have lied to BFF.
1. At a rodeo
2. They worked together
3. Met right after high school.
We have NO proof that any of the 3 rumors are true.
We know that PF was online in 2016 @ justfarmers.com or a similar website trying to rope a love interest. He definitely met KB this way. What’s to say he didn’t also meet KK this way? Maybe she divorced in 2016 to have a new relationship with PF, or maybe she was fishing for a new farmer man after the divorce. We just don’t know. He may have been juggling a few options he connected with on that website. The R’s did say- ‘On her LAST trip to Colorado…’, meaning of course she had been there before. It was reported on the news that KB and PF had been developing a relationship long distance prior to her moving there to be closer to him. Was he also developing a relationship with KK at the same time? KB moves to CO and in fairly short order becomes pregnant. Did he feel stuck now with KB? Did he pine over KK and she over him, or did they continue to engage and the murder plot eventually ensued?

There is a Junior National Rodeo Association. There are high school rodeos and many western HS will have rodeo teams. Very possible on all 3 counts. They are not mutually exclusive

 

[enelram]

KK was divorced in 2016. The marriage likely broke down much sooner than that. Was it because of PF? Idk, a possibility? What I fail to understand then, is why he started a new relationship with KB precisely at the time her divorce is final. Obviously, his motives were not pure with KB if he went on to "hook up" with KK. What a miserable creep.

He was a 'serial philanderer'. He never had true relationships,
he just hooked up for booty calls. Betcha there lots more that
could tell a lot more about his habits. He was a player.
moo

 

[susiQ]

The whole interview is very strange IMO. If they had played all three parts together, the inconsistencies would be even more apparent, but they seemed to go back and forth on a lot of the information. Scared of PF and threats to KKs kids, but possibly multiple trips to CO to visit him. Putting pieces together during the PC with CB and phone number at bottom of screen, but no phone number and then they say they put it together once BFF admitted KB was missing and they saw a FB post. Could they be just piecing together rumors they have heard and acting like BFF told them?

BBM
I don't think so. BFF would get herself a really good lawyer and sue them

 

[Esma]

There are high school rodeos and many western HS will have rodeo teams. Very possible on all 3 counts. They are not mutually exclusive

Yes possibilities, but we have no proof still that any are actually true is what I’m saying. It’s easy to go with the flow on it because of rodeo in common, but it may not be true. I certainly don’t believe some pimply faced 18 year old kid had ‘a hold’ of her since she was 18 either. Lol. That’s just stupid.

 

[Herat]

KK was divorced in 2016. The marriage likely broke down much sooner than that. Was it because of PF? Idk, a possibility? What I fail to understand then, is why he started a new relationship with KB precisely at the time her divorce is final. Obviously, his motives were not pure with KB if he went on to "hook up" with KK. What a miserable creep.

PF doesnt need KK as much as she needs him, is my guess.

 

[EyesofTheSouth]

I am torn on this. It is a long drive, but you would think you wouldn't want too many people knowing about being involved in things like this... although with this group it is the opposite. They seem to tell everyone! MOO

That’s true. In general, the more involved, the more likely it is for someone to spill the beans.

That being said, the Rs have said they and BF knew about the solicitations way back in October, so they already knew too much.

I’m not very surprised that 3 people who already knew a murder was planned were kept in the loop. Maybe the thinking was that since all 3 knew of solicitation way in advance, they would keep their mouths shut so as to not implicate themselves.

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

Well, LE will have the entire interview to review and tease apart.

I think the R’s , CBS, and BFF are in legal jeopardy now and we will not hear from them again

Hopefully! I really hope that the person they are teasing as coming forward for more interviews this week isn't the BFF.

 

[NoeticSoul]

That is very possible! I don't think anyone has mentioned that. Thanksgiving would be a time where KK could have off for more than 1-2 days.

And probably with no kids too, if they were with her ex for the holiday.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

KK was divorced in 2016. The marriage likely broke down much sooner than that. Was it because of PF? Idk, a possibility? What I fail to understand then, is why he started a new relationship with KB precisely at the time her divorce is final. Obviously, his motives were not pure with KB if he went on to "hook up" with KK. What a miserable creep.

They are all miserable creeps. PF,kk,BFF, Mrand Mrs. R., and anyone else involved.
Before, during, and afer. MOO

 

[Trudie]

He was a 'serial philanderer'. He never had true relationships,
he just hooked up for booty calls. Betcha there lots more that
could tell a lot more about his habits. He was a player.
moo

I believe she “played” too. Jmo
Holding on to a “first love” when the object of your love has galloped off, is abnormal, imo.
Not being critical, moo, KK no longer enjoys the physical appearance that once attracted P to her.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

 

[Herat]

Hopefully! I really hope that the person they are teasing as coming forward for more interviews this week isn't the BFF.

I was hoping it was the manager of the WP SonicBurger, or maybe a convenience store worker who sold her snacks along the way

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

First of all, other than the R’s / BFF comments, we don’t have other independent confirmation that she was in WP.

I’m damm curious as to whether she had Wed, Nov 21 off, too. That would imply to me that she premeditatedly arrived when KB was still alive.

We don’t really know when she arrived, do we? It could have been Friday or even Saturday. The Sonic drive-through video that was reported once placed her in WP on Saturday, but there ‘s been no additional mention to confirm that.

All we really surmise is that she had KB’s phone in her possession about 5:31 pm on Sunday Nov 25 and that people who claim to have information from her say she was in Colorado.

But LE knows. I’m very sure of that

If she came in sometime between Wednesday-Friday, where was she staying? With PF? Hotel? Has it been confirmed she had local family? Saturday seems just brutal to drive 12+ hours to then turn right around to drive back.

I just keep coming back to how someone would think they could get away with this. It seems they didn't just leave bread crumbs, but whole stinking loaves of bread, yet PF and even KK seemed to think they were in the clear. It makes me think there could be an unnamed player that did more of this than we think. MOO

 

[Esma]

Killer fiance Patrick Frazee met mistress when they were 18, had a 'hold on her,' was her first love | Daily Mail Online

Updated DM article

"'She had known him since she was 18 years old, right out of high school. I think he had some type of hold on her,' said Patty Rockstahl in an interview with KMVT on Sunday."

"'She was very vulnerable and I think she cared for him, and he took advantage of that… He was her first love, I understand, and… he had a hold on her.'"

This is the biggest pile of bull kaka. So he's her first lover and forever more she blindly does as he wants? Did he put a voodoo spell on her that made all common sense float out of her head?

"'I think she maybe got in over her head, maybe used some bad judgment,' said Patty."

Do you think??!!!!

I don’t believe a single word of that narrative. Other than using bad judgment.

 

[WildcatRunner]

Her brother has been mentioned in several articles here. Such as when he went to her house. Should we remove those too?

At most, you should use only the person's intials. The internet is forever, and when baby K grows up, if she Googles names, we don't want to lead her here to read this sadness.

 

[Herat]

And probably with no kids too, if they were with her ex for the holiday.

And I hope the hospital she worked at has triple-checked their controlled drug inventory for the month of November... she could have been needed by PF to administer some sort of sedative like Versed, which she would have easy access to. That would render KB absolutely helpless. Maybe he even played on KK by telling her it would be a painless death for KB.

And as it could be traced by toxicology, make the destruction of her remains even more necessary.

 

[Esma]

At most, you should use only the person's intials. The internet is forever, and when baby K grows up, if she Googles names, we don't want to lead her here to read this sadness.

We use initials here, but the articles don’t of course.

 

[Herat]

At most, you should use only the person's intials. The internet is forever, and when baby K grows up, if she Googles names, we don't want to lead her here to read this sadness.

THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS

Thank you for this comment.

 

[Herat]

We use initials here, but the articles don’t of course.

There’s no reason for WS to stoop to their level