CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #30 *ARREST*

[Esma]

KK was divorced in 2016. The marriage likely broke down much sooner than that. Was it because of PF? Idk, a possibility? What I fail to understand then, is why he started a new relationship with KB precisely at the time her divorce is final. Obviously, his motives were not pure with KB if he went on to "hook up" with KK. What a miserable creep.

She filed 4/16. KB met PF 3/16. Weeks apart. Any coincidence there?

 

[Jessthinkin]

I don't blame her brother one iota. This is no time to be polite.

I was thinking similar things and I'm not even family of KB...

 

[WildcatRunner]

I was caught off guard by some really interesting similarities between this case and another that was reported on extensively in the Magic Valley Newspaper (TF, ID) back in 2009. Read the whole thing and I think you’ll see what mean. (I don’t believe the 2009 case dragged on long enough to be tracked here. Or, at least, I didn’t find it.)

Woolsey gets at least six months in prison

The attorney's name is a blinding similarity, if nothing else. Wow.

 

[Trudie]

Here is the thing, Trudie, and I mean this with no disrespect so I hope it’s not taken that way.

You also have no evidence that KK was this scorned woman who messaged KB trying to break them up and who plotted to get rid of her competition.

I don’t know at this point how involved I think KK is because we know so very little. I do think she’s not remotely close to innocent but I can’t go to “Snapped” without more than what we have.

I guess I’m just confused as to how you can create a narrative with one based on no evidence but not the other.

Again- I’m strictly making conversation about something that I have found curious. No disrespect intended.

Oh, I need to edit my post. Sorry. I did not mean to imply i know. I was speculating. I thought I made that clear. Tysm

 

[Irmese]

Here is the thing, Trudie, and I mean this with no disrespect so I hope it’s not taken that way.

You also have no evidence that KK was this scorned woman who messaged KB trying to break them up and who plotted to get rid of her competition.

I don’t know at this point how involved I think KK is because we know so very little. I do think she’s not remotely close to innocent but I can’t go to “Snapped” without more than what we have.

I guess I’m just confused as to how you can create a narrative with one based on no evidence but not the other.

Again- I’m strictly making conversation about something that I have found curious. No disrespect intended.

ITA. As you said, no disrespect intended, but I just don't see how KK has been involved in an unrequited love situation for almost 15 years and willing to do anything for her one true love, then flipped. If she was taking the fall, admitting her guilt, saying she did the whole thing, I might believe she did it for love, although I would believe she did it at his request. I think if she was that committed at the start, she'd still be committed. I think she didn't think she'd get caught, but her own loose lips are sinking her ship. JMO.

 

[LAHOLLA]

I was thinking similar things and I'm not even family of KB...

Worddddd

 

[Herat]

The attorney's name is a blinding similarity, if nothing else. Wow.

YUP.

This case just gets more unsettling with every new mysterious revelation

 

[LAHOLLA]

Oh, I need to edit my post. Sorry. I did not mean to imply i know. I was speculating. I thought I made that clear. Tysm

You did, I was just curious about your thought process.

We are all moooing here!

 

[Trudie]

Holy cow, look who her attorney was!

I know, I about choked on my iced tea! Gulp.

 

[LAHOLLA]

ITA. As you said, no disrespect intended, but I just don't see how KK has been involved in an unrequited love situation for almost 15 years and willing to do anything for her one true love, then flipped. If she was taking the fall, admitting her guilt, saying she did the whole thing, I might believe she did it for love, although I would believe she did it at his request. I think if she was that committed at the start, she'd still be committed. I think she didn't think she'd get caught, but her own loose lips are sinking her ship. JMO.

KK has definitely proven she has zero discretion, if nothing else.

 

[Esma]

I don't blame her brother one iota. This is no time to be polite.

Post of the day!

 

[Irmese]

I've read on here that PF told the mom that, but that may have been speculation not fact. I can't find a MSM to back it up.

Kelsey's Aunt said something like she broke up with him and he said she was going to visit relatives. She said it on FB, but it was reported in the MSM after CB asked her to remove it from FB, which she did.

 

[LAHOLLA]

Every. Single. Day. I expect to see new arrests.

WHY ISNT IT HAPPENINGGGGG

 

[Irmese]

Is their official missing page still up abywhere ? I can no longer find it ? Can someone please pm me a link if it’s still up and available?

KB's has been taken down after he was charged I believe.
Edited to say KB's family's official FB page Missing Mother - Kelsey Berreth

 

[BRRI]

Every. Single. Day. I expect to see new arrests.

WHY ISNT IT HAPPENINGGGGG

I think it's a big spiderweb, and they need to figure out most of the story and the players before arresting/charging anyone. No room for mistakes.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Every day here I start to rethink everything. It is so easy to place this all on PF because he is the one in jail. And to be clear, I am sure he is guilty. So I keep going back to that to keep my sanity. However, I was reading up on the statement of Jayme Closs’s abductor and how proud he is of himself and even proud of how he killed her parents.....ugh.... and I realized just how sick and insane some people are. Really insane.

So maybe PF and KK have been involved in an on/off relationship since high school, to the point of both being insane and friends with benefits. What if Trudie is right and KK is the mastermind? Let’s say that PF complained all the time because KB wanted more from him and KK was intensely seething inside and she said why don’t we get rid of her?

And let’s go a step further. Let’s speculate her bff got off to KK talking about how she and PF were going to get rid of KB. Maybe KK and bff started planning. Maybe bff helped or did some driving when KK went to Visit PF. Maybe all her friends helped her when she was married to see PF on the side. We don’t know what we don’t know.

I am truly not surprised by anything anymore. It’s like this world is a free for all for the insane. So LE found a lot to incriminate PF and had enough to lock him up and charge him. Good. Maybe they haven’t charged anyone else because quite a few are involved. Maybe not just
KK. Maybe bff or several bffs.

What’s the motive? I was convinced it was custody. Heck, at this point, maybe it was a thrill kill. In fact, I think the only reason that baby is still alive is because PFs mom would have been destroyed if the baby died and PF knew that.

I need a rest. There is so much evil in the world, I’m getting really distraught. Trudie, you take over because I don’t like where this seems to be headed. Maybe LE can figure it all out and make charges soon,
Whew! Maybe MassGuy needs to come back and be a voice of reason. Cause right now I am ready to convict KK and I don’t even know her. Lol.

 

[NCTeacher]

She filed 4/16. KB met PF 3/16. Weeks apart. Any coincidence there?

Maybe. Maybe she was under the impression that he was looking for alternate companionship because she was married. KK and PF could've been heavy in an affair and she held all the power (or so she thought) because she was married. Cue new prospects for him, suddenly she files for divorce (assuming CO doesn't have separation/length requirements like my state does).

Obviously the filing had little to no impact on him and KB because KB was pregnant less than a year later---and reportedly "getting married soon" in February of 2017 (someone cited this earlier). I would hazard to guess he was playing both women in the 2016/2017 timeframe.

I would love to know how and if KK had a reaction to KB's pregnancy. How I wish I could be a fly on KK's facebook wall in 2017. Lack of reaction would indicate she and PF's relationship isn't as deep as intimated, rip roaring mad would indicate it was.

 

[missy1974]

I was caught off guard by some really interesting similarities between this case and another that was reported on extensively in the Magic Valley Newspaper (TF, ID) back in 2009. Read the whole thing and I think you’ll see what mean. (I don’t believe the 2009 case dragged on long enough to be tracked here. Or, at least, I didn’t find it.)

Woolsey gets at least six months in prison

uhmm that is a crazy coincidence IMO

This story makes the R's getting involved even more suspicious and odd IMO

 

[riolove77]

Attorneys say circumstantial evidence often but it is the only kind of evidence except eye witness testimony or a sworn confession (direct evidence.) DNA is also circumstantial (indirect evidence.)

Exactly. And I personally prefer circumstantial, as most DAs do. DNA doesn't lie. People do.

 

[Deleted member 718]

She filed 4/16. KB met PF 3/16. Weeks apart. Any coincidence there?

To me it means PF wasn't waiting for a divorce to be with KKLRQ. And if KK was hoping that once she was free he would, well, it sucks to be her.

What's your take on it Esma?