CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #31 *ARREST*

[riolove77]

lol, that is something i would do.

Me too, unless I just helped kill someone.

 

[Herat]

Colorado district court: Murder case is sealed
Law enforcement agencies have released little information about Idaho’s connection to a Colorado mom’s disappearance and murder, as speculation and rumors swirl.

Meanwhile, discussion groups on Facebook devoted to the Berreth case grow daily. The Facebook group “Prayers for Kelsey Berreth” has more than 14,000 members. YouTube channels such as Woodland Park Underground continue to focus on the investigation.

The Times-News contacted Lee Richards, spokeswoman for the district attorney’s office in Colorado Springs, on Friday to clarify some conflicting information reported by various news outlets. Richards told the Times-News the case was sealed.

“I can’t answer any questions,” she said.

Media who identified themselves as an NBC reporter, an ABC producer and a freelance photographer for the U.K.’s Daily Mail converged Jan. 4 at a home in Twin Falls County expecting to find the FBI serving a search warrant, they said. What they found were “no trespassing” signs and a heavy chain across the entrance to the property.

Since then, the district attorney’s office in Colorado asked the Twin Falls County Sheriff’s Office to not grant any more interviews, sheriff’s spokeswoman Lori Stewart said.

Any investigations the Twin Falls, ID Sheriff may be participating in are secondary to the FBI investigation and then the Teller County Colorado Sheriff investigations.

The FBI is not going to comment. We really shouldn't expect Twin Falls County Sheriff to be doing much, unless the FBI deems there was a crime committed in the TF County jurisdiction.

 

[Esma]

I think it has been widely reported that the ping was at 5:13PM on Nov 25.

New information released on case of missing mother whose phone was last pinged in Idaho | East Idaho News

"... The same day officers conducted the welfare check, Berreth’s cell phone was pinged near Gooding at 5:13 p.m – over 800 miles from her home in Colorado. Steve Van Dinter, a Verizon spokesman, tells EastIdahoNews.com that the ping would be accurate within a mile of the location coordinates. ..."

she probably left WP the next day And drove from her home to Gooding to send the texts on the 25th. Maybe they still had to plan that part over the next few days.

 

[UnicornDragon]

I still do not think CB's abuse in the media is appropriate. But please note, that's MOO and it's from someone who has a hideous parent set and works in life insurance. I've heard stories that I can guarantee are worse, far far worse. The actions shown would be cause to have the call ended and contact restricted. Expressing aggression because one is in deep pain is not an acceptable behavior. Otherwise, well, Joe can smack his wife because he was hurt becomes acceptable.

 

[The Night Watchman]

I think this is a bad slip-up in the MSM reporting. The reporting is slipshod and I don't think the interviewer really came at this to find fact, but more of entertainment news. I don't think she really understood what she missquoted.

I don't think it's true.

That is the problem with the current media reporting, particularly semi-mainstream media. Some under-appreciated reporter/intern files report and accidentally or intentionally embellishes a little bit to get more bite to the story. But not really knowing the consequences of the erroneous information; how it has meaning and can spread across social networks and other media. Current media is far more interested in ratings/profit than accuracy. Unless these inaccuracies affect their bottom line, this won't change. So...it won't change and may get worse.

The Daily Mail is an example of this, but I am glad we can use it as MSM.

 

[Esma]

I still do not think CB's abuse in the media is appropriate. But please note, that's MOO and it's from someone who has a hideous parent set and works in life insurance. I've heard stories that I can guarantee are worse, far far worse. The actions shown would be cause to have the call ended and contact restricted. Expressing aggression because one is in deep pain is not an acceptable behavior. Otherwise, well, Joe can smack his wife because he was hurt becomes acceptable.

Quit trying to make this something it’s not.

 

[Kapua]

Do we have written evidence that the three solicitation charges were all with the nurse? (mind must be going here for a reason)

What LE said IIRC, and this is the only source I trust, is that there may be other arrests. Arrests, plural. I will look for a link to confirm. ETA link: Missing Woodland Park woman, Kelsey Berreth, presumed dead; fiance arrested in her murder

 

[Jazzy5980]

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[Herat]

Thinker22 said: ↑

They could have even been set from Winter Park, CO, based on the info we have. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) .

WINTER PARK, CO is in Grand County, west of Denver. I think you mean WOODLAND PARK, CO in Teller County. KB lived in Woodland Park and I don't think there is any part of this saga that yet relates to Winter Park.

 

[Herat]

That is the problem with the current media reporting, particularly semi-mainstream media. Some under-appreciated reporter/intern files report and accidentally or intentionally embellishes a little bit to get more bite to the story. But not really knowing the consequences of the erroneous information; how it has meaning and can spread across social networks and other media. Current media is far more interested in ratings/profit than accuracy. Unless these inaccuracies affect their bottom line, this won't change. So...it won't change and may get worse.

The Daily Mail is an example of this, but I am glad we can use it as MSM.

Entertainment Journalism has taken over Journalism like a plague of bleach blondes, tight sleeveless dresses, and stilettos. It doesn't seem to have many limits nor does fact have the control over the narrative.

 

[riolove77]

I still do not think CB's abuse in the media is appropriate. But please note, that's MOO and it's from someone who has a hideous parent set and works in life insurance. I've heard stories that I can guarantee are worse, far far worse. The actions shown would be cause to have the call ended and contact restricted. Expressing aggression because one is in deep pain is not an acceptable behavior. Otherwise, well, Joe can smack his wife because he was hurt becomes acceptable.

You’re free to have your opinion, but I’m not sure how CB’s grief can be construed as abuse. It’s not even comparable to “joe smacking his wife”. I do not believe CB has physically assaulted anyone or threatened anyone harm. He is a victim and has a right to be angry. MOO.

 

[Esma]

You’re free to have your opinion, but I’m not sure how CB’s grief can be construed as abuse. It’s not even comparable to “joe smacking his wife”. I do not believe CB has physically assaulted anyone or threatened anyone harm. He is a victim and has a right to be angry. MOO.

It’s called victim bashing here and against TOS.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

After this realization, Patty contacted the Colorado Bureau of Investigations on Dec. 17 through the number that was posted at the bottom of Cheryl Berreth’s televised plea for help. Michelle immediately called Krystal to let her know, but she wasn’t surprised.

“The FBI was at Krystal’s house,” Patty said. “They had a search warrant and someone of the FBI was at her property. She knew that Michelle would more than likely get called because there was so many phone calls and text messages back and forth in fact some about this incident.” bbm
Part Two: Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

They knew FBI was at KKs, they had to know it was just matter of time before this came back to them. So they come forward, with their fake concern for Kelsey's mom, boohoo hoo.
If they truly cared they would have blown the lid off this at the first word of the murder plot.
Now I believe they are just in CYA mode, and trying to obstruct through hearsay.
MOO

 

[SoVeryMe]

Arrogant.

Yes!!! I couldn’t find the word...arrogant sums it up!

 

[kay74]

You’re free to have your opinion, but I’m not sure how CB’s grief can be construed as abuse. It’s not even comparable to “joe smacking his wife”. I do not believe CB has physically assaulted anyone or threatened anyone harm. He is a victim and has a right to be angry. MOO.

AMEN!

 

[Love Never Fails]

I have gone through this in my mind a hundred times. Why would PF want to kill KB? For that matter, why would anyone kill except in self defense?! I have read every post here, every news account. I have stayed with the issue of custody of baby K. I have decided PF is a murderer and needs the dp. Then we heard about KK and I decided she is equally as guilty but I don’t even know what’s true, except that a beautiful young mother is dead. She is the victim.

This morning, or sometime during the night I wondered what KB was like. Why did this happen to her? We have not seen one friend come forward, one coworker, nor a peep from past romantic relationships. Nothing.

With Laci Peterson, all her friends came out to her vigils, gave interviews, etc. same with Shanaan Watts and others. I am puzzled.

I am wondering if after helping KB move to CO, PF realized he didn’t love her but she became pregnant. He told her he didn’t love her and didn’t want to marry her. She couldn’t or wouldn’t accept that. She was basically a loner and he was her whole life. She wanted a home and life with him and he said no. Maybe he told her he would help her move back home and they could set up a schedule for him to visit the baby. And then bingo, she bought a home. Took him by surprise. And maybe the reason he kept baby K a lot was because KB wanted to believe they would grow close and he would still marry her. Maybe he began to dream of ways to get rid of her. Maybe he had known KK for years and confided in her that he didn’t know what to do any longer and couldn’t get her to leave town. Maybe this is when he began to solicit help in her demise. All the while, KB would not give up. This is where I stop.......

No reason to ever kill someone! I’m not blaming the victim here. What I am saying is maybe he had no coping skills, nothing inside him to know what to do. He likely told his family how he felt or maybe not at all. Maybe he didn’t want to be seen as a wimp who couldn’t handle it.

All other reasons aren’t making sense to me. He wasn’t married to her. He got to see baby k all the time. He had family and friends, as he was in his own environment so to speak. Nothing makes sense. He had cheated on other women before so surely he felt no guilt at doing that.
He had a decent income and I for sure do not believe he was in love with KK. There is a missing link here. Could this be it?

 

[Love Never Fails]

You’re free to have your opinion, but I’m not sure how CB’s grief can be construed as abuse. It’s not even comparable to “joe smacking his wife”. I do not believe CB has physically assaulted anyone or threatened anyone harm. He is a victim and has a right to be angry. MOO.

Thanks Riolove. Anger is one of the stages of grief. I feel so bad for him!

 

[Seattle1]

I still do not think CB's abuse in the media is appropriate. But please note, that's MOO and it's from someone who has a hideous parent set and works in life insurance. I've heard stories that I can guarantee are worse, far far worse. The actions shown would be cause to have the call ended and contact restricted. Expressing aggression because one is in deep pain is not an acceptable behavior. Otherwise, well, Joe can smack his wife because he was hurt becomes acceptable.

Not aware of abuse in media you're referring to. I recall CB made a 2 sentence fb post questioning why owners of a law firm could ever be considered "heroes." Nothing more and certainly not abusive. MOO

 

[Lhughessk]

Someone asked several pages back about the prelim and what it will entail. Sorry, I don’t remember who it was.

Essentially, the point of the prelim is that the prosecution puts forth their case and what they believe it will show so that the judge can determine if there is probable cause for the case to be carried over. So during prelim the prosecution definitely shows their hand. They can put on witnesses and question them. Think of it like a mini trial, except instead of a verdict, the judge determines if the case will in fact go to trial or if there is no probable cause and the suspect must be released.

Don’t worry - that’s not happening here!

And the prelim takes the place of the grand jury, correct? Some states forego a prelim and require an indictment via GJ, but CO goes the prelim route.

 

[Aydrianna523]

I missed many posts, but last thread someone mentioned that we know that KK was in CO on Saturday. Do we know that from the Sonic video? Or LE. You would think someone saw her there.
R's didn't say which day she left. I don't think they gave a timeline. It seemed like they meant the weekend, though.
I had thought she was in town when the murders occurred, but perhaps she could have gone there to get the phone as poster mentioned. New thought for me.