CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #37 *ARREST*

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Boom! Well said.

I just can’t wait until we see this arrest affidavit, so we can point the arrow of blame right where it belongs:

At PF’s smug face.
I can hardly wait either, but I'll be really surprised if the defence doesn't try to keep it sealed until the hearing. Then again, it's still up to the judge, right?
 
  • #1,162
Boom! Well said.

I just can’t wait until we see this arrest affidavit, so we can point the arrow of blame right where it belongs:

At PF’s smug face.

BBM:

I regard PF's as being more of a vacuous, bovine, imbecilic face, but hey, smug works, too!
 
  • #1,163
I can hardly wait either, but I'll be really surprised if the defence doesn't try to keep it sealed until the hearing. Then again, it's still up to the judge, right?
Yup, and the defense doesn’t really have any grounds to oppose it.

They may file a motion, but hopefully the judge denies it, and doesn’t go with the logic of: “they’re going to see it in a week anyways, let’s just wait until then.”

If we don’t see this in a day or two, I’m going to throw something.
 
  • #1,164
Yup, and the defense doesn’t really have any grounds to oppose it.

They may file a motion, but hopefully the judge denies it, and doesn’t go with the logic of: “they’re going to see it in a week anyways, let’s just wait until then.”

If we don’t see this in a day or two, I’m going to throw something.
Well, if it IS released in the next couple of days I predict this thread is going to explode! Never mind my head! :)
 
  • #1,165
Well, if it IS released in the next couple of days I predict this thread is going to explode! Never mind my head! :)
Yes. Although I do enjoy it when that happens.

I just hope I don’t miss it.
 
  • #1,166
I wonder if pf will make it to trial or if he will plea,.I'm hoping he pleas and tells where remains are for his daughters sake. But they are still fighting for custody so he will probably fight this to the end. That poor baby girl will always know what her father did jmoo
 
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For anybody doubting that PF's 2/19 preliminary hearing would not be streamed, the defense formally objected to media request for expanded media coverage (EMC) on 2/19 pursuant to statute (i.e., in criminal cases, EMC only for advisements and arraignments).

...For the above mentioned reasons, Mr. Frazee objects to any Expanded Media Coverage of the Preliminary Hearing and attendant proceedings on February 19, 2019, and asks the Court deny Telemundo Denver’s request

https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...nvers Request for Expanded Media Coverage.pdf

ETA: Court not expected to formally deny media's motion because applicant's service on the parties was incomplete.
 
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Yup, and the defense doesn’t really have any grounds to oppose it.

They may file a motion, but hopefully the judge denies it, and doesn’t go with the logic of: “they’re going to see it in a week anyways, let’s just wait until then.”

If we don’t see this in a day or two, I’m going to throw something.

Like what, are you thinking? Frisbees? Snowballs?
 
  • #1,169
BBM:

I regard PF's as being more of a vacuous, bovine, imbecilic face, but hey, smug works, too!

Hey! That's an insult to cows everywhere. :D
 
  • #1,170
CO hearsay rules as of 2016- correct me if any have changed recently.

Rule 803. Hearsay Exceptions: Availability of Declarant Immaterial

The following are not excluded by the hearsay rule, even though the declarant is available as a witness:

(1)Spontaneous present sense impression. A spontaneous statement describing or explaining an event or condition made while the declarant was perceiving the event or condition.

(2) Excited utterance. A statement relating to a startling event or condition made while the declarant was under the stress of excitement caused by the event or condition.

(3)Then existing mental, emotional, or physical condition. A statement of the declarant’s then existing state of mind, emotion, sensation, or physical condition (such as intent, plan, motive, design, mental feeling, pain, and bodily health), but not including a statement of memory or belief to prove the fact remembered or believed unless it relates to the execution, revocation, identification, or terms of declarant’s will.

(4) Statements for purposes of medical diagnosis or treatment. Statements made for purposes of medical diagnosis or treatment and describing medical history, or past or present symptoms, pain, or sensations, or the inception or general character of the cause or external source thereof insofar as reasonably pertinent to diagnosis or treatment.

(5) Recorded recollection. A past recollection recorded when it appears that the witness once had knowledge concerning the matter and; (A) can identify the memorandum or record, (B) adequately recalls the making of it at or near the time of the event, either as recorded by the witness or by another, and (C) can testify to its accuracy. The memorandum or record may be read into evidence but may not itself be received unless offered by an adverse party.

(6) Records of regularly conducted activity. A memorandum, report, record, or data compilation, in any form, of acts, events, conditions, opinions, or diagnosis, made at or near the time by, or from information transmitted by, a person with knowledge, if kept in the course of a regularly conducted business activity, and if it was the regular practice of that business activity to make the memorandum, report, record, or data compilation, all as shown by the testimony of the custodian or other qualified witness, or by certification that complies with Rule 902(11), Rule 902(12), or a statute permitting certification, unless the source of information or the method or circumstances of preparation indicate lack of trustworthiness. The term “business” as used in this paragraph includes business, institution, association, profession, occupation, and calling of every kind, whether or not conducted for profit.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(7) Absence of entry in records kept in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (6). Evidence that a matter is not included in the memoranda reports, records, or data compilations in any form, kept in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (6), to prove the nonoccurrence or nonexistence of the matter, if the matter was of a kind of which a memorandum, report, record, or data compilation was regularly made and preserved, unless the sources of information or other circumstances indicate lack of trustworthiness.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(8) Public records and reports. Unless the sources of information or other circumstances indicate lack of trustworthiness, records, reports, statements, or data compilations, in any form, of public offices or agencies, setting forth (A) the activities of the office or agency, or (B) matters observed pursuant to duty imposed by law as to which matters there was a duty to report, excluding, however, in criminal cases matters observed by police officers and other law enforcement personnel, or (C) in civil actions and proceedings and against the Government in criminal cases, factual findings resulting from an investigation made pursuant to authority granted by law.

(9) Records of vital statistics. Records or data compilations, in any form, of births, fetal deaths, deaths, or marriages, if the report thereof was made to a public office pursuant to requirements of law.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(10) Absence of a Public Record. Testimony – or a certification under Rule 902 – that a diligent search failed to disclose a public record or statement if:

(A) the testimony or certification is admitted to prove that

(i) the record or statement does not exist; or

(ii) a matter did not occur or exist, if a public office regularly kept a record or statement for a matter of that kind; and

(B) in a criminal case, a prosecutor who intends to offer a certification provides written notice of that intent at least 14 days before trial and the defendant does not object in writing within 7 days of receiving the notice — unless the court sets a different time for the notice or the objection.

(11) Records of religious organizations. Statements of births, marriages, divorces, deaths, legitimacy, ancestry, relationship by blood or marriage, or other similar facts of personal or family history, contained in a regularly kept record of a religious organization.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(12) Marriage, baptismal, and similar certificates. Statements of fact contained in a certificate that the maker performed a marriage or other ceremony or administered a sacrament, made by a clergyman, public official, or other person authorized by the rules or practices of a religious organization or by law to perform the act certified, and purporting to have been issued at the time of the act or within a reasonable time thereafter.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(13) Family records. Statements of fact concerning personal or family history contained in family Bibles, genealogies, charts, engravings on rings, inscriptions on family portraits, engravings on urns, crypts, or tombstones, or the like.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(14) Records of documents affecting an interest in property. The record of a document purporting to establish or affect an interest in property, as proof of the content of the original recorded or filed document and its execution and delivery by each person by whom it purports to have been executed, if the record is a record of a public office and an applicable statute authorizes the recording of documents of that kind in that office.

(15) Statements in documents affecting an interest in property. A statement contained in a document purporting to establish or affect an interest in property if the matter stated was relevant to the purpose of the document, unless dealings with the property since the document was made have been inconsistent with the truth of the statement or the purport of the document.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(16) Statements in ancient documents. Statements in a document in existence twenty years or more the authenticity of which is established.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(17) Market reports, commercial publications. Market quotations, tabulations, lists, directories, or other published compilations, generally used and relied upon by the public or by persons in particular occupations.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(18) Learned treatises. To the extent called to the attention of an expert witness upon cross-examination or relied upon by him in direct examination, statements contained in published treatises, periodicals, or pamphlets on a subject of history, medicine or other science or art, established as a reliable authority by the testimony or admission of the witness or by other expert testimony or by judicial notice. If admitted, the statements may be read into evidence and may be received as exhibits, as the court permits.

(19) Reputation concerning personal or family history. Reputation among members of his family by blood, adoption, or marriage, or among his associates, or in the community, concerning a person’s birth, adoption, marriage, divorce, death, legitimacy, relationship by blood, adoption, or marriage, ancestry, or other similar fact of his personal or family history.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(20) Reputation concerning boundaries or general history. Reputation in a community, arising before the controversy, as to boundaries of or customs affecting lands in the community, and reputation as to events of general history important to the community or state or nation in which located.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(21) Reputation as to character. Reputation of a person’s character among his associates or in the community.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(22) Judgment of previous conviction. Evidence of a final judgment, entered after a trial or upon a plea of guilty or nolo contendere, adjudging a person guilty of a crime punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year, to prove any fact essential to sustain the judgment, but not including, when offered by the Government in a criminal prosecution for purposes other than impeachment, judgments against persons other than the accused. The pendency of an appeal may be shown but does not affect admissibility.(Federal Rule Identical, Except that a Plea of Nolo Contendere was Excluded in the Federal rule.)

(23) Judgment as to personal, family, or general history or boundaries. Judgments as proof of matters of personal, family, or general history, or boundaries, essential to the judgment, if the same would be provable by evidence of reputation.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(24) [Transferred to Rule 807 ]

Rule 804. Hearsay Exceptions: Declarant Unavailable

(a) Definition of unavailability. “Unavailability as a witness” includes situations in which the declarant–

(1) is exempted by ruling of the court on the ground of privilege from testifying concerning the subject matter of his statement; or

(2) persists in refusing to testify concerning the subject matter of his statement despite an order of the court to do so; or

(3) testifies to a lack of memory of the subject matter of his statement; or

(4) is unable to be present or to testify at the hearing because of death or then existing physical or mental illness or infirmity; or

(5) is absent from the hearing and the proponent of his statement has been unable to procure his attendance (or in the case of a hearsay exception under subdivision (b)(3) or (4) his attendance or testimony) by process or other reasonable means.A declarant is not unavailable as a witness if his exemption, refusal, claim of lack of memory, inability, or absence is due to the procurement or wrongdoing of the proponent of his statement for the purpose of preventing the witness from attending or testifying.

(b) Hearsay exceptions. The following are not excluded by the hearsay rule if the declarant is unavailable as a witness:

(1) Former testimony. Testimony given as a witness at another hearing of the same or a different proceeding, or in a deposition taken in compliance with law in the course of the same or another proceeding, if the party against whom the testimony is now offered, or, in a civil action or proceeding, a predecessor in interest, had an opportunity and similar motive to develop the testimony by direct, cross, or redirect examination.

(2) (No Colorado Rule Codified)

(3) Statement against interest.A statement that:

(A) a reasonable person in the declarant’s position would have made only if the person believed it to be true because, when made, it was so contrary to the declarant’s proprietary or pecuniary interest or had so great a tendency to invalidate the declarant’s claim against someone else or to expose the declarant to civil or criminal liability; and

(B) is supported by corroborating circumstances that clearly indicate its trustworthiness, if it is offered in a criminal case as one that tends to expose the declarant to criminal liability.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(4) Statement of personal or family history.

(A) A statement concerning the declarant’s own birth, adoption, marriage, divorce, legitimacy, relationship by blood, adoption, or marriage, ancestry, or other similar fact of personal or family history, even though declarant had no means of acquiring personal knowledge of the matter stated; or

(B) a statement concerning the foregoing matters, and death also, of another person, if the declarant was related to the other by blood, adoption, or marriage or was so intimately associated with the other’s family as to be likely to have accurate information concerning the matter declared.(Federal Rule Identical.)

(5) [Transferred to Rule 807 ]
Rule 807. Residual Exception

A statement not specifically covered by Rule 803 or 804 but having equivalent circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness, is not excluded by the hearsay rule, if the court determines that (A) the statement is offered as evidence of a material fact; (B) the statement is more probative on the point for which it is offered than any other evidence which the proponent can procure through reasonable efforts; and (C) the general purposes of these rules and the interests of justice will best be served by admission of the statement into evidence. However, a statement may not be admitted under this exception unless the proponent of it makes known to the adverse party sufficiently in advance of the trial or hearing to provide the adverse party with a fair opportunity to prepare to meet it, the proponent’s intention to offer the statement and the particulars of it, including the name and address of the declarant.
I’ll be reading this all night! Maybe it will keep me out of trouble . Thanks!
 
  • #1,171
Yes. Although I do enjoy it when that happens.

I just hope I don’t miss it.
I just hope we have a major snow/ice storm so I have an excuse to sit at my computer all day/night long!
 
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Like what, are you thinking? Frisbees? Snowballs?
My laptop, which is one toss away from being a very expensive paperweight.

I literally can not afford for the judge to deny this motion.
 
  • #1,173
Well, if it IS released in the next couple of days I predict this thread is going to explode! Never mind my head! :)

Indeed. Fireworks on display! I cannot wait for the day we get to see the full extent of PF's complete and utter PFness.
 
  • #1,174
Didn’t DA May say hearsay would be present on the 19th?

I was talking about the trial and didn't even think about the prelim. You're right, she might be there.
 
  • #1,175
Indeed. Fireworks on display! I cannot wait for the day we get to see the full extent of PF's complete and utter PFness.
I’m going to add that to my lexicon.

When you really screw something up: “I Frazeed it.”

I think that document is going to validate what we already think of him.

He ain’t that smart.
 
  • #1,176
My laptop, which is one toss away from being a very expensive paperweight.

I literally can not afford for the judge to deny this motion.
MG, you're not allowed to throw your computer! We need you here! You are the voice of reason when we lose our senses :)
 
  • #1,177
Sorry, I responded to it to debunk it and made more work for you.
I’m sorry too. I’m a Newbie and had seen the name mentioned and was curious. My hand stings!
 
  • #1,178
Something else I’ve been wondering. Could KK be talking to SF and SF relay messages to PF?

The only way they could pull that off would be to use a defense atty as a go-between because all other communications would be monitored. I guess one other way would be if the Frazees had a close contact working at the jail. Seems pretty sketchy, though.
 
  • #1,179
Yup, and the defense doesn’t really have any grounds to oppose it.

They may file a motion, but hopefully the judge denies it, and doesn’t go with the logic of: “they’re going to see it in a week anyways, let’s just wait until then.”

If we don’t see this in a day or two, I’m going to throw something.
KRDO News 13 motion to unseal the court file is brilliant -- right down to citing DA Dan May's televised interview from inside the courthouse as support for their motion. KOAA News 5 motion was more generic. Both motions were filed on Friday, Feb 8, 2019.

Hope defense answers tomorrow! It would be great is Court grants motion by Monday-- that we can see record day before hearing.

Colorado Judicial Branch - Teller - Cases of Interest - The People of the State of Colorado v. Patrick Frazee
 
  • #1,180
MG, you're not allowed to throw your computer! We need you here! You are the voice of reason when we lose our senses :)

Oh, nonononono, SusiQ! Please don't feed the animals! Trust me, they're full of it already!
 
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