CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #38 *ARREST*

[Auntie Cipation]

No worries I thought I over-looked that! I always thought that she went to Safeway after (getting the recipe from her mom) baking the rolls in order to possibly get the ingredients to make the frosting real quick (IF they were homemade and not the Pillsbury kind).

Possible, yes. My thought was that she shopping trip was for ingredients for whatever Thanksgiving-y dish she had asked her mom for the recipe for that morning.

Someone also suggested that KB could have bought the rolls - we don't know enough.

If she had made them the day before, I wouldn't think she'd leave them sitting out overnight, although obviously she could have put them away and taken them back out. I just don't see leaving cinnamon rolls sitting out on the counter for any length of time. I wouldn't - they'll get dry and stale.

Excellent point. Although yes, maybe they had been brought out again that morning.

 

[MemPat]

Hapless moron is my new favorite phrase and should be added to the Websleuths terms stat

I know a couple of hapless morons whose pictures I could submit to post with the terms.

 

[Kapua]

Tweeting is allowed according to Sam, however.

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
The State released a decorum order for Tuesday's hearing. No recording is allowed inside the courthouse. That said, tweeting is allowed from inside the courtroom. #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee @KOAA

How do you tweet without devices?

 

[Kapua]

They suggest KB didn't leave town to see Grandma.

The rolls being uncovered also suggests (to me, anyway) that KB was killed the day she baked them. Typically, you leave baked rolls out until fully cooled and then cover them. MOO

 

[MemPat]

So what do you all see happening to PF and his "sidekick phone exterminator" if LE is able to locate the body before the next court date?

I'd expect KB's body to confirm what KK has told LE concerning PF's confession so "more of the same" would be my answer.

 

[PommyMommy]

How do you tweet without devices?

I understand the decorum order to mean that cell phone cameras can't be used for recording or photographs (without prior approval), not that cell phones aren't allowed. Let's hope that's right.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/Decorum Order.pdf
MOO

 

[Artis]

Kelsey Berreth daughter Kaylee poses on a plane in first photo since the death of her mother | Daily Mail Online
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The young daughter of Kelsey Berreth is all smiles in a photo shared by her maternal grandmother.

In the picture the two ladies are seen making a visit to Berreth's former place of employment, Dos Aviation, where Kaylee poses up on the wing of an airplane.

The family shared the image to social media just days before Patrick Frazee is due back in court after being accused of murdering his fiance.

The 16-month-old is temporarily in the custody of her maternal grandparents and it remained that way on Thursday ahead of Frazee's murder trial.

I love seeing that. I've looked and looked for pics of Kelsey either in a plane or standing next to one and can't find any. That's a big and cool part of who she was and her beautiful daughter can be proud of that heritage. Maybe baby K will be a pilot like her mom.

 

[Artis]

From PF’s attorney’s response-

18. These concerns are exacerbated by the extremely small size of the potential jury pool in Teller County, where the case is currently being heard. This competing interest alone is enough justification to leave the Court’s previous orders undisturbed.
AND
19. ...There are social media groups with tens of thousands of members, including members of the named victim’s family, sharing information online. There have been nationally televised interviews of friends of Kelsey Berreth and Krystal Kenney. There have been articles in nationally distributed magazines and newspapers. Contrary to KRDO’s claim that there is no information about this case, the public is overwhelmed with information about this case, and the danger of unfair prejudice that jeopardizes Mr. Frazee’s ability to have a fair trial is extreme.
BBM
Any chance PF’s attorney will make a motion to have trial moved? Jmo

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/001/D-10 Objection to Non-Party Movants KOAA News 5 and KRDO-TV Motions to Unseal Records in Court File.pdf


Eta BBM and first line

I think PF's best shot at a good (for him) jury is right where he is.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

Reading this, gives me hope, that KK will not be truthful.
Hope she hides facts, that show her up, due to PF's Defence antics.
I hope loads of stuttering, and 'can't remember' on KK's part.
The Judge then, may 'stop her deal'.

She is already implicated, but we don't know to what extent.
Of coarse, she may put on a great 'false act', that I hope will be to her downfall.
So besides, the stress of waiting for the trial, her participation, I hope, this woman, 'falls on her face'.
We have a long time to wait.
MOO.

Maybe the VAs could weigh in here, but MOO, this rarely happens.

 

[GordianKnot]

How do you tweet without devices?

Ha! That's a fair question. Maybe someone will ask Sam Kraemer.

 

[MemPat]

Forgive my ignorance but what are Trophy Points?

 

[Artis]

Yes, and Doss Aviation. (Rather than "Dos")
MOO

Especially considering the correct spelling is right there on the side of the plane.

I imagine the Daily Mail offices to be some kind of frantic place like a stock exchange where they're just cranking out content as fast as they can. Corrections, retractions and the cost of lawsuits are figured into the value of being first and the revenue from clicks. Still glad they're there, though.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

Reading this, gives me hope, that KK will not be truthful.
Hope she hides facts, that show her up, due to PF's Defence antics.
I hope loads of stuttering, and 'can't remember' on KK's part.
The Judge then, may 'stop her deal'.

She is already implicated, but we don't know to what extent.
Of coarse, she may put on a great 'false act', that I hope will be to her downfall.
So besides, the stress of waiting for the trial, her participation, I hope, this woman, 'falls on her face'.
We have a long time to wait.
MOO.[/QUOTE
I'm confused why she hasn't been charged with accessory after the fact for helping conceal the murder????

 

[GHgal]

I am wondering if they will be putting her condo up for sale? I need to look and see if an estate has been opened and a death certificate has been issued.

The house is in an LLC, a death certificate would not be needed to sell the property.

 

[Artis]

Once again, I would really like to know if this kind of obsession with privacy is common in this kind of case in Colorado.

It's appropriate to safeguard the rights of the defendant and to try to make sure the jury pool is not contaminated. We don't want a mistrial.

 

[GHgal]

Forgive my ignorance but what are Trophy Points?

You earn trophy points for milestones on this site. 1 point for your first post, 2 points if someone "likes you", 10 Your messages have been liked 25 times. 15 when your content has achieved 100 likes, 5 when you have 30 posts, 20 your content has been liked 250 times, 30 when liked 500 times.

 

[PommyMommy]

Forgive my ignorance but what are Trophy Points?

Click on your number of Trophy Points to see how they are awarded.
MOO

 

[Artis]

So what do you all see happening to PF and his "sidekick phone exterminator" if LE is able to locate the body before the next court date?

I would expect a delay while forensic examination was done. It would also depend on where the remains were found. If they were found in, oh, I dunno, Idaho, that would really change things, eh?

 

[BUF]

Forgive my ignorance but what are Trophy Points?

They stop at 113...really kind of useless IMO

 

[1mtroyal]

In many criminal cases, the investigators "follow the money". In this case I would prefer to "follow the phone (the flight instructor's phone)". On the 22 nd, she had the phone. A day or two later PF had her phone and probably handed it over to the nurse.

How did you get her phone, PF? You had your own phone, why did you need hers? What did you tell the nurse to do with the phone? How many times did you call the nurse between mid November and December 1 st? (Hope you did a lot of texting to the nurse.)

I wonder if PF asked the nurse to kill the flight instructor in person or on the phone?

There are three interesting phones here, PF's phone, the nurse's phone, and the flight instructor's phone. IMO

There are three mistakes made here: the actual murder, the involvement of another person, and the botched coverup. Chris Watts only made one of these mistakes.