CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #4

[Curiousobserver]

Yes, as of right now he is not a suspect or a POI.

They asked to see his phone, for him to submit DNA, and now they just cut the lock to search his home and property. He is a suspect

 

[Jupiter05]

Are search warrants public information in Teller County?? would love to see what they are looking for.....

I would imagine details will be sealed until they can gather and test. Unless something huge in revealed, but PF has had 3 weeks to clean up.

 

[bestill]

The presser today will be very interesting - if they still have it. Searching PF's property and having to cut the locks off the gate is a pretty good indication that LE considers him of interest regardless of if they have formally named him a POI.

 

[oviedo]

If he didn't own the property he couldn't give authorization.
Moo

The owner of the property could have consented back on December 2 IMO. would have saved a lot of speculation for that family.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Yes, as of right now he is not a suspect or a POI.

Well he must be a person of interest if they’re searching property where he works. Moo

 

[bestill]

They asked to see his phone, for him to submit DNA, and now they just cut the lock to search his home and property. He is a suspect

Thank you!

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Kelsey's brother said she made the cinnamon rolls for breakfast on Thanksgiving. MOO

So that leaves us with us with who? Who would she leave with willingly. Who could take her unwillingly and nobody would think much of it. Who could force her to go with them? Keep her in their vehicle for 600 miles,and nobody would bat an eye. Who could easily get away with that?

 

[oviedo]

No, they did not say he was not a suspect. Neither did they say he was a suspect. They said he was the father of the baby.
MOO

When does he become a POI - when LE names him? If executing a search warrant on the property he resides on doesn't mean he is a POI, what does it mean I wonder.

 

[Occam's Zebra]

Even if you exclude the luggage, I think she would have taken her makeup. Somewhere else it was also said that she didn't take her toothbrush.
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Colorado mom missing since Thanksgiving

Toothbrushes are easy to buy. And if she has a lot of makeup, she could have taken some of it without anyone knowing what was missing.

I'm not saying she packed a bag and left - I'm saying that if her family doesn't live with her, and she's not a minimalist or regimentally neat, it would be difficult to say if she packed a bag with clothes and makeup, or not.

 

[BRRI]

Video at the link: Clayton Sandell on Twitter

Deputies arrived and just cut the lock on the gate that leads onto Patrick Frazee’s property in Florissant Colorado. Now executing a search warrant related to the #KelseyBerreth disappearance. @ABC

Well, that doesn’t sound very cooperative on PF’s part, does it?

 

[Jupiter05]

They asked to see his phone, for him to submit DNA, and now they just cut the lock to search his home and property. He is a suspect

Or at the very least, a POI.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

So, her brother was the one who confirmed that none of her luggage was missing. But how would he know? He lives in another state. I also live far from my sibling and I have no clue how many pieces of luggage she has. Unless she had labeled spaces for suitcases and duffel bags and none of them are empty, isn't it possible that she could have packed a bag?

Her tiny, tiny duplex is about the size of your bathroom. She didn't have room for multiple suitcases. It would be far more obvious to her brother if her makeup wasn't taken especially if her mascara, curling wand, foundation and etc... were sitting on her bathroom counter. A beautiful woman like Kelsey would take her makeup on any vacation. She'd also take her own shampoo, hair conditioner, and curling iron. Her brother would know this.

She also would have put up the cinnamon rolls. Nobody would leave those sitting out while they went on a vacation.

 

[SuziQ]

Video at the link: Clayton Sandell on Twitter

Deputies arrived and just cut the lock on the gate that leads onto Patrick Frazee’s property in Florissant Colorado. Now executing a search warrant related to the #KelseyBerreth disappearance. @ABC

they had to cut the lock off? Doesn't sound like the property owner is being cooperative. IMO, JMO, MOO.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

they had to cut the lock off? Doesn't sound like the property owner is being cooperative. IMO, JMO, MOO.

Or they didn’t tell them they were coming and surprised them.

 

[PommyMommy]

They asked to see his phone, for him to submit DNA, and now they just cut the lock to search his home and property. He is a suspect

The presser today will be very interesting - if they still have it. Searching PF's property and having to cut the locks off the gate is a pretty good indication that LE considers him of interest regardless of if they have formally named him a POI.

Well he must be a person of interest if they’re searching property where he works. Moo

When does he become a POI - when LE names him? If executing a search warrant on the property he resides on doesn't mean he is a POI, what does it mean I wonder.

He may be a POI now but per WS TOS we cannot sleuth him until LE names him as a POI/suspect. You may already be aware of this - just want to clarify before we all go hog wild.
MOO

 

[Mauig’ma]

Thank you!

Yeah you can hardly dispute otherwise at this time. Moo

 

[Auntie Cipation]

My notes on planes:

Kelsey’s family said that it would be out of character for her to not let anyone know if she planned on flying cross-country, regardless of her experience in the air.

“She does not own a plane nor do we know of any local friends that she would borrow one from,” they wrote on Facebook. “I don't believe she has ever made a flight without filing a flight plan. We do realize that it is possible to rent a plane, but I believe someone would be missing it by now.”

Monday, Dec. 10 press conference:
All planes at her place of work have been accounted for, and no indication that Kelsey flew somewhere.

Probably moot given the current activity at PF's place but I was intending to refer to all small planes that flew out of Pueblo that day, not necessarily by her or connected to her employer. Again, probably moot now.

 

[bestill]

A lot of time has passed since November 22, that's not good for finding answers or evidence, imo.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

They don’t execute search warrants without probable cause.
jmo

 

[oviedo]

"Search Warrants" in Colorado
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2. How do the police get a search warrant?
Law enforcement officers have to get a valid search warrant before they can execute a search of your property without your consent. This means going to a judge for an order to authorize the search. The police have to convince the judge that they have "probable cause" to believe that there is evidence of criminal activity at the location to be searched.

The police may present before the judge sworn statements, witness statements, statements from police informants, or other evidence. Search warrants generally have to specify the location they are searching, and the specific type of evidence they are looking for. Law enforcement searches may be limited to the areas specified in the warrant.