CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #4

[oviedo]

Luminol. Hopefully he didn't pull a Scott Capobianco and clean the vehicles with bleach.

Detecting Evidence After Bleaching

even if he did I believe luminol would still show - I have seen this on Forensic Files so not really sure if true

 

[PommyMommy]

Does anyone have a link to where the press conference will be by chance? TIA!

These are the links I have so far that should carry the press conference. I'm sure there will be others.

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CBSDenver: Watch CBS4 Live Stream « CBS Denver
CBS Denver

FOX21: Live Stream
FOX21 News

 

[alucardsdream]

Admiring the strength and grace of Kelsey’s mother right now.

My heart breaks for her...I can't even imagine what she's going through.

 

[kspoon45]

Random, but I finally realized what it was about the lawyer statements that bother me. It's that the lawyer twice has referred to the little girl as (paraphrasing slightly) "the child he shares with Ms. Berreth."

It's... Impersonal. And doesn't show an active relationship otherwise, wouldn't it just be "their daughter" ?

 

[PommyMommy]

Almost a month later, can they pick up a scent?

I believe so.
MOO

 

[Cardgame]

No. Not at all. HE gets to say where the baby goes.

Wow. Even in a scenario where the father was charged with the mother of the child's murder? HE would still get to say?

Out of pure hypothetical interest, what if there were a scenario where members of the father's immediate family had also been placed under arrest, and therefore the closest immediate family to the baby was the mother's parents?

 

[K9Enzo]

Almost a month later, can they pick up a scent?

They can indicate on human remains YEARS later.

 

[dedpoet777]

HI Guys it looks like this Youtube channel will have coverage of the press conference.

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[_helianthus]

No. Not at all. HE gets to say where the baby goes.

At what point would a guardian ad litem come into play?

 

[bestill]

Well if he bleached his truck then there's a real big WHY? there.

 

[oviedo]

Thank you for your consideration in giving us all the different time zones for the press conference. The MST always throws me off.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Oh not in our experience here at websleuths. And not in my experience as an attorney. That's just not true. GPS sometimes yes. Sometimes phone companies will quickly play ball in an emergency.

But other stuff like actual phone/text records are time consuming and hard to get. Phone companies are squirrelly about releasing such data without a proper warrant.

May not be typical but discussed with him last night. There was an amber alert in our area as the context.

 

[PommyMommy]

Video - Hanna Knutson on Twitter
Here's a view from the sky as authorities search Patrick Frazee's home. The latest on the search efforts on Kelsey Berreth's fiance's property: https://www.krdo.com/931416883 #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

 

[alucardsdream]

Wow. Even in a scenario where the father was charged with the mother of the child's murder? HE would still get to say?

Out of pure hypothetical interest, what if there were a scenario where members of the father's immediate family had also been placed under arrest, and therefore the closest immediate family to the baby was the mother's parents?

Just being arrested won't terminate his parental rights.

 

[klind55]

Detecting Evidence After Bleaching

even if he did I believe luminol would still show - I have seen this on Forensic Files so not really sure if true

Yes it can, we had a case here locally where he used bleach on the towel load in the washer and on the tile floor and the luminol showed everything.

 

[KathrynL]

Thank you!!!

The link PommyMommy put up is what I viewed earlier.

Among the many possible reasons is that she already has a long commute which would be even longer if starting from his location.

RSBM. I had the same thought, too much added time to her commute.

 

[PommyMommy]

Better video of the truck being towed - Stephanie S. KRDO on Twitter

HAPPENING NOW: Patrick Frazee’s truck getting towed off his property here in #Florissant

 

[oviedo]

1:30 pm PST
2:30 pm MST
3:30 pm CST
4:30 pm EST

Here it is - thanks Tippy

 

[Cardgame]

Just being arrested won't terminate his parental rights.

What if he is in jail and she made a will stating that she wanted her parents to have custody if neither she nor the child's father can look after the child?

{edited for clarity}

 

[oviedo]

The truck being towed must mean it was specified in the warrant - so they must have some information from someone or the phone or something that is leading them - it does not strike me as a "let's look for everything to rule him out" type search IMO