CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #46*ARREST*

[Hatch]

Not only are there many new members here who haven't seen this video, but it shows a round trough, something that didn't have any significance to me the first time I watched it. Thanks for posting it again, ab01.
MOO

Did anyone notice in the posted video which I think is # 1 . Somebody says something to him( guessing SF) he answers
NO very rudely!

 

[Hatch]

In the clip titled Lil Midge- You can here SF talk also .
They sound alike.

 

[Artis]

At best, they had a long-distance relationship. If KK was enamored of PF, her feelings were clearly not based in reality. She may have fantasized their relationship, and with him 800 miles away, that was easy to do. What I don't get is how PF asking her to kill KB didn't cool her ardor.

ETA: It makes me wonder if there wasn't something other than romance binding them.

BBM

Two demons attracted to each other. Really. Different traits and roles but both inherently rotten to the core. He's more fearless (another sign of ASPD and psychopathy) but had he not killed Kelsey, she may have eventually worked up the nerve. The desire was certainly there.

 

[Hatch]

BBM

Two demons attracted to each other. Really. Different traits and roles but both inherently rotten to the core. He's more fearless (another sign of ASPD and psychopathy) but had he not killed Kelsey, she may have eventually worked up the nerve. The desire was certainly there.

Old saying " Two wrongs don't make a right." In this case, well we all know what the wrongs did. One took a life and two built a bonfire . Sadly a good family will live with this the rest of their life's .

 

[Artis]

Odd huh? Arrested development..

I just kept thinking those poor dogs. I wonder how many he kicked the s*** out of in one of his fits.

What's up with his accent? He sounds more like he's from Texas or Oklahoma.

 

[acutename]

I just kept thinking those poor dogs. I wonder how many he kicked the s*** out of in one of his fits.

What's up with his accent? He sounds more like he's from Texas or Oklahoma.

a bit of Irish.... amazing that it has persisted in the US

 

[Artis]

I couldn't even listen to it. That whistle in the beginning made me jump 3 feet off the bed.

That was the only part I liked. I always wanted to be able to whistle like that. Can't do it.

 

[SandyQLS]

Yah I don’t think anybody would be able to plant .....umm any other sort of blood in that manner....at least not realistically moo

ETA and I’m still not sure why they would...

KK created red herrings. She had KB's gun, gave it to old HS pal MP, lying to him that it was KK's aunt's gun. KK had MG's gun, and returned it missing one round with a round in the chamber. Why did KK do these things? Why did she use these innocent people in her scheme? KK claims that although she was not present for the murder, a gun is not the murder weapon.

Back to blood from a couple of KB's tampons in the trash. Soaking in a dish of sterile water that would evaporate would expand the bloody liquid available to spread around. Why do this? KK claims the whole townhome was bloody when she arrived and she cleaned it up. She has no idea other than she says that PF killed KB with a wooden baseball bat. So if CBI finds that the blood is menstrual blood with tampon chemicals, PF must have planted it. The Defense will say KK planted it, and also CB1 and CB2 might have planted it in their grief and zeal. The jury will be confused, but the blood will be excluded as from a baseball bat attack. And conveniently to KK's tale, the wooden baseball bat murder weapon was all burned up.

I don't believe KB was murdered with a gun or with a baseball bat. I don't believe the candle scent sniffing story either. KK also has an out - she will say she isn't lying, PF told her!

The people to look at in KK's world are not the known people innocently caught in her web of lies. She used each person for a purpose: MP to hold KB's gun, MS to get free legal advice, MG to borrow a car and gun. Both MG and MS were the recipients of her solicitation stories, KK needing cover for her presence in WP on those dates. And Aunt K, another innocent bystander.

Why would anyone NOT think KK planted evidence?

JMO just hashing theories...

 

[Artis]

In regards to the dogs and cattle video. We have seen this before several threads ago. We know what he is about.

Lots of readers and posters miss huge chunks of the threads and haven't seen it.

 

[Artis]

I didn't realize, as I hadn't seen it I will delete it. My apologies

Lots of stuff gets repeated and it gives those missed it, previously, the opportunity to see or read it. It's a good thing.

 

[Hatch]

I just kept thinking those poor dogs. I wonder how many he kicked the s*** out of in one of his fits.

What's up with his accent? He sounds more like he's from Texas or Oklahoma.

Not Texas ! Y'all better listen again.

 

[Artis]

Is anyone watching ID now?
Interesting story. A woman bludgeoned to death.
The last hours of the victims life,
that's where the truth lies killer lurks.
Thomas and Kelly Clayton
"KILLING TIME"
"Poker Faced Killer"

I thought it might give me some perspective.
MOO

I just watched it on YT a couple of nights ago. As shocking as Chris Watts. Another beautiful and "ideal" couple.

 

[acutename]

KK created red herrings. She had KB's gun, gave it to old HS pal MP, lying to him that it was KK's aunt's gun. KK had MG's gun, and returned it missing one round with a round in the chamber. Why did KK do these things? Why did she use these innocent people in her scheme? KK claims that although she was not present for the murder, a gun is not the murder weapon.

Back to blood from a couple of KB's tampons in the trash. Soaking in a dish of sterile water that would evaporate would expand the bloody liquid available to spread around. Why do this? KK claims the whole townhome was bloody when she arrived and she cleaned it up. She has no idea other than she says that PF killed KB with a wooden baseball bat. So if CBI finds that the blood is menstrual blood with tampon chemicals, PF must have planted it. The Defense will say KK planted it, and also CB1 and CB2 might have planted it in their grief and zeal. The jury will be confused, but the blood will be excluded as from a baseball bat attack. And conveniently to KK's tale, the wooden baseball bat murder weapon was all burned up.

I don't believe KB was murdered with a gun or with a baseball bat. I don't believe the candle scent sniffing story either. KK also has an out - she will say she isn't lying, PF told her!

The people to look at in KK's world are not the known people innocently caught in her web of lies. She used each person for a purpose: MP to hold KB's gun, MS to get free legal advice, MG to borrow a car and gun. Both MG and MS were the recipients of her solicitation stories, KB needing cover for her presence in WP on those dates. And Aunt K, another innocent bystander.

Why would anyone NOT think KK planted evidence?

JMO just hashing theories...

crazy to plant evidence- just stay home. say: oops sorry, have the kids, their dad isn't well; oops I have to work.

 

[Artis]

Not Texas ! Y'all better listen again.

I've got a good friend from Nacogdoches and it's similar but different, I agree. Lotta twang. I've never heard anyone from Colorado who sounds that way. Maybe "old Colorado"?

 

[Artis]

The video shows based on his tone, and verbiage he thinks he is a tough guy in my opinion.

Controlling. Probably like Ma talks to him.

 

[Artis]

I keep thinking that if KK could do all this to KB knowing a child will be left with no mommy then she must be one cold hearted person. I feel sorry for her own kids growing up with a mom that can lie, cheat and kill in MOO.
I pray everyday for the CB and her family to get to keep Baby K and for her to have nothing but love and kindness poured on her life.

And I hope for his kid's sake that CL gets KK's parental rights terminated.

 

[SandyQLS]

I agree I think many of the things that likely had blood on them were from cast off, PF touching things, PF failed attempt at cleaning up, and KK cleaning up. MOO

Since KK says she left blood spots for LE to find... isn't it amazing that she didn't leave a bloody footprint for them matching PF's shoe size, or even better a bloody baby wipe in the trash with PF's DNA, or best one of PF's bloody fingerprints. Oh wait....

 

[Artis]

I swear he said something like "daggone cow," or he "done did" (something) Maybe I misunderstood but I've only heard people talk like that in the movies.

lol

Western version of a hillbilly.

 

[gngr~snap]

KK created red herrings. She had KB's gun, gave it to old HS pal MP, lying to him that it was KK's aunt's gun. KK had MG's gun, and returned it missing one round with a round in the chamber. Why did KK do these things? Why did she use these innocent people in her scheme? KK claims that although she was not present for the murder, a gun is not the murder weapon.

Back to blood from a couple of KB's tampons in the trash. Soaking in a dish of sterile water that would evaporate would expand the bloody liquid available to spread around. Why do this? KK claims the whole townhome was bloody when she arrived and she cleaned it up. She has no idea other than she says that PF killed KB with a wooden baseball bat. So if CBI finds that the blood is menstrual blood with tampon chemicals, PF must have planted it. The Defense will say KK planted it, and also CB1 and CB2 might have planted it in their grief and zeal. The jury will be confused, but the blood will be excluded as from a baseball bat attack. And conveniently to KK's tale, the wooden baseball bat murder weapon was all burned up.

I don't believe KB was murdered with a gun or with a baseball bat. I don't believe the candle scent sniffing story either. KK also has an out - she will say she isn't lying, PF told her!

The people to look at in KK's world are not the known people innocently caught in her web of lies. She used each person for a purpose: MP to hold KB's gun, MS to get free legal advice, MG to borrow a car and gun. Both MG and MS were the recipients of her solicitation stories, KB needing cover for her presence in WP on those dates. And Aunt K, another innocent bystander.

Why would anyone NOT think KK planted evidence?

JMO just hashing theories...

Yes!
This quote keeps going through my head.

Maya Angelou — 'When someone shows you who they are believe them; the first time.'

Moo

 

[Artis]

Yeah, I can't stand his voice. I don't in a million years see him perceived as being charming or whatever that guy said about him. Imo

Same here. Initially, I figured he may have been charming as many cluster Bs can be but nope. Ain't a lick 'o charm in that creep.

 

[Artis]

IMO she could be mistaken how many bullets were in the clip.

Yeah, because she's got to be a kind of dingbat to leave that weapon in the car in the first place. I think it's a red herring.