CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

[susiQ]

And did you notice the number for SR is the same number listed as KK? And yet the doc is careful to point out that the number is in Wendell, ID? And that Patrick had comm with it several times? Odd

Do you have the link to that. I'm running short on time today to go looking for it.

 

[enelram]

What was he doing with her ENT card and a money transfer slip belonging to her?

Also, we have Verizon bills but then also a Go Wireless receipt for SF. Are these for different phones/accounts? Not sure what Go Wireless is...

Numerous keys to various residences, PO boxes, vehicles also sounds odd to me...

The ENT checks, etc. from the Estate of R Frazee I mentioned last night...

I can't think of a reason they would take empty dog food bags...??

Does anyone know what Entry 47 is in the return--does that say Nook?

Centurylink, Waste Management and IERA invoices for SF. Any idea what IERA is?

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-112 Execution.pdf

Just thoughts, clarifying even for myself to go do some searching and pulling them from the mess of documents...

IERA could be something like Individual Employment
Retirement Account for SF. Or maybe the E is a typo and
it's a simple IRA.

 

[susiQ]

Page 20 is where that is described and his phone rings from her right after he attempts to call KB's phone.

Yes, something is fishy there because he got that call right after he tried to call KBs phone.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf

Thank you Hatfield! Couldn't remember where I had read it

 

[enelram]

What was KKL's aunt's name or initials? SR ?

 

[susiQ]

I caught that too and I would like to know why? She should not be off limits if that is what it is...

Is it possible that KK had already deleted the content of her account once she realized she was on LE's radar?

 

[yawningreyhound]

I’m referring to the page number printed in the document itself at the top right under where is says “Attachment A”

Oh I see what you're saying! I was looking at my PDF numbering system, not the search warrant's numbering system. Yes, deleted photos I believe......sorry!!!!! There's more of that vertical lining in the documents. Maybe protecting the "other" sheila

 

[ilovechili]

Is it possible that KK had already deleted the content of her account once she realized she was on LE's radar?

I wondered that but it takes awhile i think with FB, i have read that in other cases, before it is gone. Another thought i had is they realized it was not her "main" account but then one would think there would be another warrant for a different account...

 

[ilovechili]

IERA could be something like Individual Employment
Retirement Account for SF. Or maybe the E is a typo and
it's a simple IRA.

That could be, good thought.

There is an electric company by that name out there though. I wonder why a power bill would be of interest...

 

[yawningreyhound]

Do you have the link to that. I'm running short on time today to go looking for it.

not without searching, but it's the search warrant document for electronic info, the one with all the lines showing the tower pings on the trip to Idaho. Under one of the photos, it talks about the calls made to the SR 731 6679 which I believe is kks number....wait, I DO still have it up....here it is page 20 of 26 attachment a https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...erest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Replied to add:

Also this particular camera was affixed to the neighbors house that was directly next to KB condo entry door. per the address listed

To add to our camera confusion, this document lists 251 (the neighbor with the Arlo camera) as directly east of KB's, when it's actually directly west of KB's...

It's probably because Kelsey's family were under the impression that she was going to marry Frazee, therefore the baby would then have his name and that ornament would be a forever keepsake.

I don't follow. If the baby's last name is legally B, it wouldn't change just because her parents got married. In fact it wouldn't change even if her mom changed her own name upon marriage. Baby's name doesn't change until someone legally changes it, regardless of what event is the prompt. But I do agree it's puzzling why KB's brother used the wrong name.

IERA could be something like Individual Employment
Retirement Account for SF. Or maybe the E is a typo and
it's a simple IRA.

That could be, good thought.

There is an electric company by that name out there though. I wonder why a power bill would be of interest...

Didn't the warrant say they were looking for "indicia"? That apparently means postal service markings? I suppose as a part of confirming that the right people actually live at that location or something? An electric bill would fit that need, I assume.

 

[MsBetsy]

Page 20 is where that is described and his phone rings from her right after he attempts to call KB's phone.

Yes, something is fishy there because he got that call right after he tried to call KBs phone.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf

Maybe she used a friend's phone so it wouldn't be traced back to her. Were the phone calls only on that day or were there several days? I just read it but now I don't remember. I thought it was just on that day, after the last recorded call or text from KB's phone.
Had KK destroyed the phone by then?

 

[GHgal]

Did Patrick know CB and Kelsey’s brother were arriving on the 4th? Hence, the trip to the home to pick up the package on the 3rd to give the appearance KB had retrieved it and therefore was still alive?

 

[susiQ]

I wondered that but it takes awhile i think with FB, i have read that in other cases, before it is gone. Another thought i had is they realized it was not her "main" account but then one would think there would be another warrant for a different account...

It took me 14 days for my account to "vanish" meaning you can no longer sign in because there isn't one. However, before that happens, you can still go in and delete your content at will, so it's only a matter of waiting for Facebook to then erase your account.
ed:sp

 

[yawningreyhound]

Well! DWAP is included in the Dateline episode this week!

 

[susiQ]

Did Patrick know CB and Kelsey’s brother were arriving on the 4th? Hence, the trip to the home to pick up the package on the 3rd to give the appearance KB had retrieved it and therefore was still alive?

CB had asked PF to pick it up in a phone conversation. He claimed he was in Westfield but would go after. It appears he went with his buddy RS who actually went to the door to get it so PF would not be picked up by the surveillance video of the neighbour.

 

[Hatfield]

Regarding those calls from Page 20,

If KK was over at SR house at the time PF tried to call KB's phone, then it means that KK for some reason didn't want to answer it but saw he was calling and then asked SR to use her phone to call PF back.

Can you imagine SR agreeing to that. Sure, take and use my phone and then I will be in a search warrant someday with a map of my house.

What could have happened is KK could have lied to SR and said she needed to make a call but her phone is out of minutes or something. But I have a feeling this other person knew a lot more about the situation to allow use of her phone. She may have even been the one to call PF because we dont know if KK was even there.

LE has work to do in this area if they have not interrogated these extended parties. There is lots of information to be gathered from the extended parties IMO.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf

 

[ilovechili]

It took me 14 days for my account to "vanish" meaning you can no longer sign in because there isn't one. However, before that happens, you can still go in and delete your content at will, so it's only a matter of waiting for Facebook to then erase you account.

I can't remember where but I think I read in another case recently on here that on the FB end it takes about a good month.

We do have some warrants missing--I note KB's and PF's FB accounts are the last two warrants. There is a gap of numbers before that. It is the warrants that have no results we did not receive. I wonder if they are still waiting on KK's? Maybe because there is so much info lol... I can dream right?

 

[ilovechili]

CB had asked PF to pick it up in a phone conversation. He claimed he was in Westfield but would go after. It appears he went with his buddy RS who actually went to the door to get it so PF would not be picked up by the surveillance video of the neighbour.

I found it interesting they are aware of the surveillance videos at this time. I have always wondered if he was when this all occurred as well...

 

[MsBetsy]

Did Patrick know CB and Kelsey’s brother were arriving on the 4th? Hence, the trip to the home to pick up the package on the 3rd to give the appearance KB had retrieved it and therefore was still alive?

Maybe. She had asked him to pick it up but had the impression he never did. I don't know how long between the time he said he would and he actually did pick it up. It must have been awhile since his friend ( Slager?) told him not to get out of the car. Imo

 

[susiQ]

I can't remember where but I think I read in another case recently on here that on the FB end it takes about a good month.

We do have some warrants missing--I note KB's and PF's FB accounts are the last two warrants. There is a gap of numbers before that. It is the warrants that have no results we did not receive. I wonder if they are still waiting on KK's? Maybe because there is so much info lol... I can dream right?

From my personal experience last year, once I went through the motions of asking for it to be closed, I was given a reminder that I had 14 days to download any content I wished to keep. The day prior to the 14th day, I was sent one more reminder that I had 24hrs to download any content. But, like I said, during those 14 days, I had the option of deleting content from my Facebook so that if someone checked my Facebook account they would not see anything of interest.