CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

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  • #221
I'm with you guys....I saw a pundit on cable who's a contributing former prosecutor and she once said "Yeah, we don't believe in coincidence." It's the timing that gets me....The call to SF from PF from KB's condo was literally almost seconds near to the time of the SMF FB post. That said, someone on here said the SMF woman has been contacted and has explained her post. But the timing, it just doesn't GET any more weird.
Do they know who the person was that sent LE the FB message that night? That's what I would really like to know.
 
  • #222
I was “paying very close attention” to all the players involved in this case, as soon as that first press confence was over.

I checked out all of their social media.

I saw the post in question, and ultimately saw this woman’s explanation for it (She was simply watching the Wizard of Oz).

She has absolutely no connection to the other people who share her name.

Other people share my first and last name, live close to me, and aren’t related in any way.

Just like this

This was a coincidence, a wild one.

Funny they did not put a disclaimer out along with the document. Definitely a wild coincidence. Right name, right case, right time, right date, right state. And then LE releases it.

Wild is right... Unfortunate woman then... She is/was in LE so I wonder what she thinks of them getting it wrong...
 
  • #223
What was he doing with her ENT card and a money transfer slip belonging to her?

Also, we have Verizon bills but then also a Go Wireless receipt for SF. Are these for different phones/accounts? Not sure what Go Wireless is...

Numerous keys to various residences, PO boxes, vehicles also sounds odd to me...

The ENT checks, etc. from the Estate of R Frazee I mentioned last night...

I can't think of a reason they would take empty dog food bags...??

Does anyone know what Entry 47 is in the return--does that say Nook?

Centurylink, Waste Management and IERA invoices for SF. Any idea what IERA is?

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-112 Execution.pdf

Just thoughts, clarifying even for myself to go do some searching and pulling them from the mess of documents... :)
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  • #224
So I just researched the warrants again and the warrant for the KK phone number is the exact same number given for the SR person in Wendell, ID. Maybe LE didn't KNOW about KK when they researched that Idaho phone number they came up with belonging to SR in Wendell, ID. Could THAT be the issue? LE used the common search engines and came up with SR; when I used the search engine I use, BOTH KK and SR came up under that number. So, again, an unfortunate hit on SR.
 
  • #225
Hmm, I can't think of what an electric bill would have to do with the case or evidence...

That could be, good thought.

There is an electric company by that name out there though. I wonder why a power bill would be of interest...

I work for an electric utility. With the newer smart meters, we can see consumption patterns in a household down to minutes. So for example, if my usage were very high between 9 AM and noon every Saturday, there is a likelihood I’m using an electric appliance such as a washer and dryer. The meters have even been used in other states to provide discovery of marijuana growers, since the process is energy use intensive.

Just giving this as background, as I have no way of knowing why it was actually asked for in the warrant.
 
  • #226
So 719 is a Colorado area code. I was mistakenly thinking it was Idaho. And the one number is a search warrant for a phone that comes back to SF. Per number taken from the search warrant.
 
  • #227
The Wizard of Oz original 1939 movie aired on TBS on Thanksgiving 11/22/18 at 6:00PM EST. That's 4:00PM MST.

Thanksgiving 2018 TV Schedule – What to Watch This Year!

TBS often airs a 5 minute +/- historical header. The film runs 141 minutes. Glinda appears at about 22 minutes, and the Munchkins are singing "Ding Dong, the witch is dead, the witch is dead!" up to approx. 25 minutes in.

SM-F is an unrelated person to the case. Some $%&@ was doxxing her FB and sent the "tip" to LE. LE didn't spend 3 seconds to google that the film had aired that day, that the post was made just after the witch died in the film, and LE did not spend 10 minutes to discover that SM-F is not SF. Better to write a SW...?


Great post SandyQLS! It's not so hard for me to believe that SM-F and SF are not the same person and this truly was a big coincidence. IMO
 
  • #228
I work for an electric utility. With the newer smart meters, we can see consumption patterns in a household down to minutes. So for example, if my usage were very high between 9 AM and noon every Saturday, there is a likelihood I’m using an electric appliance such as a washer and dryer. The meters have even been used in other states to provide discovery of marijuana growers, since the process is energy use intensive.

Just giving this as background, as I have no way of knowing why it was actually asked for in the warrant.

Interesting. I was thinking it could indicate a high usages of electric but I could not think what would spike it in this case...
 
  • #229
Do they know who the person was that sent LE the FB message that night? That's what I would really like to know.

hmmmmm.....excellent question!!!!!!
 
  • #230
I was “paying very close attention” to all the players involved in this case, as soon as that first press confence was over.

I checked out all of their social media.

I saw the post in question, and ultimately saw this woman’s explanation for it (She was simply watching the Wizard of Oz).

She has absolutely no connection to the other people who share her name.

Other people share my first and last name, live close to me, and aren’t related in any way.

Just like this

This was a coincidence, a wild one.
LOL.... I feel this girls pain! My SIL and I have the same first name, and had the same last name before we married brothers... then obviously the same last name when we married brothers. It was such a mess to Dr’s, Dentists, pharmacies that we both had to change all those..... even with big orange “Caution.. Patient with same name” they just never checked the D.O.B’s.

Hopefully it won’t be too much for this girl.
 
  • #231
In the SW111 list of items to recover at PF residence, the #1 set of items is what he purchased at Walmart 11/22: box of diapers 'Parents Choice diapers', case of Coke soda, dog food, baby formula.

Why was PF buying baby formula for a 14-month old? Even if the baby was born 3 weeks early, by 1 year she would be caught up. Didn't PF know she should be eating more like Gerber Step 2 or 3, exploring a variety of soft foods like yogurt, bananas, etc.?
 
  • #232
Good morning! Whew what a day yesterday. I just wanted to throw this out there. A lot of speculation was a muck regarding the Ancestry DNA kit , and forgive me if it’s already been said as I worked a 12 hour **** and didn’t read the entire thread, however last Christmas and the Christmas before that, I personally gifted 5 Ancestry DNA kits. They make wonderful Christmas presents and are on sale starting in early November. I’m just saying IMO, KB could have either wanted the DNA kit for herself for fun or to gift at Christmas! Have a good day everyone I’m back on a 6 hour then off for 24!

Arg, I'm so far behind. Now I gotta go back and see what happened yesterday :confused:
 
  • #233
LOL.... I feel this girls pain! My SIL and I have the same first name, and had the same last name before we married brothers... then obviously the same last name when we married brothers. It was such a mess to Dr’s, Dentists, pharmacies that we both had to change all those..... even with big orange “Caution.. Patient with same name” they just never checked the D.O.B’s.

Hopefully it won’t be too much for this girl.

Wow. Dont ever go in the same hospital for something if she happens to be donating a kidney. :)
 
  • #234
In the SW111 list of items to recover at PF residence, the #1 set of items is what he purchased at Walmart 11/22: box of diapers 'Parents Choice diapers', case of Coke soda, dog food, baby formula.

Why was PF buying baby formula for a 14-month old? Even if the baby was born 3 weeks early, by 1 year she would be caught up. Didn't PF know she should be eating more like Gerber Step 2 or 3, exploring a variety of soft foods like yogurt, bananas, etc.?

I wondered about the dog food because they took empty dog food bags. Is it simply proving it is him in the video maybe by matching the purchases? They also took a sippy cup with liquid maybe matching the formula?

I get your point, I too thought it was a bit odd she would still be on formula...
 
  • #235
In the SW111 list of items to recover at PF residence, the #1 set of items is what he purchased at Walmart 11/22: box of diapers 'Parents Choice diapers', case of Coke soda, dog food, baby formula.

Why was PF buying baby formula for a 14-month old? Even if the baby was born 3 weeks early, by 1 year she would be caught up. Didn't PF know she should be eating more like Gerber Step 2 or 3, exploring a variety of soft foods like yogurt, bananas, etc.?
That he bought formula would lead me to believe he didn't take care of her as much as he said he did.
 
  • #236
Wow. Dont ever go in the same hospital for something if she happens to be donating a kidney. :)
Too funny! Thanks for the heads up :)
 
  • #237
In the SW111 list of items to recover at PF residence, the #1 set of items is what he purchased at Walmart 11/22: box of diapers 'Parents Choice diapers', case of Coke soda, dog food, baby formula.

Why was PF buying baby formula for a 14-month old? Even if the baby was born 3 weeks early, by 1 year she would be caught up. Didn't PF know she should be eating more like Gerber Step 2 or 3, exploring a variety of soft foods like yogurt, bananas, etc.?
Right, I agree and also LE confiscated an opened container
of Enfamil and a bottle w/ Enfamil in it. Sounds like someone was giving her meals by bottle at 14 mo.
 
  • #238
Regarding the landfill search, do you think the experts that are assisting are able to do some sort of calculation based on the amount of trash delivered to the facility each day to estimate just how far down in the area they are searching KB’s remains may be?

I realize they may not know the exact date her remains and other items were disposed of (or maybe they do), but wondering if they know items from November 24th - 26th should be “X” feet down in their search area?

I know they have only been at it a few days and am praying they find something.
 
  • #239
Regarding the landfill search, do you think the experts that are assisting are able to do some sort of calculation based on the amount of trash delivered to the facility each day to estimate just how far down in the area they are searching KB’s remains may be?

I realize they may not know the exact date her remains and other items were disposed of (or maybe they do), but wondering if they know items from November 24th - 26th should be “X” feet down in their search area?

I know they have only been at it a few days and am praying they find something.

Maybe, I don't know! But what amazes ME is that it's narrowed down to a location. I was impressed by that. And it tells me they suspect the day it was delivered otherwise how would they narrow down a location?
 
  • #240
Right, I agree and also LE confiscated an opened container
of Enfamil and a bottle w/ Enfamil in it. Sounds like someone was giving her meals by bottle at 14 mo.

Does Enfamil make a toddler drink? Perhaps it was used in a cup as a supplement. I recall seeing somewhere that the baby had some birth issue, born slightly early? Just speculating. Or yes, he may have relied on the bottle. I assume he would follow Kelsey’s routine, else do what his mother told him to do. And I won’t go there.....
 
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