CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

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Did he fool all of the players involved in this into believing he was innocent and they became part of his plan. This is what sociopaths do. Are the others innocent? There seem to be so many other players in this that I’m starting to wonder how good this young man was at manipulating others. Could he really be evil incarnate? I’ve just never heard of a case like this and so many involved that look like suspects in some way aside from the actual suspect himself.
 
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More like Occultist actions. This is one large brood of vipers. I am so glad the baby is safely away from this group. I fear they had evil planned for that child.
You might be right I am not familiar with the Occultist. I know they exist, but their ways are not a curiosity I want to sleuth.
 
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Don’t quote me on this, but I believe many cattle farmers use donkeys to put in pastures with cattle bc of their calming nature. Moo
Also donkeys will alert VERY LOUDLY if anything comes around and will take on coyotes.
 
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Wha

She went along with it willingly, because she wanted KB gone so she could have PF to herself. I don't believe she didn't poison the coffee. I think Kelsey just didn't drink it.
She is as stupid as she is cold to think that PF would be all about her once Kelsey was gone.
MOO
I think she poisoned the coffee, too.
 
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He did not fool all people, there are a few out there, not ex girlfriends, that will hopefully speak at trial.
I hope so but have yet to learn who they are. Do you have some inside info that you are privy to on this ? Would love to know who is going to speak at trial.
 
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I hope so but have yet to learn who they are. Do you have some inside info that you are privy to on this ? Would love to know who is going to speak at trial.
No inside info, but there are interviews out there for a few that I hope will speak at trial.
 
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No inside info, but there are interviews out there for a few that I hope will speak at trial.
I hope so I would love to see him go down. Unfortunately we will never see his co-conspirator go down ever. Which saddens me.
 
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ADMIN NOTE:

Sleuthing family members is not allowed.

Other than what has been said in MSM about family members, or what they have said in MSM, family is off limits.
 
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Yep. Me, too.
I think she did whatever he said I believe she did poison it .. Kelsey just didn’t drink it. I’m still not sure kk didn’t play more of a role in this heinous crime. I keep waiting for proof of where she was on 11/22 and still haven’t gotten it. Why can’t they just say kk was in Idaho on 11/22 we have her phone pings here?? Not one report as to where she was on 11/22
 
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PSA: sleuthing family members not involved or mentioned in MSM is against TOS
 
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Why don’t they ever say where kk was on 11/22 ? I don’t think she killed kB but for the life of me I can’t figure out why the heck they don’t say her phone pings were in Idaho on 11/22. Why don’t they just say it to eliminate her as a suspect ? It will just make it clear to me and many others here that are with me and eliminate her as a suspect.. unless they can’t for some reason
 
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Why don’t they ever say where kk was on 11/22 ? I don’t think she killed kB but for the life of me I can’t figure out why the heck they don’t say her phone pings were in Idaho on 11/22. Why don’t they just say it to eliminate her as a suspect ? It will just make it clear to me and many others here that are with me and eliminate her as a suspect.. unless they can’t for some reason
Because that preliminary hearing was about proving to a judge that there was enough evidence to proceed with a case against PF.

It was simply about meeting that burden.

Now at trial, they will absolutely have to show where KK was at the time, as it’s likely that the defense is going to try and implicate her in this.

So we are going to have to wait, unfortunately.
 
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Why don’t they ever say where kk was on 11/22 ? I don’t think she killed kB but for the life of me I can’t figure out why the heck they don’t say her phone pings were in Idaho on 11/22. Why don’t they just say it to eliminate her as a suspect ? It will just make it clear to me and many others here that are with me and eliminate her as a suspect.. unless they can’t for some reason
One of the documents released (I don’t recall which) states that there was no location information in her google account that day if I recall. I could be mistaken.
 
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One of the documents released (I don’t recall which) states that there was no location information in her google account that day if I recall. I could be mistaken.
Yeah, that simply means that the apps on her phone weren’t tracking her precise location.

Fortunately, that doesn’t prevent phone pings.

So Google didn’t know where she was, but the cell towers still told law enforcement.
 
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So do you think she was there at the time ? It must be if the defense is going to try to say she was there and we have not heard differently.
 
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So do you think she was there at the time ? It must be if the defense is going to try to say she was there and we have not heard differently.
Because that preliminary hearing was about proving to a judge that there was enough evidence to proceed with a case against PF.

It was simply about meeting that burden.

Now at trial, they will absolutely have to show where KK was at the time, as it’s likely that the defense is going to try and implicate her in this.

So we are going to have to wait, unfortunately.
So if they want to implicate her they must have her location and it’s gotta be near him and KB.
 
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So if they want to implicate her they must have her location and it’s gotta be near him and KB.
Yup. But my guess is that the phone data isn’t going to support that.

Plus, we know that PF entered the house after he last said, and left with Kelsey’s phone.

So it cripples the defense’s ability to push the timeline out, and put KK in the area at the time of Kelsey’s murder.

If KK was in Idaho at the time, then only PF can be the killer.

I still think they’ll try and point the finger at her, but I don’t know how.
 
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Link for this? I have not seen it reported although lots of folks have speculated.
Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Talking about Kelsey’s admittance to a depression clinic. Kelsey was diagnosed with severe, non-suicidal depression. Defense asks if she lied, knowing she told Doss she had chronic fatigue. Slater said no, they were related. @KOAA

From Prelim hearing 2/19/19 Defense questioning CBI Agent Slater late in the afternoon. From Thread#39 page 104.
 
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Because that preliminary hearing was about proving to a judge that there was enough evidence to proceed with a case against PF.

It was simply about meeting that burden.

Now at trial, they will absolutely have to show where KK was at the time, as it’s likely that the defense is going to try and implicate her in this.

So we are going to have to wait, unfortunately.

Yep it was all about where PF was, what PF did and why PF likely did it. There will be a place and time to prove where KK was and PF preliminary hearing was not that time IMO

They absolutely know where KK was and will prove it at trial.....MOO
 
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