CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #49 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 102539]

When the nurse was done with the cleanup, didn't she put some full plastic trash bags by the street and went and got her car and picked them up? What did she do with them? Did she put them in a dumpster? Maybe the police are searching the dump for these also (including the missing floor mat.)

If I remember right, she took the trash bags to the franchette and looked at the nice fire they fed.

 

[ab01]

I just saw this on line. Wasn't sure how to post it. ANOTHER WOMAN????

While it is very interesting, I think we have to keep in mind that KK was using various cell phones...........

Also it was written by Chris Spargo, So I take it with a whole dang Salt mine.....MOO

Accused killer Patrick Frazee in contact with ANOTHER mystery woman in Idaho who lives near last known location of Kelsey Berreth’s phone — 10 minutes after it last pinged

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Nobody is out searching today and all schools are closed from the Springs to probably Cripple Creek. All main roads are closed, allot of power out, and the wind is blowing the snow at 70 pmh right now in the foothills of Colorado Springs.

sorry bad photo, too windy out. 96 pmh wind gust at the airport here!

Stay safe. That goes for all the decent LE Working hard on this case too.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

While it is very interesting, I think we have to keep in mind that KK was using various cell phones...........

Also it was written by Chris Spargo, So I take it with a whole dang Salt mine.....MOO

Accused killer Patrick Frazee in contact with ANOTHER mystery woman in Idaho who lives near last known location of Kelsey Berreth’s phone — 10 minutes after it last pinged

It's in the search warrant.

 

[Kapua]

I just saw this on line. Wasn't sure how to post it. ANOTHER WOMAN????

The Daily Mail.

'Nuff said.

MOO

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

I'm beginning to think there's a "trigger" for those minority/few cases that cannot be explained, or lack warning signs.

IMO, based on what has been published from accounts by CB and PF's former girlfriends, there were warning signs. The problem was that apparently people close to PF did not recognize them, or chose to ignore them, and some even enabled him in continuing the abusive behavior. Maybe we'll find out if PF's abusive behavior ever rose to the level that warranted action by LE, but wasn't reported or not followed through.

However, it seems a good many psychopaths can keep their abuse just below the level that breaks the law--for a long time or even forever. That's why it is so important for the friends and family members of victims to at least try to intervene. I understand that psychopaths are masters of deceit, manipulation and brainwashing, which results in victims not really understanding they are victims. Our society needs so much more education on this topic so that we all--victims, friends and family--have a better chance of recognizing what's going on in order to help ourselves and each other. Like with "Me Too," I think this awareness will be led by women.

So many of us mothers and grandmothers who have "learned the hard way," can start with our own daughters, sons, granddaughters and grandsons. I once stepped in and lambasted my teen son right in front of his GF because he swore at her. I told him never to speak to any girl / woman like that again. I told his GF never to allow any
boy / man to speak to her like that. I was angry and did not hold back or sugar coat at all. Too often, people just want to mind their own business and look away because of embarrassment. Everybody, call them out, every single time, and of course, the same with child abusers. I agree with the posters who commented that partner murder is getting worse. Abuse, in whatever form, starts at a low level and escalates, often unchecked, until it finally results in murder. I don't think it suddenly erupts out of nowhere. Abuse at every level and in every form needs to be checked. MOO.

 

[Hatch]

If I remember right, she took the trash bags to the franchette and looked at the nice fire they fed.

Yes she sat them down beside KB Corolla and then walked to where she had parked her vehicle and drove back to KB condo and picked them up. It is not known but I feel sure the car KK was driving has been searched and swabbed. It is assumed she took them to the Franch for burning at least that is what KK told CBI

 

[Deleted member 102539]

And when you sleuth the phone number, it's the same number as KK's cell phone. SR comes up along with KK. I ws thinking it was SR's number bfore it was KK's. MOO

KKL perhaps bought a phone from her colleague (SR out of medical sector), as she was "very needy"( it seems) of countless phones/burner phones.

 

[Hatch]

The Daily Mail.

'Nuff said.

MOO

Everybody wants to have the latest breaking news even if they have to sensationalize their headlines. Old news to WS .

 

[Kapua]

Nobody is out searching today and all schools are closed from the Springs to probably Cripple Creek. All main roads are closed, allot of power out, and the wind is blowing the snow at 70 pmh right now in the foothills of Colorado Springs.

sorry bad photo, too windy out. 96 pmh wind gust at the airport here!

Wow. That sounds brutal. Take heart, spring is on the way. And may the landfill searchers stay inside, warm and dry, until conditions improve.

 

[MsBetsy]

I tend to think a lot of the blood evidence was found in the bathroom because I think PF cleaned up there after his evil murder. Maybe even showered. KK could have done the same, but idk. Beating someone to death with a bat would be a really bloody scene. You’re up close and personal, so it HAD to have gotten all over his body, clothing, hair, shoes... It would make sense to shower, change clothes, bag the bloody ones up with the towels he used and throw them away. All JMO.

I think he did too. He may have also washed the body in the shower before placing it in the tote. Imo

 

[ab01]

It's in the search warrant.

Correct I wasn't disputing that.....

So is a FB post by a different Shelia Frazee.....

 

[Hatch]

I know we have some wonderful WS posters here that work in the medical field, I have a question, what do y'all think about all of KK's assistants being in the medical field?
For us non medical workers it is sort of bizarre SFMS.
I am open minded to it just being her circle of friends that happen to work in the medical field. But it is a little unnerving.

 

[Seattle1]

I just saw this on line. Wasn't sure how to post it. ANOTHER WOMAN????

No. I don't think there's a 2nd woman here -- phone call was with KK, and this poor woman another victim of KK.

I believe phone somehow traced to her either as party that previously used that number, or KK borrowed her phone (like she borrows vehicles).

Report says she's not POI.

MOO

 

[Hatch]

I'm against it in all cases because I don't want the government killing people. The justice system is so screwed up and so little is known about why people are the way they are, that it simply should never happen. IMO.

I respect your view.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I think he did too. He may have also washed the body in the shower before placing it in the tote. Imo

I think somebody else did too. I wonder who the other DNA profile/s belongs to. HMMMMMM.
MOO

 

[LietKynes]

Even if this third woman turns out to be completely unrelated to Kelsey's murder --- the timing of PF's calls is very strange.

What, was he just feeling "chatty" ?

IF this was his first murder, was he nervous and had to blab about inconsequential trivia ?
So, we know he called mommy, KK, and this 3rd person.
Did I miss anyone else ?

 

[MsBetsy]

Off topic, but the gov't. in CA for the last 20+ years is one reason I moved out.

I was talking with a woman who just returned from a vacation in Cuba, she related that crime there is virtually non-existent, and felt that was due to the swift and unforgiving punishment meted out. Not a fan of Cuba's gov't., but makes you go hmmmmmm.....

Yeah, that's because they shipped all their criminals to the US!

 

[Deleted member 102539]

She's not a newborn, but she is tiny. You can hardly see her in the video at Safeway either.
LE knows she was with PF because they spotted the baby on another camera. I think it was when PF took her out of the car. Imo

Okay then. I didn't say, little K wasn't there in the super market. I'm saying, I don't see her in the carrier at that time, when the surveillance camera got a view of PF. Would be an advantage, if LE would have prove of the baby being there around the time.

 

[LietKynes]

Self deleted.

Thinking about Kelsey's family having to endure this.
Thankful they have little baby K. , and am certain she's bringing them some joy !