CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #49 *ARREST*

[Mom24]

I think I get it. It's more of an intensive program focusing in one area while a BSN requires unrelated "core" courses. So the amount of clinical training would be the same. Imo

Yes. I will say I've seen people do the core courses (math, science, english, foreign language) for the first two years of a 4yr BSN program and then enter clinicals their Jr year and find out they can't do it. Which is why I've always felt that the ADN program is a good idea for the first year and then a transfer to a BSN program if someone finds they want the upward mobility of a 4 year degree. Nothing worse than someone spending all that time and money in a 4 year program to find out they can't cope with the rigors of nursing in their 3rd year.

 

[Mom24]

Hopefully. You see this type of thing a lot, especially in cases where famous people are involved:

“I don’t want to believe it, so I won’t.”

Maybe that cowboy code will kick in.

 

[Seattle1]

Hopefully. You see this type of thing a lot, especially in cases where famous people are involved:

“I don’t want to believe it, so I won’t.”

I believe this also speaks to how dangerous NPD+ individuals are in that they can keep their masks so secure to the outside, appearing as pillars and/or good guys in their community, without even a hint of their true personality towards their primary supply. Hence the "street angel house devil" acronym.

I can hear PF telling KB: "nobody will believe you."

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Court tomorrow......
March 11, 2019 - Monday

• PF Wrongful Death - Scheduling and Planning Conference - 1:30 pm

Case: 19-cv-00027-PAB-KMT

 

[ilovechili]

Yes, I recall that. Something about KB coming in every week. Early on I think there was a narrative trying to be put out there by both PF's family and his friends. He never spoke about her, but he put words in other people's mouths to create a backstory and I think the liquor store owner fell prey to that manipulative ploy as well. I always thought the liquor store owner made those statements to get free advertising and to have a few moments in the limelight.

I see it just as you do. I think it was intentional and planted. Just as PF hinted at suicide yet told LE she was doing okay, etc. (paraphrasing). Plant the hints but not come right out and say so... That is how the liquor store thing struck me.

I also, by the way, do not believe KK had one beer with her aunt

 

[MassGuy]

I believe this also speaks to how dangerous NPD+ individuals are in that they can keep their masks so secure to the outside, appearing as pillars and/or good guys in their community, without even a hint of their true personality towards their primary supply. Hence the "street angel house devil" acronym.

I can hear PF telling KB: "nobody will believe you."

Yup, context is everything, and a lot of people didn’t have the proper context to develop a full picture of this guy.

If these outsiders saw what KB saw, they would view PF very differently.

His mask did skip a few times, but these people weren’t there to see it.

Like that horrible hospital anecdote.

 

[ilovechili]

I believe this also speaks to how dangerous NPD+ individuals are in that they can keep their masks so secure to the outside, appearing as pillars and/or good guys in their community, without even a hint of their true personality towards their primary supply. Hence the "street angel house devil" acronym.

I can hear PF telling KB: "nobody will believe you."

I can too and that is exactly what they do. And they often do it with the victim's own family as well. Put on an entirely different face... In this case, it may not have happened re distance, etc. but it is quite common as well. There are hints of it, him taking her gun, etc.

ETA: BBM

 

[SandyQLS]

I didn't catch that before, that the bank thing happened before anybody knew she was missing. That right there does not look good!

I don't agree with your characterization of events.

The "bank thing" was on Dec 5 per the credit union manager named in the SW111 at the top of page 11.

PF met with Agent Torres on Dec 4 and turned his phone over to LE per SW111 page 7 near top of page.

CB had filed a missing person report on Dec 3 at 0944 per SW111 page 3 last paragraph.

hth

 

[Seattle1]

Very early on, there was a liquor store employee who claimed to be familiar with KB. She said nothing but nice things but it pointed it out that it was a liquor store. I wonder who and how that was pointed out or why she came out right off the bat... Part of the story trying to be weaved would be my guess.

It is quite common for certain types to project so my guess too is that everything PF said about KB or tried to plant or convince of is true of himself. That baby needs to never be anywhere near him or his family.

As far as a "good girl" from a guy like that, I take that to mean she was too much of a stuck up "goody two shoes".... Not some ribald cowgirl slamming whiskeys with them and telling dirty jokes...

just my own opinion and my own speculation.

Means nothing.

Colorado is one of those states where only beer can be purchased at grocer/retail but you must shop at "Liquor Store" for spirits, bottle of wine or "real beer."

I believe there were some law changes effective 2019 regarding beer sales but I believe you still have to purchase wine for dinner at the the "Liquor Store."

 

[ilovechili]

Yup, context is everything, and a lot of people didn’t have the proper context to develop a full picture of this guy.

If these outsiders saw what KB saw, they would view PF very differently.

His mask did skip a few times, but these people weren’t there to see it.

Like that horrible hospital anecdote.

The hospital thing is a great example imho. Because someone could take that as a man being so super into bonding and protective of his wife and baby and I am sorry, but maybe think, he is just a dufus who does not know any better. However, someone that sees it that way is missing the big picture. This baby was premature, in fact, in their family picture, she still looks pretty fragile. And staff knew the behavior for exactly what it was and what it meant... And I doubt we have heard the half of how he behaved...

jmo.

 

[Warwick7]

I don't agree with your characterization of events.

The "bank thing" was on Dec 5 per the credit union manager named in the SW111 at the top of page 11.

PF met with Agent Torres on Dec 4 and turned his phone over to LE per SW111 page 7 near top of page.

CB had filed a missing person report on Dec 3 at 0944 per SW111 page 3 last paragraph.

hth

I don't have a "characterization" of events. Someone posted the time frame PF and SR went to the bank, I felt it was okay to take them at their word.

 

[ilovechili]

Means nothing.

Colorado is one of the those states that where only beer can be purchased at grocer/retail but you must shop at "Liquor Store" for bottle of wine or "real beer."

I believe there were some law changes effective 2019 regarding beer sales but I believe you still have to purchase wine for dinner at the the "Liquor Store."

I figured too that she may have an occasional glass of wine. And I agree it means absolutely nothing.

It is just interesting in hindsight that with the story CC, PF, etc. have put out there about rehab and alcohol that it was one of the first things out and that the news had. As if someone pointed them in that direction almost.

I don't know, but I think we agree.

 

[?mysterian?]

Yes, I recall that. Something about KB coming in every week. Early on I think there was a narrative trying to be put out there by both PF's family and his friends. He never spoke about her, but he put words in other people's mouths to create a backstory and I think the liquor store owner fell prey to that manipulative ploy as well. I always thought the liquor store owner made those statements to get free advertising and to have a few moments in the limelight.

PF probably asked KB to go to the liquor store every time, as part of his master plan to trash KB.

 

[ilovechili]

PF probably asked KB to go to the liquor store every time, as part of his master plan to trash KB.

That would not surprise me one bit either. All transactions would show on her account. She lives in a bigger "city", get me this, get me that...

 

[Seattle1]

I don't agree with your characterization of events.

The "bank thing" was on Dec 5 per the credit union manager named in the SW111 at the top of page 11.

PF met with Agent Torres on Dec 4 and turned his phone over to LE per SW111 page 7 near top of page.

CB had filed a missing person report on Dec 3 at 0944 per SW111 page 3 last paragraph.

hth

I believe this timeline is also misleading relative to KB not missing until Dec 3.

CB requested a welfare check on KB November 25.

New information released on case of missing mother whose phone was last pinged in Idaho | East Idaho News

GOODING — Police released new information and a timeline Monday afternoon about a missing Colorado mother who may be in Idaho.

Kelsey Berreth, 29, was last seen on surveillance cameras at a Safeway grocery store in Woodland Park, Colorado on Nov. 22 at 12:27 p.m. She was shopping with her 1-year-old daughter and has not been seen since.

Cheryl Berreth, Berreth’s mom, called police on Nov. 25. Officers conducted a welfare check at her home and she, along with her purse, were missing. Woodland Park Police confirmed at Monday’s press conference that there were cold cinnamon rolls on the stove.

The same day officers conducted the welfare check, Berreth’s cell phone was pinged near Gooding at 5:13 p.m – over 800 miles from her home in Colorado. Steve Van Dinter, a Verizon spokesman, tells EastIdahoNews.com that the ping would be accurate within a mile of the location coordinates.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

When KB went to pick up the antacid for PF are there any record of him making calls/texts during that time to KK?

Or somebody else lying in wait.
MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I agree. PF used "Rehab" to promote the Hollywood definition, -- overindulgence by choice. Nobody chooses depression. MOO

I so agree Seattle1, and I feel like PF contributed greatly to KB's exhaustion and stress purposely. JMO

 

[Ccging]

Very early on, there was a liquor store employee who claimed to be familiar with KB. She said nothing but nice things but it pointed it out that it was a liquor store. I wonder who and how that was pointed out or why she came out right off the bat... Part of the story trying to be weaved would be my guess.

It is quite common for certain types to project so my guess too is that everything PF said about KB or tried to plant or convince of is true of himself. That baby needs to never be anywhere near him or his family.

As far as a "good girl" from a guy like that, I take that to mean she was too much of a stuck up "goody two shoes".... Not some ribald cowgirl slamming whiskeys with them and telling dirty jokes...

just my own opinion and my own speculation.

Purely IMO but it would not surprise me if PF sent KB to the liquor store to pick up alcohol for him on multiple occasions and now will try to point out that she frequented the liquor store to try to back up the lies he was telling CC about her having issues with alcohol.

 

[ilovechili]

Purely IMO but it would not surprise me if PF sent KB to the liquor store to pick up alcohol for him on multiple occasions and now will try to point out that she frequented the liquor store to try to back up the lies he was telling CC about her having issues with alcohol.

Would not surprise me one bit. It would not surprise me either if he was a constant "cash" user. Known one or two to hide their habits. Eons ago thank goodness.

 

[skycountry]

Awesome post!
But what is this about phone location showing PF at RS late on November 22nd????

It was in the AW information about his phone records, I think it stated Guffey area. I am looking for in now.

eta, it may have stated Guffey or Guffey area.