CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #49 *ARREST*

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  • #261
So early on there were statements made by CB that PF had mentioned that maybe KB had another phone. Does anyone remember that?

I wondered if PF was fishing for an answer from CB, I mean why ask CB if KB had another phone. My thinking is he controlled the phone on his plan, but if she had another phone he would be unable to track her. Just thinking out loud and is jmo
 
  • #262
I believe his phone had a cracked screen ( per search warrant) when he gave it to LE. Imagine that. No wonder he surrendered it. Didn't think they could glean anything from it in that condition.
MOO
He’s obviously ignorant as to how phone pings work, but I doubt he would have thought a cracked screen could prevent a phone from being downloaded.

Unless he thought the phone itself was destroyed, and the cracked screen indicated that.
 
  • #263
So early on there were statements made by CB that PF had mentioned that maybe KB had another phone. Does anyone remember that?

I wondered if PF was fishing for an answer from CB, I mean why ask CB if KB had another phone. My thinking is he controlled the phone on his plan, but if she had another phone he would be unable to track her. Just thinking out loud and is jmo
That, or he was trying to mislead CB.

If KB has another phone, she could still be out there alive, communicating with people.
 
  • #264
I wondered with her facility stay for depression and anxiety for two weeks in August, and then her mothers visit 2 months later in October, if she was starting to see the light about her relationship with PF. That it was going nowhere, & was unhealthy. Maybe she, and CB talked during her visit and possibly KB was leaving the area, and PF. I can see where this would enrage him, as his control over her would be gone.

No, she did nothing to deserve this, a bright light needlessly gone.
I believe this was definitely beginning to happen. IMO
 
  • #265
Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018

1 – 4 a.m.:
Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.

1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:18 a.m.
KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation

1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.

1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)

3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)

3:34 a.m. PF calls KB
and they hold a 13 second conversation.

3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans

3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home

3:53 a.m. PF text to KB:
Ok thanks

Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. KB also says that she and PF and baby are planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone quickly to change baby K's diaper.

9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?

Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.

9:37 a.m. KB text to PF:
Call us when you wake up

9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.

12:02 p.m.
KB is seen pulling into the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the car seat carrier and Baby K from the passenger's side.

12:05 p.m
KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.

12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second reciept had only the floral purchase.

12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the groceries and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.

Sometime Between 12:30 and 1:00 PM KB's neighbor was leaving her home to go to her family Thanksgiving and saw 3 vehicles (2 red trucks and KB's car) parked at KB's house. One red truck was parked perpendicular to the other two vehicles, blocking them in. Sam Kraemer on Twitter

12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m.
PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.

12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.

12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.

12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some

12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.

12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.

12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.

1:24 p.m. A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.

1:25 p.m. PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.

3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.

3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.

4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home**
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector.**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679. PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls the 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.

9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.

11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.

The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24

Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Tippy's existing timeline of events :)
 
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  • #266
Here is my deal: followed too many cases on this forum where the defense has used everyone’s work on here to benefit their client and by extension their careers. I am pretty damn sure that PF’s “attorneys” and by extension KKL’s lawyers are watching what we find and coming up with ways to defend their client. The way to counteract this is by coming up with a concise timeline. The prosecution must prove that KB was dead before KKL was there. I hate her but they made that evil deal with her. His defense is going to say she did it. She was jealous and horrible and took upon herself to do it. So far they have no body (and as sad is this is to think about there won’t be much left to do anything other than bury)so it comes down to a timeline. It has to be presented this way to a jury. It has to be a linear presentation. I am confident the prosecution would never have made a deal if they couldn’t prove to a jury’s satisfaction when KB was killed and where both PF and KKL were when KB was murdered. They have to do it from this way imo. Sorry to preach but I’ve seen too many cases and been a part of too many (personal and on this forum) where the jurors get confused.
 
  • #267
I thought she was there for 2 weeks.. Did I hear that wrong?

I understood it as a 10-11 day course in a program held in CA facility that specialized in stress/depression management and is accepted by her religious affliation. MOO

The hearing on February 19th stated one day that Sam guy tweeted it

Reportedly, KB requested a week off from work to be treated for extreme exhaustion, and visited a clinic located in California, allegedly affiliated with her Church. While clinic said to offer extended treatment programs, there's absolutely no evidence that KB was there for more than her day appointment.

PF's allegations citing KB's extended rehab visits to her employer were not consistent with their records, as noted in AA and testimony.

I believe PF responsible for perpetuating these rumors.

MOO
 
  • #268
Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018

1 – 4 a.m.:
Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.

1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:18 a.m.
KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation

1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.

1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)

3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)

3:34 a.m. PF calls KB
and they hold a 13 second conversation.

3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans

3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home

3:53 a.m. PF text to KB:
Ok thanks

Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. She also tells CB they were planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone to change baby K's diaper.

9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?

Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.

9:37 a.m. KB text to PF:
Call us when you wake up

9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.

12:02 p.m.
KB is seen pulling to the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the carseat carrier and Baby K fromt eh passenger's side.

12:05 p.m
KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.

12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second reciept had only the floral purchase.

12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the grocery and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.

12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m.
PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.

12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.

12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.

12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some

12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.

12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.

12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.

1:24 p.m. A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.

1:25 p.m. PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.

3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.

3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.

4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home**
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector.**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679. PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls the 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.

9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.

11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.

The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24

Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

Tippy's existing timeline of events :)
This is excellent!

It’s so helpful to see all that information in one place. You can almost see the murder and subsequent deception, unfold in real time.
 
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  • #269
Reportedly, KB requested a week off from work to be treated for extreme exhaustion, and visited a clinic located in California, allegedly affiliated with her Church. While clinic said to offer extended treatment programs, there's absolutely no evidence that KB was there for more than her day appointment.

PF's allegations citing KB's extended rehab visits to her employer were not consistent with their records, as noted in AA and testimony.

I believe PF responsible for perpetuating these rumors.

MOO
So we don't have factual confirmation of KB ever participating in any program for stress/exhaustion? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
  • #270
Yup, context is everything, and a lot of people didn’t have the proper context to develop a full picture of this guy.

If these outsiders saw what KB saw, they would view PF very differently.

His mask did skip a few times, but these people weren’t there to see it.

Like that horrible hospital anecdote.

It is interesting that he only showed his true self to women, never did any man see it.
 
  • #271
Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018

1 – 4 a.m.:
Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.

1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:18 a.m.
KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation

1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.

1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)

3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)

3:34 a.m. PF calls KB
and they hold a 13 second conversation.

3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans

3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home

3:53 a.m. PF text to KB:
Ok thanks

Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. KB also says that she and PF and baby are planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone quickly to change baby K's diaper.

9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?

Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.

9:37 a.m. KB text to PF:
Call us when you wake up

9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.

12:02 p.m.
KB is seen pulling into the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the car seat carrier and Baby K from the passenger's side.

12:05 p.m
KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.

12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second reciept had only the floral purchase.

12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the groceries and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.

12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m.
PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.

12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.

12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.

12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some

12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.

12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.

12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.

1:24 p.m. A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.

1:25 p.m. PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.

3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.

3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.

4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home**
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector.**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679. PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls the 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.

9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.

11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.

The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24

Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

Tippy's existing timeline of events :)

Outstanding! Great work!

ETA: I asked the mods to please include this at the beginning of each thread. Hope it works! It's a great reference.
 
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  • #272
It is interesting that he only showed his true self to women, never did any man see it.
They might have, but perhaps they are unwilling to talk.

His interactions with women would be very different than his behavior around men.

Men would probably only see it if they saw him interacting with a woman.
 
  • #273
It is interesting that he only showed his true self to women, never did any man see it.
PF is a true coward on the inside. He played his 'role' to the good ole' boys, and preyed and abused on those he perceived as the weaker sex.
MOO
 
  • #274
Any guy who calls me to "clean up his mess", especially an apartment where he killed his GF, Mother of his child, CLICK! 911 on Speed Dial!

I still can't believe that KK got involved in this situation. There must be something more....
 
  • #275
Detailed Timeline of November 22, 2018

1 – 4 a.m.:
Investigators found that there were at least seven contacts made between Frazee and Berreth’s cell phones between these hours, including a four-minute phone call that happened around 1:42 a.m.

1:17 a.m. KB calls PF he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:18 a.m.
KB calls PF a second time and he doesn't answer (missed call)

1:20 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 16 second conversation

1:42 a.m. KB calls PF and they hold a 4 minute and 32 second conversation.

1:50 a.m KB buys PF Tums Antacid at Walmart (based on a receipt found in her truck)

3:32 a.m. KB calls PF and he doesn't answer (missed call)

3:34 a.m. PF calls KB
and they hold a 13 second conversation.

3:37 a.m. PF text to KB: I'll come down after I do chores and (Baby K) can go with me to Walmart and the bank so you can get a nap. Then we can figure out our plans

3:53 a.m. KB text to PF: Ok. We're home

3:53 a.m. PF text to KB:
Ok thanks

Approx. 9:00 a.m. KB speaks to her mom on the phone. KB tells CB about checking on cattle with PF the night before and getting him medicine and that she got home around 4 am. KB also says that she and PF and baby are planning to go out for Thanksgiving Dinner but has to hang up the phone quickly to change baby K's diaper.

9:15 a.m. KB text to PF: Want to go out to eat?

Approx. 9:15 a.m. CB calls KB back and they talk briefly about Christmas gift lists and other similar topics.

9:37 a.m. KB text to PF:
Call us when you wake up

9:40 a.m. PF calls KB and they have a 3 minute and 28 second conversation.

12:02 p.m.
KB is seen pulling into the Safeway parking lot in her red Chevy Silverado Truck and removing the car seat carrier and Baby K from the passenger's side.

12:05 p.m
KB is seen on video entering Safeway with her daughter in a baby carrier/car seat.

12:22-12:24 p.m. KB is seen on video checking out her purchases at Safeway (flowers and dip ingredients). She needed assistance to get a poinsettia plant from floral and therefore had 2 receipts. The first receipt had food items and the second reciept had only the floral purchase.

12:27 p.m. KB and her daughter are captured on a surveillance camera at the Safeway in Woodland Park leaving the store. She is seen on video loading the groceries and baby K into her red truck and driving out the west end of the parking lot.

12:31 p.m PF calls KB and they have a 35 second conversation*
12:33 p.m.
PF calls KB again and the call lasts 8 seconds*
*Cell Phone data show both PF and KB were in the vicinity of KB's home during the 2 above calls.

12:36 p.m. PF's red Toyota Tacoma was seen on video from William's Log Furniture turn onto North Fairview Street from Hwy 24 and continue Northbound on Fairview. The truck had a white box object in the bed.

12:37 p.m KB's truck is observed on video taken from William's Log Furniture driving Westbound on Hwy 24 and turning onto North Fairview St.

12:41 p.m. KB text to PF: I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some

12:44 p.m. PF's red Toyota with the white box in the bed item is seen on William's Log Furniture video driving Southbound on North Fairview towards the HWY 24 intersection.

12:44-12:50 p.m PF is seen on video at the Woodland Park ENT Bank ATM. He made 4 transactions during this visit. 3 deposits and one withdrawal. Both the baby and baby carrier are visible in the ATM video with PF at 12:47 p.m.

12:54 – 1:17 p.m.: Frazee was captured on surveillance video at the Walmart in Woodland Park carrying a baby carrier with a blanket similar to the one seen in the Safeway footage. Investigators wrote in the affidavit that they believe their 1-year-old daughter was in the carrier at the time.

1:24 p.m. A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.

1:25 p.m. PF's red Toyota is seen on William's Log Furniture video turning onto North Fairview from HWY 24 and traveling Northbound. The truck appears to have some kind of crate in the bed.

3:13 p.m. PF's bank account shows a transaction at Walmart.

3:36 p.m.: That same neighbor’s surveillance camera again captures images of a person that matches Frazee’s description at Berreth’s home. Frazee called his mother, Sheila, and Kenney at this time, according to his phone records. This is the beginning of when Frazee allegedly started carrying out his “scheme,” as the affidavit calls it, of using his and Berreth’s phones to try and “distract law enforcement, distort the actual date of [Berreth’s] appearance, and separate himself as a suspect in a murder investigation.”
Kenney told investigators that Frazee called her and told her to come to Colorado because she “had a mess to clean up.” She told investigators that she understood that meant that Berreth had been killed.

4:24 p.m. PF makes a call to a number ending in 6021 and his cell phone connects to the tower near KB's home**
4:37 p.m. PF's calls a number ending in 6679. PF cell again connects to the Woodland Park tower near KB's home but in the east facing sector.**
4:43 p.m. PF receives a call on his phone from the number ending in 6679. PF's phone connects to a tower near Divide, CO, and a sector facing west along route 24. The call last 141 seconds.**
4:50 p.m. PF calls the 6679 number back and talks for 251 seconds.**
**KB's phone was also tracked and from approx 3:30-4:50 KB's phone moves along the same route as PF's phone. Both phones appear to move along Route 24 in the direction from KB's home toward PF's home. Due to the time delay of when phone warrants were issued only "failed attempt" calls were recorded. These are probably calls that failed to connect or dropped due to poor reception.

9:54, 10:03, 10:15 & 10:48 PM: Both Frazee’s and Berreth’s cell phones were connected with cell towers near Cripple Creek, traveling in the same direction and similar distances from the towers. “This would indicate the phones were likely traveling together,” Frazee’s affidavit says. The area where the phones connected is in the direction of Robert Slagle's Guffey, CO residence.

11:11 p.m. PF's phone is recorded 3 miles south of a Florissant cell tower 2 miles south of his residence. There is nothing to indicate PF and KB's phones ever separated during this 2.5 hour window.

The affidavit says the two cell phones stayed together for the entirety of Nov. 22-24

Sources:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

Tippy's existing timeline of events :)

Could have PF’s texts to KB been any less involved or cold? I hope PF burns in hell and as far as I’m concerned whoever (other than attorneys-everyone is entitled to a defense) supports him. His whackadoo family, weirdo family friends who seem to be more interested in telling us that this “good ole country boy” is getting a bad rap. No. He’s a home grown loser sociopath. If they want to take credit for anything. They can take credit for that. In fact, they’ve earned it.
 
  • #276
Any guy who calls me to "clean up his mess", especially an apartment where he killed his GF, Mother of his child, CLICK! 911 on Speed Dial!

I still can't believe that KK got involved in this situation. There must be something more....

I think she wanted what PF wanted, but simply wasn’t willing to kill Kelsey herself.

You don’t make three attempts to kill someone, unless some part of you wants it to happen.

He decided to ultimately kill Kelsey himself, but her job was to clean up afterwards.

They had to have had some sort of a deal.

This is the biggest thing I think she is lying about.
 
  • #277
Thanks all. I just realized after making the Nov 22 timeline that I don't have what time the neighbor claimed to see all 3 vehicles at KB's-- does anyone have a reference for that exact time frame? I'll edit the post to add that if I find it in time.

ETA: Found it. Neighbor saw all three vehicles sometime between 12:30 and 1 PM: Sam Kraemer on Twitter

ETA2: Please let me know if there is anything else left out. I only used one document and Tippy's timeline as sources to create the above.
 
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  • #278
Any guy who calls me to "clean up his mess", especially an apartment where he killed his GF, Mother of his child, CLICK! 911 on Speed Dial!

I still can't believe that KK got involved in this situation. There must be something more....

I think we're on the verge of discovering new (low)levels of mental acuity in adults. It can't be all poor decision-making, can it?
 
  • #279
@MsBetsy
The Sweet potatoes and pecans text is on page 25 of this document: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-111 Search Warrant.pdf

Now that I look at it I think this was KB texting because of the timing.

12:41 "I bought some sweet potatoes in case you wanted sweet potato casserole but I forgot to get pecans so if you want some you should get some"

I believe that is the last text she ever sent.

MOO.

If KB was in fact the one who sent it.
 
  • #280
nvm
 
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