CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #50 *ARREST*

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  • #201
Or a baseball bat.

Or they could have just called in a nurse for PF to give him some kind of medication she has access to--you know, one that was not so "in love" with him...
But aren't many of kk's details backed up by evidence ?

Not going to argue with you about it. I await the evidence of the things prior to and during the murder. After is fairly well corroborated although I think there is more than we know...

I also am hardly the only one that feels that way and it is hardly a minority. In fact I think sometimes it is the majority... Unless you can give me the answers to the questions I have and back them up, I will leave it at that...

To each their own.
 
  • #202
But aren't many of kk's details backed up by evidence ?
Yes they are. I absolutely expect her to have a great amount of detail, because I would have expected PF to tell her every little detail.

He solicited her to commit murder on three occasions.

He told her she had “a mess to clean up.”

She cleaned up that mess, traveled with him to pick up Kelsey’s body, and watched as he burned it.

She then traveled back to Idaho, helping PF commit his deception.

He would have absolutely no fear in telling her what happened.

KK didn’t do it, so he had to.

And it was messy.
 
  • #203
Not sure her Sonic run has much to do with her size as it does her lack of humanity.
I completely agree here. And am now once again obsessed with cheesy tater tots but I will try to hold back.

On the looks...I think the reason I find myself being less than charitable on the appearance aspect is that it so obviously seems to be so important to HER...and then KK drives 800 miles to clean up her target's (let's be real) blood from all over this inside of said target's own home she shares with her infant daughter..and then KK goes to chow down at a Sonic.

It's just gross. Vomitrocious. Only a truly inhumane, inhuman pig could do that...male or female. And let's not forget she went to a human bonfire later.

Just sick.
 
  • #204
I completely agree here. And am now once again obsessed with cheesy tater tots but I will try to hold back.

On the looks...I think the reason I find myself being less than charitable on the appearance aspect is that it so obviously seems to be so important to HER...and then KK drives 800 miles to clean up her target's (let's be real) blood from all over this inside of said target's own home she shares with her infant daughter..and then KK goes to chow down at a Sonic.

It's just gross. Vomitrocious. Only a truly inhumane, inhuman pig could do that...male or female. And let's not forget she went to a human bonfire later.

Just sick.
When I call KK a cow, I do feel a bit of remorse. Cow shaming isn't nice.
 
  • #205
Yes they are. I absolutely expect her to have a great amount of detail, because I would have expected PF to tell her every little detail.

He solicited her to commit murder on three occasions.

He told her she had “a mess to clean up.”

She cleaned up that mess, traveled with him to pick up Kelsey’s body, and watched as he burned it.

She then traveled back to Idaho, helping PF commit his deception.

He would have absolutely no fear in telling her what happened.

KK didn’t do it, so he had to.

And it was messy.


Yah I agree: and absolutely she had reason to know those details, bc PF wanted to make sure she knew what to say and what not to say in case crap hit the fan.

Unfortunately for him they made too many obvious mistakes and when the feds came knocking she squealed like a pig.

I bet he's kicking himself now for telling her everything he did!
 
  • #206
I completely agree here. And am now once again obsessed with cheesy tater tots but I will try to hold back.

On the looks...I think the reason I find myself being less than charitable on the appearance aspect is that it so obviously seems to be so important to HER...and then KK drives 800 miles to clean up her target's (let's be real) blood from all over this inside of said target's own home she shares with her infant daughter..and then KK goes to chow down at a Sonic.

It's just gross. Vomitrocious. Only a truly inhumane, inhuman pig could do that...male or female. And let's not forget she went to a human bonfire later.

Just sick.
and ate two pieces of pizza following the 'bonfire' iirc????:confused:
 
  • #207
Yes they are. I absolutely expect her to have a great amount of detail, because I would have expected PF to tell her every little detail.

He solicited her to commit murder on three occasions.

He told her she had “a mess to clean up.”

She cleaned up that mess, traveled with him to pick up Kelsey’s body, and watched as he burned it.

She then traveled back to Idaho, helping PF commit his deception.

He would have absolutely no fear in telling her what happened.

KK didn’t do it, so he had to.

And it was messy.
I do believe there will be further arrests as this investigation concludes. I really do.
 
  • #208
I completely agree here. And am now once again obsessed with cheesy tater tots but I will try to hold back.

On the looks...I think the reason I find myself being less than charitable on the appearance aspect is that it so obviously seems to be so important to HER...and then KK drives 800 miles to clean up her target's (let's be real) blood from all over this inside of said target's own home she shares with her infant daughter..and then KK goes to chow down at a Sonic.

It's just gross. Vomitrocious. Only a truly inhumane, inhuman pig could do that...male or female. And let's not forget she went to a human bonfire later.

Just sick.
I totally agree! She has no humanity and one heck of an iron stomach! I would have tossed my cookies when I opened the door and saw the blood.
 
  • #209
I do believe there will be further arrests as this investigation concludes. I really do.
I truly hope so, but I’m not convinced there will be.

It all depends if the evidence is there, even though I genuinely believe there were crimes committed.

I think there’s possible obstruction as far as his friend goes.
 
  • #210
Yah I agree and absolutely she had reason to know those details, bc PF wanted to make sure she knew what to say and what not to say in case crap hit the fan.

Unfortunately for him they made too many obvious mistakes and when the feds came knocking she squealed like a pig.

I bet he's kicking himself now for telling her everything he did!
Anyone else who gets arrested in connection with this is going to kick themselves for not making a deal sooner. I think SF and others believe if they plead the 5th they can't get in trouble. That's not a get out of jail free card.
 
  • #211
I truly hope so, but I’m not convinced there will be.

It all depends if the evidence is there, even though I genuinely believe there were crimes committed.

I think there’s possible obstruction as far as his friend goes.
I am sure SF will eventually face charges and I have no doubt that anyone else who helped these two will face stiffer penalties as a result of the deal they had to make with KK.
 
  • #212
Anyone else who gets arrested in connection with this is going to kick themselves for not making a deal sooner. I think SF and others believe if they plead the 5th they can't get in trouble. That's not a get out of jail free card.
The only way that strategy will work (pleading the 5th), is if PF is the only one who knows the extent of their involvement.

Hopefully they can make a case using other means, because we know PF ain’t going to talk.
 
  • #213
and ate two pieces of pizza following the 'bonfire' iirc????:confused:
WOW...I forgot all about that part. Ick.

ew! I feel sick
 
  • #214
Yes they are. I absolutely expect her to have a great amount of detail, because I would have expected PF to tell her every little detail.

He solicited her to commit murder on three occasions.

He told her she had “a mess to clean up.”

She cleaned up that mess, traveled with him to pick up Kelsey’s body, and watched as he burned it.

She then traveled back to Idaho, helping PF commit his deception.

He would have absolutely no fear in telling her what happened.

KK didn’t do it, so he had to.

And it was messy.

I perceive KKL as the type to ASK for every little detail of the murder--both to relish them and to "get the goods" on PF "just in case" their brilliant plan and execution weren't quite foolproof. I perceive PF as both stupid enough and arrogant enough to provide her with the details. It's a win-win, sort of, for KKL, at least for someone who is an accessory to murder (which is how I perceive her). MOO.
 
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I completely agree here. And am now once again obsessed with cheesy tater tots but I will try to hold back.

On the looks...I think the reason I find myself being less than charitable on the appearance aspect is that it so obviously seems to be so important to HER...and then KK drives 800 miles to clean up her target's (let's be real) blood from all over this inside of said target's own home she shares with her infant daughter..and then KK goes to chow down at a Sonic.

It's just gross. Vomitrocious. Only a truly inhumane, inhuman pig could do that...male or female. And let's not forget she went to a human bonfire later.

Just sick.

Well said. I would like to add to your post and say sadly, we have seen many men do this. She is the harder one to understand and is far more unusual. It does not mean we can understand the men that do it either, just that what she did and her part (just what we know even) is almost unheard of. He unfortunately is like another CW, SP, DP, and on and on and on. And that is not to say no woman has ever murdered nor that any woman has never done such things but it is far less common. What is she? Wtf is she?

You said it better than I can. They both attended supposedly a human bonfire. She cleaned up the blood of the one she wanted gone just as badly. They probably did a jig. They make me sick.

jmo.
 
  • #217
where do you get pizza at the ranch? Does Dominoes leave it at the locked gate during the smelly fire? Do you have to make a frozen Walmart pizza in the oven?
um..mommy probably made it for them
 
  • #218
Well said. I would like to add to your post and say sadly, we have seen many men do this. She is the harder one to understand and is far more unusual. It does not mean we can understand the men that do it either, just that what she did and her part (just what we know even) is almost unheard of. He unfortunately is like another CW, SP, DP, and on and on and on. And that is not to say no woman has ever murdered nor that any woman has never done such things but it is far less common. What is she? Wtf is she?

You said it better than I can. They both attended supposedly a human bonfire. She cleaned up the blood of the one she wanted gone just as badly. They probably did a jig. They make me sick.

jmo.
honestly..they prob had a few beers after such a busy day and watched "the fire"
 
  • #219
I perceive KKL as the type to ASK for every little detail of the murder--both to relish them and to "get the goods" on PF "just in case" their brilliant plan and execution weren't quite foolproof. I perceive PF as both stupid enough and arrogant enough to provide her with the details. It's a win-win, sort of, for KKL, at least for someone who is an accessory to murder (which is how I perceive her). MOO.

I agree I always shy away from the argument: It absolutely didn't happen that way. No way, it doesn't make sense.

Well: LE says it happened that way, And I'm not sure I have enough information to make such claims against them.

IMO at that point its merely guessing and hoping that LE ends up being wrong so that the person can say: SEE I told you so
 
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  • #220
I know we have sleuthed the phone calls but don’t know how in depth we have gotten here or what I may have missed in threads but a thought just popped in my head so bear with me. If this has been discussed scroll on by.

11/25 5:18 KB texts PF and asks “Do you EVEN love me?”

11/25 5:20 PF texts KB back “Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn’t? So to answer your question yes I do”

11/25 5:21 PF calls KB and gets message phone has expired

11/25 5:28 PF receives call from Suzette Ruzner (aka KK burner phone)

Maybe I’m just coming in late here (most likely) but initially I thought PF was just texting himself to KB’s phone I didn’t realize at this point (because I didn’t examine dates and times) that KK is already in Idaho with KB’s phone asking PF if he EVEN loves her. His response is interesting to say the least. I can’t help but think these last texts had dual meaning and purpose among the monsters.
 
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