CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #50 *ARREST*

[ilovechili]

um..mommy probably made it for them

How do we know these two sickos did not spend the night at the townhouse? According to some docs and her story, they had to go back and get his vehicle... I am sure they have delivery there...

Although I also have no problem believing she was welcome at ma's...

PF cooking though, nah, not so much. Maybe a pizza. He cooked a frozen one, brought the nurse some Ibuprofen (she does not carry it??) and thanked her for her efforts and attending his bonfire...

 

[MassGuy]

I know we have sleuthed the phone calls but don’t know how in depth we have gotten here or what I may have missed in threads but a thought just popped in my head so bear with me. If this has been discussed scroll on by.

11/25 5:18 KB texts PF and asks “Do you EVEN love me?”

11/25 5:20 PF texts KB back “Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn’t? So to answer your question yes I do”

11/25 5:21 PF calls KB and gets message phone has expired

11/25 5:28 PF receives call from Suzette Ruzner (aka KK burner phone)

Maybe I’m just coming in late here (most likely) but initially I thought PF was just texting himself to KB’s phone I didn’t realize at this point (because I didn’t examine dates and times) that KK is already in Idaho asking PF if he EVEN loves her. His response is interesting to say the least. I can’t help but think these last texts had dual meaning and purpose among the monsters.

I don’t think there’s a dual meaning.

I just think it was a pathetically transparent effort to paint KB as being under emotional stress, so he could sell the suicide story.

It’s a text interaction that I would expect to see in a Lifetime movie.

 

[travelbug]

I truly hope so, but I’m not convinced there will be.

It all depends if the evidence is there, even though I genuinely believe there were crimes committed.

I think there’s possible obstruction as far as his friend goes.

Too bad there isn't a law against complacent & complicit...

 

[k-mac]

where do you get pizza at the ranch? Does Dominoes leave it at the locked gate during the smelly fire? Do you have to make a frozen Walmart pizza in the oven?

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its all just so very..... repulsive.

 

[ilovechili]

I know we have sleuthed the phone calls but don’t know how in depth we have gotten here or what I may have missed in threads but a thought just popped in my head so bear with me. If this has been discussed scroll on by.

11/25 5:18 KB texts PF and asks “Do you EVEN love me?”

11/25 5:20 PF texts KB back “Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn’t? So to answer your question yes I do”

11/25 5:21 PF calls KB and gets message phone has expired

11/25 5:28 PF receives call from Suzette Ruzner (aka KK burner phone)

Maybe I’m just coming in late here (most likely) but initially I thought PF was just texting himself to KB’s phone I didn’t realize at this point (because I didn’t examine dates and times) that KK is already in Idaho asking PF if he EVEN loves her. His response is interesting to say the least. I can’t help but think these last texts had dual meaning and purpose among the monsters.

Oh wow. Bend over backwards for her?? Meaning KK and double meaning?? I have to say, that never ever crossed my mind... This may be the best thought I have seen throughout... He knew who was texting, she knew who was texting!

 

[ilovechili]

its all just so very..... repulsive.

I know I should not say it but clearly by her own story her appetite was affected in no way that day...

 

[Ccging]

I know we have sleuthed the phone calls but don’t know how in depth we have gotten here or what I may have missed in threads but a thought just popped in my head so bear with me. If this has been discussed scroll on by.

11/25 5:18 KB texts PF and asks “Do you EVEN love me?”

11/25 5:20 PF texts KB back “Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn’t? So to answer your question yes I do”

11/25 5:21 PF calls KB and gets message phone has expired

11/25 5:28 PF receives call from Suzette Ruzner (aka KK burner phone)

Maybe I’m just coming in late here (most likely) but initially I thought PF was just texting himself to KB’s phone I didn’t realize at this point (because I didn’t examine dates and times) that KK is already in Idaho asking PF if he EVEN loves her. His response is interesting to say the least. I can’t help but think these last texts had dual meaning and purpose among the monsters.

PF got a message KB’s phone had “expired”? Would that be like a not accepting calls message verses her voicemail?

ETA: I’ve never called someone’s phone and gotten a message it’s expired. Weird words if PF said that, IMO

 

[Snowsnake]

When I call KK a cow, I do feel a bit of remorse. Cow shaming isn't nice.

No it is not and yes she is. All that has been said and done and then she went to Vegas to party.

 

[acutename]

I know we have sleuthed the phone calls but don’t know how in depth we have gotten here or what I may have missed in threads but a thought just popped in my head so bear with me. If this has been discussed scroll on by.

11/25 5:18 KB texts PF and asks “Do you EVEN love me?”

11/25 5:20 PF texts KB back “Why would I bend over backwards and stand behind you thru everything if I didn’t? So to answer your question yes I do”

11/25 5:21 PF calls KB and gets message phone has expired

11/25 5:28 PF receives call from Suzette Ruzner (aka KK burner phone)

Maybe I’m just coming in late here (most likely) but initially I thought PF was just texting himself to KB’s phone I didn’t realize at this point (because I didn’t examine dates and times) that KK is already in Idaho asking PF if he EVEN loves her. His response is interesting to say the least. I can’t help but think these last texts had dual meaning and purpose among the monsters.

interesting Q if they were sending pre-written texts to make the now fictional KB appear despondent, or if they were communicating to each other. makes you wonder what the "everything" was if it was not KB's murder. there are things we do not know about KK IMO.

 

[ab01]

Oh wow. Bend over backwards for her?? Meaning KK and double meaning?? I have to say, that never ever crossed my mind... This may be the best thought I have seen throughout... He knew who was texting, she knew who was texting!

Who knew PF was such a wordsmith , maybe we have misjudged his level of brilliance.

 

[bonjoviblonde]

where do you get pizza at the ranch? Does Dominoes leave it at the locked gate during the smelly fire? Do you have to make a frozen Walmart pizza in the oven?

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It's not delivery, it's DiGiorno.

 

[Trocroc9]

interesting Q if they were sending pre-written texts to make the now fictional KB appear despondent, or if they were communicating to each other. makes you wonder what the "everything" was if it was not KB's murder. there are things we do not know about KK IMO.

Right! I just couldn’t help thinking it was some kind of message to each other while it still fit the “supportive and caring” boyfriend to KB. The fact that KK chose to say do you EVEN love me shows she was trying to win his love and approval. His response is supporting and backing something she did.. maybe referring to the cleanup or maybe more.

 

[acutename]

PF got a message KB’s phone had “expired”? Would that be like a not accepting calls message verses her voicemail?

ETA: I’ve never called someone’s phone and gotten a message it’s expired. Weird words if PF said that, IMO

in some other post, people remarked that "expired" was an unusual choice of words. since KB's phone was on PF/SF's plan, service would only end if they canceled or failed to pay for it. Is there a Verizon message sent if a phone is destroyed? I would think that the "network" does not "know" if a phone is turned off/ destroyed/ out of range/ in a bunker/ not charged, , etc. and there would not be a specific message. I thought KB's family said that when they tried to call her, it went to voice mail.

 

[Trocroc9]

Oh wow. Bend over backwards for her?? Meaning KK and double meaning?? I have to say, that never ever crossed my mind... This may be the best thought I have seen throughout... He knew who was texting, she knew who was texting!

Thanks chili!

 

[acutename]

It's not delivery, it's DiGiorno.

if it was not delivered or picked up, some one cooked it which brings up a few more Qs.

 

[Oregon]

PF got a message KB’s phone had “expired”? Would that be like a not accepting calls message verses her voicemail?

ETA: I’ve never called someone’s phone and gotten a message it’s expired. Weird words if PF said that, IMO

According to search warrants and MaF, PF was paying for KB’s cell phone. I took expired to mean that the service on the phone had permanently ended. PF did not want to pay for the phone of his murdered victim and probably could not comprehend what cancelling her phone would indicate. He only thought about himself (his money). Would like to know if PF cancelled the service.

His comment about standing always behind her is quite the play on words too.

 

[MemPat]

I do believe there will be further arrests as this investigation concludes. I really do.

Someone older.

 

[MemPat]

I perceive KKL as the type to ASK for every little detail of the murder--both to relish them and to "get the goods" on PF "just in case" their brilliant plan and execution weren't quite foolproof. I perceive PF as both stupid enough and arrogant enough to provide her with the details. It's a win-win, sort of, for KKL, at least for someone who is an accessory to murder (which is how I perceive her). MOO.

Such a love story between PF and KK, each one working hard to get the goods on the other.

 

[MemPat]

where do you get pizza at the ranch? Does Dominoes leave it at the locked gate during the smelly fire? Do you have to make a frozen Walmart pizza in the oven?

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I bet Mama is a lovely hostess.

 

[acutename]

Right! I just couldn’t help thinking it was some kind of message to each other while it still fit the “supportive and caring” boyfriend to KB. The fact that KK chose to say do you EVEN love me shows she was trying to win his love and approval. His response is supporting and backing something she did.. maybe referring to the cleanup or maybe more.

I keep thinking that with all her driving and carrying out PF's "orders," for whatever reason, KK was unhappy and she was very willing to run away from what we see as a stable life with a decent career and a family. most people have said she was conniving and self-serving to finally give LE a statement, but I am amazed that she managed to do that because it is a complete 180 from what she was doing up until that point. she seems, previously, to have been brain washed. every poster here has said that they would not do what she did for anyone ever.