CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #6

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  • #621
Or could it possibly be about money? Seems like I read somewhere that she was excited to get married but they had faced some financial issues?
I think that he was a reluctant husband, not any financial problems, promising her that they would marry when cattle prices improved.
 
  • #622
I don’t get the feeling that another love interest is the motive here.

I think this was all about custody of the child.

Yes

If PK married his new girlfriend, then KB would leave town with child

If KB found new love, she would likely leave town with child

The only way to keep the child in town was to eliminate KB.

The question we need to ask ... is, why did PF and KB never live together?

Or get married?

The reason usually is ... someone else is in the picture.
 
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  • #624
I know it’s been mentioned several times that it is strange that none of her friends are really speaking out.

I’m finding it more strange that we haven’t heard anything from any of his friends. Nothing supporting him. No character testimonies. Nothing at all.
 
  • #625
No, it specifically states that he told them that.
Three days ago there was a news release by the Woodland Park PD stating specifically that Patrick picked up the child. There was no preface that this was what Patrick told them.
 
  • #626
Well if the breakup did happen, and it happened on Thanksgiving, Kelsey's mom might not have been able to find out about it, at last least directly from Kelsey. She went missing that day, and since she talked to her mom in the morning but was seen at Safeway in the early afternoon, she could have already be missing. Depending on time of day the breakup occurred, if it occurred during the child pick-up, or over the phone beforehand.

Another thought, if they did breakup and did so over the phone before the daughter was picked up/dropped off, PF may have already been upset and volatile when he next saw Kelsey. He may have had time to plan. jmo
?? What indicates there was a breakup on Thanksgiving day?
 
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One might disappear a meal ticket if the meal ticket had life insurance that he was the beneficiary for. Do we know if she has life insurance?

And don't forget Josh Powell, who murdered Susan, the breadwinner, because he was an evil pervert, and of course later killed the two boys.
 
  • #629
Why would PF claim to have picked up or been dropped off the baby if it never happened? If you are suggesting she never came back out of the Safeway what reason would he have to lie about getting his daughter? How did both of her vehicle end up at her house? Just because the video of her leaving isn't online does not mean it didn't happen.
I'm not suggesting anything, I really have no idea. Could he have met her at Safeway or somewhere else and took the baby and she went home? But for the record, I do think she left Safeway with the baby and went home.

Obviously at some point PF picked up or was given the baby. All I'm saying is that police have not yet specified that PF told them the pick up location was at her house. It *could* be another location. I'm not saying it was. And I'm simply pointing out that for some reason they haven't shared video of her leaving Safeway. I'm not suggesting there even is video, or that she didn't exit the store. Just that if they have any further video, police hasn't shared it. And it seemed like it was a few days before they showed us the video of her entering the store, but maybe they released that as soon as they got it.
 
  • #630
I do really think that he has told different people two stories about the handing over of the child and that is why suspicion fell on him so quickly.
 
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?? What indicates there was a breakup on Thanksgiving day?
That was part of the alleged breakup discussion, and that it occurred on Thanksgiving. Another version states the day before. Who knows at this point?
 
  • #634
Three days ago there was a news release by the Woodland Park PD stating specifically that Patrick picked up the child. There was no preface that this was what Patrick told them.
So, do you think that LE have proof of this? How could they?
 
  • #635
Yes, your right, it doesn't say where, and LE would not say. But I think I had it backwards anyway. I think she dropped off the child to him. I'll have to check what I wrote and go back and delete. I know I've read it two different ways but that could have also been other posts I read.
I've read it both ways too! And from what I can tell, police has never said either way what PF even told them for the location.
 
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Missing pilot’s mysterious texts

Look at this family! Holding out hope for your safe return, Kelsey!
From that article:

Even more bafflingly, investigators say on the day the texts were sent, Ms Berreth's mobile phoned pinged off a tower in Gooding, Idaho - more than 1200km from where she was last seen and an area in which she has family.

and

The missing woman's mother believes her daughter is still alive "somewhere in Colorado.

"I think she wants to be found," Cheryl told Inside Edition.

"She's got no reason to be hiding, she's got to be desperately missing (her daughter)".

Color me confused. They were at the fiance's home looking for evidence of something, yet her Mom truly believes she is alive and still in Colorado?
 
  • #638
I think that he was a reluctant husband, not any financial problems, promising her that they would marry when cattle prices improved.
What information leads you to this? Please post link.
 
  • #639
I'm finished. :) What are you looking for?
Sorry! I couldn't remember the final story on who picked up the baby. In some articles it says she dropped the baby off but in others I thought it said he picked the baby up from her.
(According to what PF said, as stated by Kelseys mom.) I know LE would not say where the location was but I wondered if they even stated which one dropped the child off.
 
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  • #640
I'm way behind here but do we know if PF's house has an old well or a septic tank?
I hope they check those types of places.

They will. JMO
 
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