CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58

[legalmomma]

did defense really say that? If so, that is completely idiotic....there KB is blood all over that condo.

But remember...KK has already announced she LEFT blood certain places for it to be found....hmmmm....or placed it?

 

[MsBetsy]

What!?!?!? I'm 10 pages behind but I can't let this go without a comment.

How could they possibly believe Kelsey was a hooker simply because she came home late at night? How does that make any sense at all? Do a lot of hookers in CO have a commercial pilot's license and a flight instructor's license? We can still see Kelsey's licenses on the FAA website with a PO Box address in Florisant. (A PO Box I believe the Frazee's possibly shared since LE found mail on the ranch that was sent to KB): FAA Registry - Airmen - AirmenInquiry - Name Search They have no excuses for believing she was a hooker instead of a pilot and flight instructor. It is an easy claim to check. Is this what PF told his family about KB? How did that conversation go? Is airplane pilot and flight instructor the new slang for "hooker" now? And if KB was working as a hooker, what does that make PF? Her pimp? He was the one in a relationship with KB. If she's a hooker then he is involved in that world too. Sorry, this is just too absurd. KB doesn't have a single arrest record anywhere. She wasn't on drugs. There is nothing to support calling her a hooker! She wasn't some random street person that the Frazees brought into the home out of the goodness of their hearts. And clearly their hearts are the farthest thing from good seeing how they kicked her out when she became pregnant with PATRICK'S CHILD! Not some random man's child. PATRICK'S CHILD. They kicked their own flesh and blood out of their house and then later had the audacity to file for custody of the baby they had rejected before she was ever even born. After KB was murdered of course. Let the evil of it all sink in. I can't get over this. MOO.

I think her calling KB a hooker had more to do with her finding out she was pregnant. And of course because she just didn't like her. Imo

 

[GordianKnot]

I probably forgot a lot of things.
So here's some random things I just remembered.

They showed pictures of the burn area. It had been covered by dirt, KK took them to exact spot. Able to find burn area because of this.

KK & PF are seen at the conoco together. drove up in separate cars. PF got gas in one of those small gas cans.

Also the amount of times Viehman mentioned PF lived at home W/ MOM made me laugh.

BBM:

Holy Crap.

PF. On videotape at the gas station.
Filling up a gas can.
With KK.
On the 24th.

Yet more corroborating evidence of her account.

"Voluminous amounts of evidence," isn't that what we were told by the DA?

Sure enough, that's what we're getting.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, too.

JMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

But remember...KK has already announced she LEFT blood certain places for it to be found....hmmmm....or placed it?

That blood is just in addition to all the other places LE found it.

 

[GoJacks]

Exactly. NO human tooth has any business being in that burn area.

If it’s human, it’s Kelsey’s. If it’s Kelsey’s, he’s done.

They had a picture. Didn't look like that small of a piece, but who knows what zoom level that was at, haha.

Looked like it could easily be a tooth. JMO

I think her calling KB a hooker had more to do with her finding out she was pregnant. And of course because she just didn't like her. Imo

Nope, this was the day KB moved to CO. Many moons before SF found out she was pregnant.
Which leads you to believe, PF never told his mother about KB moving there/existing.

 

[Warwick7]

They had a picture. Didn't look like that small of a piece, but who knows what zoom level that was at, haha.

Looked like it could easily be a tooth. JMO



Nope, this was the day KB moved to CO. Many moons before SF found out she was pregnant.
Which leads you to believe, PF never told his mother about KB moving there/existing.

Yes, that's what I understood too-- he never told his mother

 

[?mysterian?]

I think her calling KB a hooker had more to do with her finding out she was pregnant. And of course because she just didn't like her. Imo

From @GoJacks post #1136: <snip>"This is where it gets very interesting
PF and KB headed back to CO and had an apt secured in Florrisant for her. They got back super late and didn't want to have to set anything up so PF told her she could just spend the night at 'ol Ma's house. OOFTA....bad decision.

Apparently SF woke up and was mad, called her a hooker and made her leave. "<snip>

*snipped by me*

SF calling KB a hooker started KB's first night in Colorado if I'm understanding this post correctly.

 

[skyedaze]

Nowhere as far as we know. And “somewhere other than Kelsey’s condo,” seems to indicate that the defense doesn’t have any evidence to support this claim.

Talk about vague.

Something just occurred to me. Either the defense is being vague because there is no other location, or they are about to be forced to explain away evidence at another location.

That discolored hay bail at Nash Ranch maybe?!

Yes that hay bale just randomly jumped up and killed KB in the barn. Then..the hay bale got in her car and went to her condo and threw blood, brain matter, and wait for it..teeth...all over the condo and left....after leaving bloody footprints on the carpet and taking a shower.

 

[?mysterian?]

I just posted up above and I can't get rid of it---help!

At the bottom of your post there should be "Edit". Click on that, delete/add/edit what you want and repost.

 

[Gardenista]

We need to send a copy of @GoJacks work to all of the reporters on this case to show them how it's done. Awesome job and TY so much!

 

[MemPat]

Yes that hay bale just randomly jumped up and killed KB in the barn. Then..the hay bale got in her car and went to her condo and threw blood, brain matter, and wait for it..teeth...all over the condo and left....after leaving bloody footprints on the carpet and taking a shower.

"Night of the Living Hay Bales"......They just don't make movies like that any more!

 

[Hatfield]

I just posted up above and I can't get rid of it---help!

There should be an EDIT button on lower left of the post. You can go in and delete parts that you didnt intend to include.

 

[Warwick7]

There should be an EDIT button on lower left of the post. You can go in and delete parts that you didnt intend to include.

Thanks Hatfield, I tried and it won't let me.....
:0(

 

[MassGuy]

From @GoJacks post #1136: <snip>"This is where it gets very interesting
PF and KB headed back to CO and had an apt secured in Florrisant for her. They got back super late and didn't want to have to set anything up so PF told her she could just spend the night at 'ol Ma's house. OOFTA....bad decision.

Apparently SF woke up and was mad, called her a hooker and made her leave. "<snip>

*snipped by me*

SF calling KB a hooker started KB's first night in Colorado if I'm understanding this post correctly.

Yup. Welcome to hell.

 

[?mysterian?]

Yes that hay bale just randomly jumped up and killed KB in the barn. Then..the hay bale got in her car and went to her condo and threw blood, brain matter, and wait for it..teeth...all over the condo and left....after leaving bloody footprints on the carpet and taking a shower.

Oh, so that's why the defense missed the deadline to file for the Alternate Suspect defense I guess. THBDI(the hay bale did it) doesn't qualify as an alternate suspect defense?

 

[Hatfield]

Thanks Hatfield, I tried and it won't let me.....
:0(

Thats strange. If the EDIT let you in , you have to click on the SAVE Changes at bottom after deleting.

If it didnt let you in EDIT to begin with that is strange. You may be able to "REPORT" it to a MOD to ask them to delete for you if you cant get in EDIT mode to begin with.

 

[GoJacks]

Yay, real boots on the ground....cool. Tell me if you will, does PF come across as obtuse in person as he does in the times I've seen him on TV?

Yes....He's also a lot taller than I expected. He's expression didn't change much, if at all. Maybe the most expression I saw out of him was when he poured himself a cup of coffee. He would lean up and take some notes (doodle on his paper, whatever). Then sit back for awhile. rinse, repeat.

Looks like he had just gotten a haircut. Nice and short, lol.

I have seen tweets today too that state cin rolls were on the table not the stove. Maybe it matters maybe it doesn't.

Pictures of the cinnamon rolls show them on the stove.

Ok, you're our official insider! Were you able to enter the courthouse via PF's l'il tent of secrecy? Or is that reserved for him only?

ETA: I'm so sorry, I forgot my manners. Thank you for going and thank you for telling us about it.

NO!!!! It's like PF's personal little entrance. Have it guarded. In fact, they have that road even blocked off where he gets to enter. Us normal folk must enter through the front.

Sorry if I missed anyone else's questions. Wasn't on purpose. Re-ask if I did.

 

[Warwick7]

Yes....He's also a lot taller than I expected. He's expression didn't change much, if at all. Maybe the most expression I saw out of him was when he poured himself a cup of coffee. He would lean up and take some notes (doodle on his paper, whatever). Then sit back for awhile. rinse, repeat.

Looks like he had just gotten a haircut. Nice and short, lol.


Pictures of the cinnamon rolls show them on the stove.



NO!!!! It's like PF's personal little entrance. Have it guarded. In fact, they have that rode even blocked off where he gets to enter. Us normal folk must enter through the front.

Sorry if I missed anyone else's questions. Wasn't on purpose. Re-ask if I did.

I think they are worried someone is going to sniper him...

 

[Steelslady]

Pictures are VERY clear and close. Obvious it's PF and in same clothes he's in at ENT.

Also forgot some major part.
Yes they showed pictures of the tooth fragment from the fire pit.
KK claims the fire took so long she tried to sleep in her car during it.
Got frustrated and left after this.

Some confusion I had.
I thought they said he burned her inside that black tote, but they showed a picture of the black tote they found at his property.
Also showed pictures of where the tote was at Nash Ranch. The hay is stained a dark red/black color.

What, MaF didn't roll out the hospitality mat and let KK take a nap on her bed or in PF's?

Maybe he put on a Hazmet suit after he blind folded Kelsey? Either that, or he has an extra set of clothes that match what he wore the first time he went to the condo.

Amazing summary, thank you very much for this, @GoJacks !!

 

[Warwick7]

Thats strange. If the EDIT let you in , you have to click on the SAVE Changes at bottom after deleting.

If it didnt let you in EDIT to begin with that is strange. You may be able to "REPORT" it to a MOD to ask them to delete for you if you cant get in EDIT mode to begin with.

Thanks Ill text them.....