CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58

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  • #362
RS is the self-proclaimed "Best friend" and "Father figure" of PF.

You can read all about him in Pages 10 & 11 of Attachment "A" here:
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf

*ETA: "Father Figure of the Year" also gets mentioned on pages 13 & 17 in the context of phone pings showing both PF's and KB's phones traveling together to and from the direction of RS' residence on both Thanksgiving Day and on 11/24, both of which are absolutely critical dates in the timeline.

Thank you GK. If this RS person is PF's father figure he sure did a horrible job. I read the search warrant and am sickened how PF had RS believing that Kelsey was the bad person in all of this. Awful shady how RS wanted to dodge the surveillance cameras from Kelsey's neighborhood to pick up the package. Hope they did a search of everything that RS owns.

Hey Patrick - you deserve an Oscar for your great performance. You should have taken up acting classes instead of spending all your time at the rodeo.
 
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Someone please tell me that they searched RS's property, cars, etc.
 
  • #364
Someone please tell me that they searched RS's property, cars, etc.

They definitely searched the barn at Nash Ranch. See Sam's News Blog Below:

Live blog: Patrick Frazee appears in court for preliminary hearing
SABBM:

2:51 p.m.

Slater says a cadaver dog was brought to Nash Ranch eventually. It alerted to the specific discolored hay bale when positioned both underneath and above it.

2:42 p.m.

They went to Frazee’s property first that day. Kenney showed investigators where the burn was. New exhibit (#12) is a photo of an aerial view with a pin indicating where the burn area was. Again these site visits were Dec. 21. Slater says Kenney had no difficulty remembering where the burn area & Nash Ranch were.

2:39 p.m.

More exhibits. First (#9) is a photo of two red barns on Nash Ranch. Second (#10) is a photo of a bale of hay that is distinctively discolored from other bale. Third (#11) is the tractor Slater says Frazee used to move the hay bale.


2:36 p.m.

The sites where investigators and Kenney visited during the second interview with CSPD: the Nash Ranch, Kelsey’s townhome & back to the Frazee residence. Those were on Dec. 21, state says.
 
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  • #365
I wonder if RS has met the infamous RR, "Rodeo Royalty", aka KK? And if so, when?
 
  • #366
It's remarkable to realize that we will likely get answers to some of our burning questions during the Opening Statements on Friday...just two "sleeps" from now, as the little ones say.

Then Monday will swing open the door to ALL the happenings at the condo, the franch, KK's hometown and all points in between.

I'm expecting extensive peeks into Patrick's computer files that he was sure he had deleted. Whoops!

It's inevitable that this will be like getting new chapters to a book you read last year.....maybe meeting some brand new characters, some who like him and some who despise him, some with deeply incriminating tales to tell!

If we thought Patrick was a dumb cowboy based on our limited knowledge from KK's statement, imagine what could come tumbling out of the mouths of these others.

"It was a dark and stormy night.........
 
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It's remarkable to realize that we will likely get answers to some of our burning questions during the Opening Statements on Friday...just two "sleeps" from now, as the little ones say.

Then Monday will swing open the door to ALL the happenings at the condo, the franch, KK's hometown and all points in between.

I'm expecting extensive peeks into Patrick's computer files that he was sure he had deleted. Whoops!

It's inevitable that this will be like getting new chapters to a book you read last year.....maybe meeting some brand new characters, some who like him and some who despise him, some with deeply incriminating tales to tell!

If we thought Patrick was a dumb cowboy based on our limited knowledge from KK's statement, imagine what could come tumbling out of the mouths of these others.

"It was a dark and stormy night.........
Oh yeah. I think his search history will be very telling.

I genuinely wouldn’t be shocked to see: “How to commit murder and get away with it.”

If you think he’s dumb now, just wait until trial.
 
  • #368
It's remarkable to realize that we will likely get answers to some of our burning questions during the Opening Statements on Friday...just two "sleeps" from now, as the little ones say.

Then Monday will swing open the door to ALL the happenings at the condo, the franch, KK's hometown and all points in between.

I'm expecting extensive peeks into Patrick's computer files that he was sure he had deleted. Whoops!

It's inevitable that this will be like getting new chapters to a book you read last year.....maybe meeting some brand new characters, some who like him and some who despise him, some with deeply incriminating tales to tell!

If we thought Patrick was a dumb cowboy based on our limited knowledge from KK's statement, imagine what could come tumbling out of the mouths of these others.

"It was a dark and stormy night.........
BBM:

He probably rubbed Wet Wipes over his laptop, thinking that would be all he needed to do to scrub his files.
 
  • #369
I’m waiting on SF as I think she’s in this - all in

This is probably a dumb question but I've been wondering ever since SF plead the 5th... Does anyone think PF's defense might try to imply that SF was the one who actually murdered KB and plotted with KK to clean up the crime scene? I'm not saying I believe that happened (not by a long shot). But can the defense spin SF as an extremely manipulative mother who didn't like the mother of PF's child (KB) and thought he should be with his former girlfriend KK instead? Or an overbearing grandmother who wanted KB out of the picture entirely so that they wouldn't have to share custody of Baby K with KB? PF's defense could explain away the texting while in the same house by saying his mother was texting on KB's phone after the murder and fooling him. She also would have access to PF's phone to use to call KK and his truck to use to transport the body. One big issue (of many issues) with this type of defense is that SF may lack the physical ability to carry out the murder and removal of KB's body. She also was not seen on camera while PF was caught on camera at KB's house. And her other son, the cop, should be able to testify as to SF's location on Thanksgiving day... unless he also decides to plead the 5th :rolleyes: . PF was also caught in many lies that I don't think the jury will be able to overlook. I'm just thinking that we have been so focused on whether the defense will blame KK for the murder (and I don't see enough evidence pointing to KK as the actual murderer)... did we overlook a possible defense in blaming SF instead? If SF takes the 5th for the trial it will look like she helped in the murder/coverup. But it can also be spun as "SF is the real murderer and that is why she plead the 5th". Would PF dare to let his lawyers pull a Casey Anthoneyesque defense like that? Someone tell me I'm crazy and there is no way this would fly (I can take it, really :p ). Because I really believe PF murdered KB and I want to see him put away for it.

MOO.
 
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This is probably a dumb question but I've been wondering ever since SF plead the 5th... Does anyone think PF's defense might try to imply that SF was the one who actually murdered KB and plotted with KK to clean up the crime scene? I'm not saying I believe that happened (not by a long shot). But can the defense spin SF as an extremely manipulative mother who didn't like the mother of PF's child (KB) and thought he should be with his former girlfriend KK instead? Or an overbearing grandmother who wanted KB out of the picture entirely so that they wouldn't have to share custody of Baby K with KB? PF's defense could explain away the texting while in the same house by saying his mother was texting on KB's phone after the murder and fooling him. She also would have access to PF's phone to use to call KK and his truck to use to transport the body. One big issue (of many issues) with this type of defense is that SF may lack the physical ability to carry out the murder and removal of KB's body. She also was not seen on camera while PF was caught on camera at KB's house. And her other son, the cop, should be able to testify as to SF's location on Thanksgiving day... unless he also decides to plead the 5th :rolleyes: . PF was also caught in many lies that I don't think the jury will be able to overlook. I'm just thinking that we have been so focused on whether the defense will blame KK for the murder (and I don't see enough evidence pointing to KK as the actual murderer)... did we overlook a possible defense in blaming SF instead? If SF takes the 5th for the trial it will look like she helped in the murder/coverup. But it can also be spun as "SF is the real murderer and that is why she plead the 5th". Would PF dare to let his lawyers pull a Casey Anthoneyesque defense like that? Someone tell me I'm crazy and there is no way this would fly (I can take it, really :p ). Because I really believe PF murdered KB and I want to see him put away for it.

MOO.
They’re going to have to get creative, that’s for damn sure. I think we’ll have a decent idea as to their strategy, come Friday’s opening statements.

The defense has pointed fingers at family members in past cases, but I’d be surprised to see that strategy here.

They’ve already projected some of their strategy when they submitted their “endorsement of defenses and witnesses.” KK’s name was on that list.

The question is if they go after her as being the sole perpetrator, or if they throw other possibilities in there.
 
  • #371
Watching the World Series tonight.

Each swing by a batter is sadly reminding me of the true brutality of what PF really did to Kelsey.

A bat. A BAT.
With the power to drive a ball over 400 feet.
PF swung that right in to her head.
Then went to Ma’s to eat turkey.

It is truly unimaginable.

Bring this trial on.
 
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This is probably a dumb question but I've been wondering ever since SF plead the 5th... Does anyone think PF's defense might try to imply that SF was the one who actually murdered KB and plotted with KK to clean up the crime scene? I'm not saying I believe that happened (not by a long shot). But can the defense spin SF as an extremely manipulative mother who didn't like the mother of PF's child (KB) and thought he should be with his former girlfriend KK instead? Or an overbearing grandmother who wanted KB out of the picture entirely so that they wouldn't have to share custody of Baby K with KB? PF's defense could explain away the texting while in the same house by saying his mother was texting on KB's phone after the murder and fooling him. She also would have access to PF's phone to use to call KK and his truck to use to transport the body. One big issue (of many issues) with this type of defense is that SF may lack the physical ability to carry out the murder and removal of KB's body. She also was not seen on camera while PF was caught on camera at KB's house. And her other son, the cop, should be able to testify as to SF's location on Thanksgiving day... unless he also decides to plead the 5th :rolleyes: . PF was also caught in many lies that I don't think the jury will be able to overlook. I'm just thinking that we have been so focused on whether the defense will blame KK for the murder (and I don't see enough evidence pointing to KK as the actual murderer)... did we overlook a possible defense in blaming SF instead? If SF takes the 5th for the trial it will look like she helped in the murder/coverup. But it can also be spun as "SF is the real murderer and that is why she plead the 5th". Would PF dare to let his lawyers pull a Casey Anthoneyesque defense like that? Someone tell me I'm crazy and there is no way this would fly (I can take it, really :p ). Because I really believe PF murdered KB and I want to see him put away for it.

MOO.

I think you know the answer, gardener.

There is a great deal of evidence that led LE to Patrick and even though we don't see Ma F as innocent as the driven snow, we know she didn't do this crime.

Patrick was there and he's not going to see the light of day.
 
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Oh yeah. I think his search history will be very telling.

I genuinely wouldn’t be shocked to see: “How to commit murder and get away with it.”

If you think he’s dumb now, just wait until trial.
BBM:

Frankly, I'll be genuinely shocked NOT to see those types of damning searches in this moron's history.

The only things that he'll have "researched" are the things within the scope of his (extremely limited) fund of knowledge, though.

Obviously, there won't be anything along the lines of, "How to avoid electronic tracking," "Erasing digital footprints" or "How to prevent cell phone pings."

JMO.
 
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BBM:

Frankly, I'll be genuinely shocked NOT to see those types of damning searches in this moron's history.

The only things that he'll have "researched" are the things within the scope of his (extremely limited) fund of knowledge, though.

Obviously, there won't be anything along the lines of, "How to avoid electronic tracking," "Erasing digital footprints" or "How to prevent cell phone pings."

JMO.
Maybe "which end of the bat do I hold?"
 
  • #375
Watching the World Series tonight.

Each swing by a batter is sadly reminding me of the true brutality of what PF really did to Kelsey.

A bat. A BAT.
With the power to drive a ball over 400 feet.
PF swung that right in to her head.
Then went to Ma’s to eat turkey.

It is truly unimaginable.

Bring this trial on.
Yeah. When Howie Kendrick hit a home run earlier, he rounded the bases and touched home.

PF’s swings will culminate in him calling prison home.

As far as murders go, this was about as brutal and horrific as it gets. It’s the definition of cold blooded.

I hope Dan May has one on hand as a prop, and just in case PF gets mouthy.
 
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I hope they ask her if Kelsey was expected for Thanksgiving dinner and if so, was she planning on bringing a dish and what was PF's explanation for her not being there.
I don't think KB was expected to come to Thanksgiving dinner. PF was lying to both sides. Stringing KB along, telling her they were going to have a nice little family holiday together, while telling his friends and family he was done with her because she was nuts and volatile and not a good mother. In fact she was abusive and he was going to fight for full custody.

I just hope the state can prove how he was lying to everyone. It would turn the jury against him if they understood what he was doing. JMO
 
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Off topic / GOOD NEWS for anyone following the Isabel Hicks from Virginia case, (teen missing with mother’s ex-bf).

She was FOUND SAFE tonight after a police pursuit. HIS mother called the police! YAY for MOMS who DO THE RIGHT THING!
 
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This is probably a dumb question but I've been wondering ever since SF plead the 5th... Does anyone think PF's defense might try to imply that SF was the one who actually murdered KB and plotted with KK to clean up the crime scene? I'm not saying I believe that happened (not by a long shot). But can the defense spin SF as an extremely manipulative mother who didn't like the mother of PF's child (KB) and thought he should be with his former girlfriend KK instead? Or an overbearing grandmother who wanted KB out of the picture entirely so that they wouldn't have to share custody of Baby K with KB? PF's defense could explain away the texting while in the same house by saying his mother was texting on KB's phone after the murder and fooling him. She also would have access to PF's phone to use to call KK and his truck to use to transport the body. One big issue (of many issues) with this type of defense is that SF may lack the physical ability to carry out the murder and removal of KB's body. She also was not seen on camera while PF was caught on camera at KB's house. And her other son, the cop, should be able to testify as to SF's location on Thanksgiving day... unless he also decides to plead the 5th :rolleyes: . PF was also caught in many lies that I don't think the jury will be able to overlook. I'm just thinking that we have been so focused on whether the defense will blame KK for the murder (and I don't see enough evidence pointing to KK as the actual murderer)... did we overlook a possible defense in blaming SF instead? If SF takes the 5th for the trial it will look like she helped in the murder/coverup. But it can also be spun as "SF is the real murderer and that is why she plead the 5th". Would PF dare to let his lawyers pull a Casey Anthoneyesque defense like that? Someone tell me I'm crazy and there is no way this would fly (I can take it, really :p ). Because I really believe PF murdered KB and I want to see him put away for it.

MOO.
I understand your concern about the defense trying to shift the finger of blame onto Ma F.
But there's no way that will fly.
Aside from the fact that it really doesn't fit with all the evidence, here's why it ain't gonna' happen:

If the defense tries to insinuate that Ma F. is the "real killer," SF2 is virtually guaranteed to flip on PF. There's no way SF2 will allow PF to throw Ma under the bus like that, and PF knows it.

Another issue with trying to finger Ma F. as the "real killer" is that it becomes really hard to envision a selfish so-and-so like KK agreeing to come out to CO to clean up after Ma, much less agree to take KB's phone back to ID with her for Ma.

That wouldn't make sense to the jury.

Finally, if Ma was the real killer, why did KK tell LE it was PF who murdered KB?

JMO.
 
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COLORADO SPRINGS — At a Dec. 10 press conference announcing her daughter Kelsey was missing, Cheryl Berreth delivered a passionate plea.

"She doesn't run off, and someone knows where she's at," Berreth said.

She was right, and that person was Krystal Kenney.

<Snip>


District Attorney Dan May said she played a key role in solving the case at a Feb. 19 press conference following Frazee's preliminary hearing, when some of the evidence was read aloud in court for the first time.

"We wouldn't even know where the murder happened in the apartment, even which room or where it happened at all, without her testimony," May said.

<Snip>

Stephen Longo, attorney and founder of the Longo Firm, said he thinks that's why she'll be a prime target for the defense at Frazee's murder trial, even if she's the state's top witness.

"They want to tear down her credibility as much as possible, and what better way to do that then to say she's more involved in this crime than she's going to say, and that gives her the motivation to fabricate what the defendant, Patrick Frazee, did," Longo said.

Kenney primed for key witness role in Frazee murder trial
 
  • #380
It's all coming back to me! Remember PF's even bigger lie that KB left and/or abandoned baby K at the hospital after birth, and he's the one that collected her and cared for her!

MOO
And way back at the start I wasn't sure w3ho to believe about that---until I saw the 'family' photo, taken at the hospital, by one of those paid photographers. They take that professional photo as the mother is all cleaned up and rested, just before check out. So there was no way she abandoned the baby, the way PF claimed.

Besides, the nurses would have called in CPS social workers if that had happened. Even if the father was there to take the child, there would still follow up on the Mother, if she had suddenly skipped out---in case of drug issues, or postpartum depression/psychosis, etc. Which never happened.
 
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