CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #58

[MsBetsy]

Don't quote me on this, but i believe they said KK had 4 bags of trash of things she couldn't get blood off of. Baby toys, curtains, etc.

The bathroom rug...

 

[Steelslady]

This is the first I've heard of the bread for the Thanksgiving desert dip. Between that and the sweet potato casserole it does sound like she expected to go to the ranch for dinner.

Imo

I forget- where did the Cracker Barrel dinner plans come from? Remember it was Mr. Berreth's favorite restaurant and allegedly Kelsey said they were going there because it was her Dad's favorite restaurant? Or did I dream that one up?

I do agree, she did plan to go to MaF's for Thanksgiving.

 

[skyedaze]

If all goes according to plan, PF will be a convicted felon by Thanksgiving.

Last year he ate turkey while Kelsey’s battered body was stuffed in a tote.

This year he’ll be eating jailhouse slop with a spork.

YES! THIS!
And I will toast his karma with a lemonade from Sonic and some tater tots.

 

[GoJacks]

I probably forgot a lot of things.
So here's some random things I just remembered.

They showed pictures of the burn area. It had been covered by dirt, KK took them to exact spot. Able to find burn area because of this.

KK & PF are seen at the conoco together. drove up in separate cars. PF got gas in one of those small gas cans.

Also the amount of times Viehman mentioned PF lived at home W/ MOM made me laugh.

 

[k-mac]

The fact that Patrick called KK 46 times in the days after Kelsey "went missing" is so telling.

I wanna know more so....how many times KK called him?.....(or didn't...) that shall also be very interesting.

I wanna see kk's phone records and texts between pf and her for the month before and after.
pretty please.....sugar on top?????

 

[MassGuy]

I probably forgot a lot of things.
So here's some random things I just remembered.

They showed pictures of the burn area. It had been covered by dirt, KK took them to exact spot. Able to find burn area because of this.

KK & PF are seen at the conoco together. drove up in separate cars. PF got gas in one of those small gas cans.

Also the amount of times Viehman mentioned PF lived at home W/ MOM made me laugh.

Wow! Do you recall if the gas station fill up was on the night of the fire?!

Please say yes!

 

[Seattle1]

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[skyedaze]

Carol McKinley on Twitter
Waiting for the first witness in the #patrickFrazee trial after an hour of openings. Defense says Krystal Kenney Lee killed #KelseyBerreth somewhere besides in her condo. Prosecution says cellphone trail and Lee's testimony proves Frazee killed her and Lee only helped. @ABC
3:16 PM - 1 Nov 2019

did defense really say that? If so, that is completely idiotic....there KB is blood all over that condo.

 

[Gardener1850]

Cheryl Berreth struggled to contain her emotions on the stand as she described her daughter's upbringing in Washington state and a lifelong desire to become a pilot. Kelsey Berreth moved to Colorado within a year after starting a relationship with Patrick Frazee. Kelsey worked in Grand Junction, Falcon and Pueblo as a flight instructor. Cheryl describes her daughter's relationship with the Frazee family as never being good, with the family viewing Kelsey as a "hooker" because she would arrive at the family property late at night due to her work hours.

According to the mother, the relationship worsened after Kelsey told the family about her pregnancy in the summer of 2017. She explained how her daughter was thrown out of the house and forced to move in with a coworker. Fast forward a year later when Frazee and Berreth's daughter had just turned one year old, and Cheryl Berreth describes her daughter visiting a clinic in California to help address mineral deficiency. Soon after, Kelsey started working less to spend more time with her child. She and Frazee continued to live separately.

Mother testifies about strained relationship and concern for her missing daughter

What!?!?!? I'm 10 pages behind but I can't let this go without a comment.

How could they possibly believe Kelsey was a hooker simply because she came home late at night? How does that make any sense at all? Do a lot of hookers in CO have a commercial pilot's license and a flight instructor's license? We can still see Kelsey's licenses on the FAA website with a PO Box address in Florisant. (A PO Box I believe the Frazee's possibly shared since LE found mail on the ranch that was sent to KB): FAA Registry - Airmen - AirmenInquiry - Name Search They have no excuses for believing she was a hooker instead of a pilot and flight instructor. It is an easy claim to check. Is this what PF told his family about KB? How did that conversation go? Is airplane pilot and flight instructor the new slang for "hooker" now? And if KB was working as a hooker, what does that make PF? Her pimp? He was the one in a relationship with KB. If she's a hooker then he is involved in that world too. Sorry, this is just too absurd. KB doesn't have a single arrest record anywhere. She wasn't on drugs. There is nothing to support calling her a hooker! She wasn't some random street person that the Frazees brought into the home out of the goodness of their hearts. And clearly their hearts are the farthest thing from good seeing how they kicked her out when she became pregnant with PATRICK'S CHILD! Not some random man's child. PATRICK'S CHILD. They kicked their own flesh and blood out of their house and then later had the audacity to file for custody of the baby they had rejected before she was ever even born. After KB was murdered of course. Let the evil of it all sink in. I can't get over this. MOO.

 

[legalmomma]

okay part 2

Thanksgiving day.
CB talks to KB a couple times in the morning, probably around 9am. Mentions her and PF are going out to eat for thanksgiving, probably later in the day. Mentions she's tired because she was up all night because PF was sick. PF had stomach ulcers which caused him issues sometimes.
KB asked for recipe for bread dip? Family favorite. CB sent her a picture of the recipe.
Never mentioned any sort of argument with PF. Nothing unusual about relationship that day.
CB mentions that KB said she made cinnamon rolls but baby kb wanted honey nut cheerios instead.
Last convo CB had w/KB was about baby having poop explosions (lol)
CB actually TEXTED PF "happy thanksgiving I heard you're sick, hope you feel better" PF responded happy thanksgiving back. (cb very choked up during this part)

CB was with son and busy moving things from WA to ID during this time so didn't think much of not being in contact with KB
CB accidentally called KB on 11/24. got text back that said "ill call tom" never got a call or text after this.
CB mentioned KB worked long hours M,T,Th, so when she didn't hear from her she wasn't THAT concerned, became concerned on Friday because she knew KB wasn't working and it was unusual to go that long without talking to her.

Went through KB's fb friends list and messaged all her Doss employers. One responded saying KB took the week off, said she would be back on Mon.
She called PF, had a long 20~ min convo with him. PF explained they had been arguing a lot and KB wanted to go her separate way.
She found this odd because KB mentioned no such thing.
She said well will you at least go check on her. He said he was checking cows and KB wouldn't want to see him. CB said, I don't care if she doesn't want to see you I just want to know she is okay. It's at this time CB says she realizes where is baby. Asks PF, says he has baby and KB told him to keep baby until she figures things out.

Brother convinces CB to call police. They tell her no sign her at apt but her cars are out front. CB and brother wait till Mon, if KB doesn't show up for work they have a flight scheduled to go to CO. KB doesn't show up for work.
CB & brother fly to CO (while at airport she was informed KB's phone pinged in ID), take an uber to her house thinking they won't need a rental car. PF had mentioned he gave her all her keys back so they believed they could just use one of her cars if they needed it. No keys of any sort at condo.
Found the house odd, cinnamon rolls left on counter uncovered. "hard as a rock" -cb
*Showed a picture of the infamous cinnamon rolls
her and brother went through KB's things, didn't notice anything missing. Said KB wouldn't leave the house without these things.
Mentioned that it looked like the house had been wiped down. Noticed it on the couch and stove when the light hit.

I think that's about where they ended it for the day.

*also this reminded me in opening statements they showed pictures of the floor panels tore up where they found blood and blood stains they found behind couch cushions.

Thank you so much for your coverage! Did CB say how she and her brother got into KB's condo?

 

[MassGuy]

What!?!?!? I'm 10 pages behind but I can't let this go without a comment.

How could they possibly believe Kelsey was a hooker simply because she came home late at night? How does that make any sense at all? Do a lot of hookers in CO have a commercial pilot's license and a flight instructor's license? We can still see Kelsey's licenses on the FAA website with a PO Box address in Florisant. (A PO Box I believe the Frazee's possibly shared since LE found mail on the ranch that was sent to KB): FAA Registry - Airmen - AirmenInquiry - Name Search They have no excuses for believing she was a hooker instead of a pilot and flight instructor. It is an easy claim to check. Is this what PF told his family about KB? How did that conversation go? Is airplane pilot and flight instructor the new slang for "hooker" now? And if KB was working as a hooker, what does that make PF? Her pimp? He was the one in a relationship with KB. If she's a hooker then he is involved in that world too. Sorry, this is just too absurd. KB doesn't have a single arrest record anywhere. She wasn't on drugs. There is nothing to support calling her a hooker! She wasn't some random street person that the Frazees brought into the home out of the goodness of their hearts. And clearly their hearts are the farthest thing from good seeing how they kicked her out when she became pregnant with PATRICK'S CHILD! Not some random man's child. PATRICK'S CHILD. They kicked their own flesh and blood out of their house and then later had the audacity to file for custody of the baby they had rejected before she was ever even born. After KB was murdered of course. Let the evil of it all sink in. I can't get over this. MOO.

He’s not just stupid, he’s PF.

They’re not just evil, they’re the Frazee’s.

 

[Hatfield]

I probably forgot a lot of things.
So here's some random things I just remembered.

They showed pictures of the burn area. It had been covered by dirt, KK took them to exact spot. Able to find burn area because of this.

KK & PF are seen at the conoco together. drove up in separate cars. PF got gas in one of those small gas cans.

Also the amount of times Viehman mentioned PF lived at home W/ MOM made me laugh.

Re BBM

Well, we can add another "Gem" to PF's rules for "How to get away with a Murder"

*-Make sure you are spotted on video at the Gas Station with your partner in crime filling up a small gas can for the big fire later.

 

[MsBetsy]

I forget- where did the Cracker Barrel dinner plans come from? Remember it was Mr. Berreth's favorite restaurant and allegedly Kelsey said they were going there because it was her Dad's favorite restaurant? Or did I dream that one up?

I do agree, she did plan to go to MaF's for Thanksgiving.

I think PF told CB they went there for dinner that night. Imo

 

[?mysterian?]

I forget- where did the Cracker Barrel dinner plans come from? Remember it was Mr. Berreth's favorite restaurant and allegedly Kelsey said they were going there because it was her Dad's favorite restaurant? Or did I dream that one up?

I do agree, she did plan to go to MaF's for Thanksgiving.

No, I think PF mentioned Cracker Barrel to CB as part of the lies he was telling after KB's murder, IIRC.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

I feel so much for CB. I'm sure in the very beginning PF made himself out to be the Mr. wonderful KB was looking for...promising her things that would never come to fruition to get her to move for him.

And CB helped PF to move Kelsey to be with him. Hearing that she choked up on the stand today recalling the text messages breaks my heart.
He took her baby's life. If there's any justice in this world, he and his family will never get near her grandbaby again.

 

[GoJacks]

I wanna know more so....how many times KK called him?.....(or didn't...) that shall also be very interesting.

I wanna see kk's phone records and texts between pf and her for the month before and after.
pretty please.....sugar on top?????

They had a slide for each day. Left hand side was like
"PF calls to KK''
on Nov 26
9 calls
time and how long each call was
right hand side each day:
Calls to KB
ZERO

Wow! Do you recall if the gas station fill up was on the night of the fire?!

Please say yes!

I believe it was same day as fire. Nov. 24th.

 

[Seattle1]

So both KK and PF’s phones pinged at Nash. That’s damning. That’s corroboration.

Yeah, I think that’s the first we’ve heard as to where that tooth fragment was found.

And if the consumptive test results were inconclusive -- it's going to be because of the the poor sample and/or size, and not because it wasn't KB's tooth. As Dan May said -- you don't have to see the bunny to know who left the tracks.

 

[MsBetsy]

I wanna know more so....how many times KK called him?.....(or didn't...) that shall also be very interesting.

I wanna see kk's phone records and texts between pf and her for the month before and after.
pretty please.....sugar on top?????

That was probably the phone she got rid of after she went home. Imo

 

[MassGuy]

They had a slide for each day. Left hand side was like
"PF calls to KK''
on Nov 26
9 calls
time and how long each call was
right hand side each day:
Calls to KB
ZERO



I believe it was same day as fire. Nov. 24th.

Wow! I know there’s a long way to go, but that hole is only getting deeper for the defense.

More corroboration that KK’s account is true.

 

[MassGuy]

And if the consumptive test results were inconclusive -- it's going to be because of the the poor sample and/or size, and not because it wasn't KB's tooth. As Dan May said -- you don't have to see the bunny to know who left the tracks.

Exactly. NO human tooth has any business being in that burn area.

If it’s human, it’s Kelsey’s. If it’s Kelsey’s, he’s done.