CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

[Insomnia Momma]

Well, I am still holding my breath because I don't know yet how capable these defense attorneys are. And I don't know who is on the jury...

They will likely say things like ' just because we never saw images of Kelsey leaving the apartment doesn't mean she didn't leave on her own, safe and sound.' Hence the problems with the camera and the images missed, etc.

They do have very large seemingly insurmountable problems...but I remember watching videos of Casey Anthony dancing in a wet t-shirt contest, hours after her baby went missing. And weeks later the jury let her walk in an inexplicable decision.

All of this! CA trial was a nightmare. I keep thinking that I hope these jurors are taking meticulous notes here. This is week one, day 2 1/2 of testimony. The prosecution still has to bring in the cell phone experts to explain pings and tower dumps which is long, tedious, dry testimony. KK is going to take days IMO, the defense is going to cross hard and the prosecution will most likely go again after cross. All of the searches have to be discussed. Forensics experts, DNA experts, etc.

I guess I’m just saying that I hope the jury remembers these details that we believe are bombshells by the time they get to the jury room.

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 5, 2019
Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive
Prosecutors spent Tuesday morning building a nearly minute-by-minute timeline of what surveillance video shows Kelsey Berreth and the man suspected in her murder were doing on the last day she was seen alive.

[...]

Footage from the camera attached to the ATM at the ENT Credit Union shows Frazee pulling up at 12:42 p.m., according to Courtney. He spent eight minutes at the ATM. At 12:46 p.m., it snapped a photo of him looking at the machine with his baby daughter visible in the front seat.

Courtney said Frazee is next seen going into Walmart at 12:52 p.m. He left the parking lot at 1:13 p.m. Surveillance video from the furniture store shows Frazee’s truck headed toward Berreth’s condo at roughly 1:18 p.m.

[...]

At 4:20 p.m., Frazee is seen at the house once again holding the child. He’s also seen in surveillance footage at 4:24 p.m., 4:26 p.m., 4:27 p.m., 4:28 p.m., 4:29 p.m., and 4:30 p.m. During cross-examination, the defense attorneys pointed out that in the surveillance photos shown in court, Frazee isn’t seen with a black tote box. This piece of evidence is significant, since it is the container that prosecutors allege that Frazee used to store Berreth’s body after the murder occurred.

[...]

Courtney said Frazee was last seen in surveillance images at the furniture store headed toward Florissant from Berreth’s apartment at 4:34 p.m. She claimed that the tote box appeared to have moved in the bed of the truck, something the defense disputed during cross-examination.

The next piece of evidence about Frazee’s whereabouts came from his brother, Sean Frazee. He said that he had gone to his and Patrick Frazee’s mother’s home in Florissant for Thanksgiving, arriving at around 2:30 p.m. He said Patrick Frazee wasn’t there, and the family ate without him.

[...]

During her testimony, Cheryl Berreth — Kelsey Berreth’s mom — said she had never heard that the two had broken up. She said during one of her last conversations with her daughter on Thanksgiving morning, Kelsey Berreth claimed she had been with Patrick Frazee at his ranch in Florissant and gone to buy him medicine at Walmart. Cheryl Berreth said her daughter didn’t get home until around 4 a.m. on Nov. 22.

[...]

At the end of Tuesday's testimony, Slater said Patrick Frazee was paying Kelsey Berreth $700 a month in child support, but hadn't made a payment since July. This was not formalized with the courts, Slater said.

In addition, Slater claimed he found custody paperwork dated in August 2018 in Frazee's home that had not been filed.

[...]

 

[Seattle1]

Didn't we go through this loan last year and learned it was for a bunch of feeder calves he'd
bought but hadn't sold them yet so thus he hadn't paid off the loan?

Default is failing to fulfill the financial obligation according to terms of the agreement -- not the same as restructuring the debt to avoid default.

That would be like saying on 4th of July I'm going to list my house for sale at Christmas and stop paying the mortgage beginning in August.

 

[tmar]

Nothing spells guilty like an Alibi Script!

I guess we'll see a handwriting expert.

These jerks have similar minds.
In the Dulos case, we have their alibi script also.
All so dumb.

 

[Steelslady]

So PaF's name was still on the Franch and sister
and Sean wanted to sell it and push MaF and PF
out on the street and this is what the family fight is about? Sound about right?

I don't think they wanted them out on the street, but they wanted their share of their father's inheritance. Obviously, Patrick and his mother couldn't afford to buy them out, so I am thinking they were trying to force them to sell the ranch to get their portions of the inheritance. It doesn't appear that the mother is included in the inheritance, so the siblings splitting it three ways would have put Patrick out of their father's ranch and looking for another home, and who knows who would take MaF.

This does explain a lot of things. Kelsey's parents were going to help them purchase a ranch, but I wonder if they wanted it in Kelsey's name only with one of her parents, seeing that they weren't married yet. With whatever was going on with this inheritance, it appears that the Berreth's were trying to help both Kelsey and Patrick out by helping them purchase their own ranch, but then it was said that Patrick got irritated and just told Kelsey to rent a place. I think that is when the Berreth's helped Kelsey get that condo- they probably didn't want her wasting money on rent and having to constantly move to a new place with a baby.

Amazing, though, how fast they were already in a battle over the father's inheritance- he had only passed away two months before Kelsey was murdered. Holy cow, they really wanted MaF and Patrick out of there, or to buy out their portion pretty quickly, eh?

Just my thoughts and opinions, and I could be wrong.

 

[katydid23]

If anyone knows......

So does this mean that the Prosecution has more witnesses still? Did they just not have them ready in the courtroom today when they got through the ones they thought would take the whole day?

I noticed that there was no cross examination of the forensics image guy. That surprised me and probably surprised the DA too. Maybe that's why they got caught short on witnesses today.

It is hard to schedule witnesses perfectly. You try to avoid them coming to court and sitting all day if it can be avoided.

 

[PommyMommy]

RECAP - COURT ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY

Lance Benzel on Twitter
#PatrickFrazee trial is done for the day after prosecutors ran thru all their scheduled witnesses early. #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:16 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Among the highlights of afternoon session was admission of hand-written doc — found at #PatrickFrazee ranch — in which he lays out time line of events surrounding #KelseyBerreth’s disappearance. He says he met her at 12:30 p.m. to exchange child.
2:18 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
This is plainly contradicted by surveillance from multiple locations and receipts charting their movements. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth
2:19 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Testimony so far this afternoon has focused on two turning points in investigation of #KelseyBerreth disappearance: a blood stain her brother found on the bottom of her toilet, and the last time her phone ever pinged a cell tower. That ping in southern ID lead them to key witness
2:20PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors have also talked about finances between Berreth and #PatrickFrazee. Frazee was late on payments on a $72k loan and had been paying Berreth $700/month in child support for many months. His brother earlier said the family had clashed over deceased dad’s $400k estate.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
One prosecutor said financial situation would become important part of case — not entirely clear how just yet.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Prosecutors seem to be setting up for testimony for key witness Krystal Lee Kenney, Frazee’s lover who told police he killed Berreth. Prosecutors are asking witnesses about Kenney’s role.
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
We ended early today — prosecution ran out of witnesses for today. I am thankful for this because that means I get to run in the sunlight! Maybe!
2:20 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
We also heard CBI Agent Gregg Slater review other evidence pointing possible motive. That includes letter showing #PatrickFrazee was in default in a $72k loan. He had been paying #KelseyBerreth $700/mo in child support but made last payment in June 2019. @csgazette
2:21 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Some afternoon notes: - Police found interesting financial records when searching the Frazee Ranch on Dec. 14-15. - A letter shows he “defaulted” on a $70k+ loan, missing a payment on Dec. 1. - CBI Agent Gregg Slater says Frazee paid Berreth $700/month in child support
2:24 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Just like that, Court is done for the say. Prosecutors “ran out of witnesses” in comparison to what they were expecting. Judge Scott Sells says we’re still on pace. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:22 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Slater said investigators also found half-completed court forms for a child custody issue, though none were filed. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:23 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Those child support payments were made from Oct 2017 (child’s birth) to July 2018, and Slater noted one of the last payments was about $150 short with “registration and taxes” written on the check. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:25 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
And Slater covered a fateful discovery: when investigators received phone records showing that #PatrickFrazee called Krystal Lee Kenney at roughly 4:30 p.m. on Nov. 22, about when he was allegedly seen leaving #KelseyBerreth’s house.
2:26 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
They also touched on a handwritten note from Frazee that appears to be an alibi for Nov. 22. View the top paragraph of this email for what that note said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee

2:27 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
At the time, Slater knew that #KelseyBerreth’s phone had last pinged in Idaho, near where Krystal Kenney lived. “It sparked my interest, yes,” he said on stand. #PatrickFrazee @csgazette
2:27 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
As we reported in the days leading up to Frazee’s arrest, Slater said cell phone records were key. Upon seizing Frazee’s phone, they saw he made a call to a number later identified belonging to Krystal Kenney around the time police say he left Berreth’s home. @KOAA
2:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
When they determined the phone number Frazee called was in Idaho, combined with knowledge Berreth’s phone last pinged in Idaho, Slater says they focused on foul play & Frazee being a suspect. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
2:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
June 2018!
2:32 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Carol McKinley on Twitter
The jury has gone home for the day in #PatrickFrazee's murder trial. Judge Sells-" prosecution has run out of witnesses" due to travel arrangements. Parties are in closed court now. This afternoon spent corroborating facts. 830 Wednesday start #kelseyberreth @ABC
2:35 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
As for the black tote that allegedly changed positions in #PatrickFrazee pickup, defense attorney Adam Steigerwald suggested an alternate explanation. He pointed out that Frazee stopped at a Walmart and purchased a number of large items including dog food. @csgazette
2:36 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Lance Benzel on Twitter
Testimony resumes at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday. Please follow @JakobRodgers for continuing updates. He will be manning the tweets for the next couple days at least, then I’ll be back. #PatrickFrazee #KelseyBerreth @csgazette
2:41 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
On a lighter note in what is a very serious case: Only one person (who I'm not going to name) has had a slip of the tongue in court and accidentally called #PatrickFrazee "Patrick Swayze" in front of everyone.
3:06 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Allison Sylte on Twitter
Nov. 22, 2018 was the last day #KelseyBerreth was seen alive. Surveillance video paints a pretty accurate picture of what she and her fiance were doing -- and the painstaking efforts investigators took to find out that information. #9NEWS
3:12 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We got out of court a little early today. The last investigator to testify explained how they found custody papers in #PatrickFrazee home. They were dated August 9, 2018. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We also learn #PatrickFrazee hired a lawyer to help with those custody papers. They were never filed, but they existed. We've heard rumors about this before. It was confirmed today. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:30 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Another thing about the couples daughter. Investigators say from Oct 2017-July 2018 #PatrickFrazee was paying about $700 in child support to #KelseyBerreth. The child support money was not court ordered.
3:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Daniela Leon‏Verified account @danielaleontv
#UPDATE our cameras caught #Frazee leaving court today after day 3 of his trial. As you can see he’s dawning a red shirt, a different look than why we’re used to.

3:42 PM - 5 Nov 2019

 

[MsBetsy]

At this stage of the game, even if he had half-considered giving in and saying it was a turble ax-dent, he might think it was worth playing it out in court just to get to give his nemesis the evil eye.
Moo

Yeah, he is probably still counting on the jury not finding the star witness credible but so far the evidence against him is overwhelming.

After all, he alone would know if she's lying about something or not, but in the end it may not depend so much on her testimony after all.
Especially if that partial tooth found in the burn pile belonged to Kelsey.

Imo

 

[oviedo]

Well, I am still holding my breath because I don't know yet how capable these defense attorneys are. And I don't know who is on the jury...

They will likely say things like ' just because we never saw images of Kelsey leaving the apartment doesn't mean she didn't leave on her own, safe and sound.' Hence the problems with the camera and the images missed, etc.

They do have very large seemingly insurmountable problems...but I remember watching videos of Casey Anthony dancing in a wet t-shirt contest, hours after her baby went missing. And weeks later the jury let her walk in an inexplicable decision.

Yes I remember very well - I believe this case is so well prosecuted we will have our guilty verdict - KK just ties it all up in a bow IMO

 

[GordianKnot]

Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive

SABBM:

Sean Frazee said Patrick Frazee called their mother at 4:30 p.m. and said he was heading over. This is corroborated by cellphone records testified about by CBI Agent Gregg Slater — who said minutes later, Patrick Frazee also called a phone number in Idaho that was attached to a nurse named Krystal Lee Kenney.

About 30 minutes later — at 5 p.m. — Sean Frazee said Patrick Frazee arrived with his daughter in tow and started making dinner for them both. Later that evening, Sean Frazee said Patrick Frazee went outside to do chores, and then he and his family went home at around 7:30 p.m. that night.
________________

Sure! That's not weird at all!

I'm sure all of us can easily envision PF schlepping around in the kitchen after 5 pm, throwing together a little Thanksgiving feast for himself and Baby K, hours after the rest of the family has eaten.

Totally normal.

"Went outside to do chores."

Guess that's one way of putting it.

Toting around a dead body IS hard work, after all.

JMO.

 

[Mimi in London]

Sam tweet screen cap of his handwritten alibi list etc.

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV
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They also touched on a handwritten note from Frazee that appears to be an alibi for Nov. 22. View the top paragraph of this email for what that note said.

Seriously, five bank DEPOSITS on 22nd? Did he steal cash from her? Is that what the the other charge (killed in the course of a felony?) is about?

And 1 December household waste dump. Was that the one we watched unfold?

 

[PommyMommy]

I noticed that there was no cross examination of the forensics image guy. That surprised me and probably surprised the DA too. Maybe that's why they got caught short on witnesses today.

It is hard to schedule witnesses perfectly. You try to avoid them coming to court and sitting all day if it can be avoided.

Yes, and they went through seven witnesses by lunchtime! MOO

 

[Ccging]

July 2018 - PF’s last support payment to KB

August 2018 - half completed custody paperwork, he knew he’d never get custody. When did he start “trying” to paint KB as a bad mom again?

September 2018 - PF hatches new plan, not custody, just get rid of KB

 

[Seattle1]

Allison Sylte‏ @AllisonSylte
Nov. 22, 2018 was the last day #KelseyBerreth was seen alive. Surveillance video paints a pretty accurate picture of what she and her fiance were doing -- and the painstaking efforts investigators took to find out that information. #9NEWS
Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive

3:12 PM - 5 Nov 2019

 

[Ccging]

Seriously, five bank DEPOSITS on 22nd? Did he steal cash from her? Is that what the the other charge (killed in the course of a felony?) is about?

And 1 December household waste dump. Was that the one we watched unfold?

Quite possibly, or checks.

Yes, I think that was that dump run. LE took in what he dumped. 70 yards of something.

 

[Gardenista]

Seems like they are calling witnesses according to the timeline of events which does mean that KK would be up next.

 

[katydid23]

Defense is really pushing that "no blood on his clothes" line- how many times have we heard that same line now in the last three days? Is that all they got?

If Patrick didn't have her body in the black tote, which is clearly shown in a different position when he drove by on his way home to the ranch, just where did they think Kelsey was? Still inside the condo, taking a nap?

Are they really going to try and spin this into Krystal showing up two days later, to do the deed and clean up by herself?

I think they are going to say that he broke up with Kelsey, she was upset and told him to take the baby so she could rest. Then she got drunk and passed out. He called his girlfriend to tell her he had broken up with KB, and then his girlfriend traveled from Idaho, snuck into the condo and killed the drunk ex girlfriend.

And PF told those lies to try and cover for his girlfriend. The End.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

So here’s hoping she testifies to that call as I’m certain that’s the “clean up your mess “ call IMO

Hmmmmmm Wonder if she still thinks she's the star witness. Because so far every witness so far has been Stellar to say the least.
MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Seems like they are calling witnesses according to the timeline of events which does mean that KK would be up next.

That would make sense. They’ll call her to explain how this all went down, and follow her testimony with experts who can back her claims with an explanation of the evidence.

We might see KK tomorrow!!!

ETA: The sad fact that we won’t actually “see” KK, notwithstanding.

 

[PommyMommy]

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We got out of court a little early today. The last investigator to testify explained how they found custody papers in #PatrickFrazee home. They were dated August 9, 2018. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:29 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
We also learn #PatrickFrazee hired a lawyer to help with those custody papers. They were never filed, but they existed. We've heard rumors about this before. It was confirmed today. @KKTV11News #KelseyBerreth
3:30 PM - 5 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
Another thing about the couples daughter. Investigators say from Oct 2017-July 2018 #PatrickFrazee was paying about $700 in child support to #KelseyBerreth. The child support money was not court ordered.
3:31 PM - 5 Nov 2019