CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 4m4 minutes ago


A few notes: - Clint Berreth took the stand. He says he saw the blood while sitting on the toilet. Says it wasn’t noticeable from just standing there. - Clint has texts showing Kelsey received a text from Erin Frazee’s lawyer wanting dirt on Patrick. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth

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Clint says he understood there was a fight for Patrick’s late father’s assets. Ok have to head back in now @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
wow, poor Kelsey. She wandered into an evil hornet's nest.
 
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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Clint says he understood there was a fight for Patrick’s late father’s assets. Ok have to head back in now @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

9:40 AM - 4 Nov 2019

ETA: It's believed PF dad passed around Sept 2018 but death was not confirmed in msm until Colorado Springs Gazette reported dad was deceased (in article published earlier this spring).

Hmmm... Sept 2018 was when PF started asking KK to murder KB according to Tippy's timeline: Still Missing - CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #57 *ARREST*
I wonder if PF's dad left assets specifically for each of his grandchildren? That could be a motive for PF to want full custody of Baby K. MOO.
 
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so are wills in CO public documents? seems if there are disputes and lawyers involved that the court would be also.
 
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It’s looking like pf attorneys aren’t cross examing cb and family good least cb was spared that but I wonder why no cross examination of Clint about the text that PF sister sent to Kelsey

Beaut that CB wasn't questioned by Defence.
Probably because, later when the Prosecution questions her on Rebuff, she would make clear what a pig, PF was to Kelsey.

It is 5.30 am here, Australia, and I again must catch up.:(
Pity we don't keep the same hours, as it would be so much simpler with WS posts.
 
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I hope LE has looked into PF's father's death. Perhaps, at the end of this, they'll all be in prison.

Sounds like Patrick had a few things to gain through the murder. Ensuring Kelsey didn't hurt the inheritance case (not that I think she would have involved herself, IMO) AND having custody of his daughter.

Now that would be a bombshell (said in Nancy Grace voice) if his father did his will in per stripes, and skipped Patrick and it went to his offsprings.

.....whoa, I'm having another thought.... if his father did to Patricks offsprings and skipped him totally.
 
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I wonder who the defence has as witnesses.

Doubtful it is his brother... he's got too much knowledge and as LE, he would be very precarious as to harm if on the stand. I'm realllllllllllllllllly interested in the prosecution putting him on the stand though.
 
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NOV 4, 2019
Kelsey Berreth's Family Testifies In Patrick Frazee Murder Trial
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Berreth’s family took the stand in the trial on Monday. Her mother and brother testified about how they traveled to Colorado on Dec. 3 when they couldn’t reach her. They also testified about staying at Berreth’s home in Woodland Park.

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We did but death was from a source not approved by WS. MSM confirmed earlier this spring but no obituary to date. MOO

Those posts were deleted for sleuthing relatives. IMO
 
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I hope LE has looked into PF's father's death. Perhaps, at the end of this, they'll all be in prison.

Sounds like Patrick had a few things to gain through the murder. Ensuring Kelsey didn't hurt the inheritance case (not that I think she would have involved herself, IMO) AND having custody of his daughter.
I think there probably was a money component in all this.
The more he makes/inherits, the more he might have had to pay Kelsey for child support. If she had any health problems, she might have not been able to work as much. And since she was kicked out of the Franch, that multiples expenses.
Side note: Somehow Kelsey's value became ZERO to him.
 
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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 4m4 minutes ago


A few notes: - Clint Berreth took the stand. He says he saw the blood while sitting on the toilet. Says it wasn’t noticeable from just standing there. - Clint has texts showing Kelsey received a text from Erin Frazee’s lawyer wanting dirt on Patrick. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth

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Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV


Clint says he understood there was a fight for Patrick’s late father’s assets. Ok have to head back in now @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
Whoa!!! Um more motive??
 
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This is insane!


Why in the world would the lawyer think KB would help her at all? If KB was sent to the porch when the sister visited it makes zero sense that even if she hated PF at that time that she’d give anything to his sister.

This just shows another level of stupidly evil. I can’t even think of another term to use. Stupidly evil.

Could PF have told his family he was broken up with KB a long time ago but all the while was stringing KB along, making her think they were still engaged and keeping her away from his family? That may be why EF thought KB would help with a court case against PF-- if she thought they were not a couple and KB may be a bitter ex-girlfriend. I believe PF lied to everyone. MOO.
 
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Could PF have told his family he was broken up with KB a long time ago but all the while was stringing KB along, making her think they were still engaged and keeping her away from his family? That may be why EF thought KB would help with a court case against PF-- if she thought they were not a couple and KB may be a bitter ex-girlfriend. I believe PF lied to everyone. MOO.
Makes sense to me...
 
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Present! :) I'll be in and out again today, however. MOO

Here as well! Unfortunately also kinda in and out thou... But definitely following.
 
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so are wills in CO public documents? seems if there are disputes and lawyers involved that the court would be also.

I believe that we could not talk about his fathers will before here due to TOS. But now that it has been brought up in court, MOO??? can it be discussed if found as relevant to testimony?
 
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Thx, Websleuths, for including us amateurs. I've had interest in some of the high profile cases through the years, and it's nice to be included in the discussions.
 
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Ima skip any introductions and leap right in.

Who wants to bet little KB has an inheritance from grandpa that the Frazee with custody of her gets their hands on it?
 
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