CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

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This is the equivalent of a “smoking gun.”

He backed himself into a corner by writing his alibi out, and every relevant part of it can be proven to be a lie.

He wasn’t feeding cattle, he was committing murder. He’s literally caught on camera multiple times in direct conflict with his “alibi.”

The only person who can outdo PF, is PF. He’s outdone himself here.

By a fricken mile.
Whoa!!
I can't wait to get home and start reading!!!!!!!!!
 
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Italicisized and underlined by me. WHY???

I am thrilled with SF2’s testimony, and he seems to have ‘done the right thing’. However what could the avoidance of this line of questioning by the DA indicate?

By avoiding discussion of PF’s typical behaviour, we get no sense of SF2’s reaction to PF being 2 hours late. This means no reference to his mother’s behaviour during those 2 hours. Eg. was she mad? Calling PF every 20 minutes? Agitated? Calm? Wryly smiling?

MOO

They say no questions should be asked of witnesses unless you know the answers.

Could be the Frazee family doesn't ever show much emotion in dealing with each other.
 
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September 2018 - PF hatches new plan, not custody, just get rid of KB

Right after his father passed away. Amazing, isn't it?

Just what did this fool want custody for, knowing full well he was going to get kicked off the ranch with his mother eventually to sell it? Was he using Baby K as a way to stop the siblings from making him sell the ranch, because his daughter needed a place to live? I wouldn't put it past this idiot to try for custody for this reason.

It actually scares me, to be honest, just the thought of Baby K in his custody. His temper, his treatment of animals, and most of all, his treatment of Kelsey makes me think he wouldn't hesitate to abuse his own daughter down the road.
 
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Seriously, five bank DEPOSITS on 22nd? Did he steal cash from her? Is that what the the other charge (killed in the course of a felony?) is about?

And 1 December household waste dump. Was that the one we watched unfold?
those 5 deposits were probably clients from his farrier biz or his dog training?
 
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After today I’m very curious about those bank deposits and the withdrawal.
He spent 8 minutes in front of the ATM?!! o_O (And I don't think this was waiting in line)....

Footage from the camera attached to the ATM at the ENT Credit Union shows Frazee pulling up at 12:42 p.m., according to Courtney. He spent eight minutes at the ATM. At 12:46 p.m., it snapped a photo of him looking at the machine with his baby daughter visible in the front seat.

Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive
 
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I think they are going to say that he broke up with Kelsey, she was upset and told him to take the baby so she could rest. Then she got drunk and passed out. He called his girlfriend to tell her he had broken up with KB, and then his girlfriend traveled from Idaho, snuck into the condo and killed the drunk ex girlfriend.

And PF told those lies to try and cover for his girlfriend. The End.
I don't think that's going to work.
First of all he's already said that Kelsey is the one who wanted to break things off and wanted some space.
If he called KK on the 22nd and she didn't get there until the 24th KB wouldn't still be in the condo passed out.

Anyway, they are claiming KK killed her somewhere else besides the condo but where that place is, nobody knows.

Imo
 
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He spent 8 minutes in front of the ATM?!! o_O (And I don't think this was waiting in line)....

Footage from the camera attached to the ATM at the ENT Credit Union shows Frazee pulling up at 12:42 p.m., according to Courtney. He spent eight minutes at the ATM. At 12:46 p.m., it snapped a photo of him looking at the machine with his baby daughter visible in the front seat.

Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive
He’s a slow reader. Obviously.

Probably pushed the wrong button one or two dozen times.
 
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Kelsey Berreth murder case: Patrick Frazee’s brother — who is a Colorado police officer — takes stand in murder trial – Canon City Daily Record

SABBM:
Sean Frazee, a spitting image of his brother albeit with a mustache, described his relationship with his brother as distant.

“I don’t know that we’ve been on bad terms, we just haven’t been close,” Sean Frazee said of his brother.

Sean Frazee was not asked by either prosecutors or his brother’s public defenders whether his brother acted differently during Thanksgiving dinner at their mother’s Florissant home, and Sean Frazee did not offer up any such analysis.

Sean Frazee said he arrived at the Florissant ranch about 2:30 p.m. on Thanksgiving. Patrick Frazee and did not arrive at the house until about 5 p.m., after the family had already eaten, he said. Patrick brought his and Berreth’s daughter, Kaylee, with him, Sean Frazee said.

Patrick Frazee previously had told his brother that he and Kelsey Berreth had separated, and on Dec. 3 Patrick Frazee told his brother that Berreth’s mother had reported her missing, Sean Frazee said.

“He explained to me that her grandmother was sick and that she may have been visiting her sick grandmother,” Sean Frazee said.

Sean Frazee was concerned, he said, but didn’t know what to think because he didn’t know Berreth.


“We were really praying that she would be found healthy and alive somewhere,” he said.
Mods please don't get me in trouble for this:
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Sean, what do you mean you didn't know what to think?? There's a police report filed for a missing person, and YOU are law enforcement. Didn't matter if they were broke up or not she is the mother of your niece!!!!!
Since you're law enforcement I would guess you had some kind of training on this!
 
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NOV 5, 2019
Last images showing Kelsey Berreth alive shown at Patrick Frazee trial
The last images showing Kelsey Berreth alive were shown to a jury in Teller County on Tuesday.

[...]

When Berreth was reported missing, Sean Frazee said his brother told him, “(Kelsey) had some issues with alcohol and may be in treatment.”

Sean Frazee said he was with his brother when an investigator asked him to give them his cellphone.

“I told Patrick to hand over his phone,” Sean Frazee said.

Investigators said in court that it was cellphone records that helped break the case.

[...]
 
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Found this little tidbit regarding inheritance distribution....

Could the siblings be trying to recoup from the wayward brother?.... Imho
  • Advancements. If you gave a gift to a relative during your lifetime, the value of this property is subtracted from that relative’s share only if you stated this in writing or the relative admitted this in writing.
Intestate Succession in Colorado
Good find thank you/ the issue I see is that SF owned the ranch outright - if she died without a Will the siblings may be able to claim something since he lived there but I really don’t think so - I just don’t think the fight over the fathers estate concerned the ranch property at all - which begs the question - what made up his estate that they could possibly fight over ? Does a will need to be filed in CO? In my state it does within 10 days of death - then anyone can go to the clerks office and get a copy if they pay the fee
 
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Quite possibly, or checks.

Yes, I think that was that dump run. LE took in what he dumped. 70 yards of something.
Yes and remember how most everyone here said "No way PF dumped anything incriminating at the local dump spot, he can't be that stupid"? Well.........

PF is the 'stupid' gift that just keeps on giving and I am thankful for it. :D
 
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I wonder when KK will make her appearance?
 
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Yes and remember how most everyone here said "No way PF dumped anything incriminating at the local dump spot, he can't be that stupid"? Well.........

PF is the 'stupid' gift that just keeps on giving and I am thankful for it. :D
Honestly, I never ever thought I'd say this but he is STUPIDER than Chris Watts! Now, that is baaaaaaaaad. MOO
 
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SF owns the ranch. MOO
So then I guess we don't know anything about the other property or who may be living there now.
Was it Frazee who did not want to sell it and the siblings did or was that just speculation?
I wonder if it is one of the siblings who wanted the others to buy them out? Maybe it was actually PF who wanted to sell it.

I guess we'll know more details later.

Imo
 
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They say no questions should be asked of witnesses unless you know the answers.

Could be the Frazee family doesn't show much emotion in dealing with each other.
I was thinking that as well. None of the Frazee clan seem to be oozing with emotion and it wouldn't surprise me to think PF showed up to dinner acting exactly like his normal 'blobby' self, which to any normal person sounds cray cray.
 
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Daniela Leon‏Verified account @danielaleontv
#UPDATE our cameras caught #Frazee leaving court today after day 3 of his trial. As you can see he’s dawning a red shirt, a different look than why we’re used to.

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3:42 PM - 5 Nov 2019
 
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Right after his father passed away. Amazing, isn't it?

Just what did this fool want custody for, knowing full well he was going to get kicked off the ranch with his mother eventually to sell it? Was he using Baby K as a way to stop the siblings from making him sell the ranch, because his daughter needed a place to live? I wouldn't put it past this idiot to try for custody for this reason.

It actually scares me, to be honest, just the thought of Baby K in his custody. His temper, his treatment of animals, and most of all, his treatment of Kelsey makes me think he wouldn't hesitate to abuse his own daughter down the road.

I agree, one of the BEST things they did was get that baby away from him.
 
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I don't think that's going to work.
First of all he's already said that Kelsey is the one who wanted to break things off and wanted some space.
If he called KK on the 22nd and she didn't get there until the 24th KB wouldn't still be in the condo passed out.

Anyway, they are claiming KK killed her somewhere else besides the condo but where that place is, nobody knows.

Imo
Yah, don't think it will work for most of the jurors. Just trying to guess at the 'shape' of their defense narrative.

They are going to grab onto the state's assertion that not ALL comings and goings are on surveillance footage. So they can possibly get the jury to agree that NOT seeing Kelsey leave is not solid proof that she was deceased when PF was seen leaving with the baby.

It just goes to the dangerous terrain of reasonable doubt.

And it does change the timeline. If they can convince the jury that she was drunk and depressed, she might have sat alone in her condo for 48 hours, without communicating.

And even if he said she was the one who broke up, they can still say it was mutual, but she was having mental issues, etc. I don't think many people would believe that. But it just takes one.
 
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He spent 8 minutes in front of the ATM?!! o_O (And I don't think this was waiting in line)....

Footage from the camera attached to the ATM at the ENT Credit Union shows Frazee pulling up at 12:42 p.m., according to Courtney. He spent eight minutes at the ATM. At 12:46 p.m., it snapped a photo of him looking at the machine with his baby daughter visible in the front seat.

Nov. 22, 2018: What Patrick Frazee, Kelsey Berreth were doing on the last day she was seen alive
Well I’m sure that machine was confusing for good ol’ PF. ;)
 
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