CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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  • #421
Per Ashley Franco Video:

KK sent a text with a picture of a positive pregnancy test to PF after she found out she was pregnant in March 2016. He never replied back or even acknowledged it. After a while KK called PF and asked "what do you think", and she said he was furious. PF said the baby would be a '🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬' and people would know about them. She decided to terminate the pregnancy.
Again we are putting the puzzle together in his defunked personality.
 
  • #422
I just don't get it. They lived many hours apart and he still had this hold on her? How? Obviously they would each have their own lives. She had a job and children and friends. How could he have so much power over her?
All I can think of is that she was desperate to be loved or desired. So desperate she seriously considered killing. So how does a beauty queen get that desperate? You'd think she'd have so much better choices in ID. Pretty. much. any. other. guy!
And psycho? How did her neediness cause her to so DESPERATELY want her rival murdered. What is it? Some kind of 'if you really love me you'll kill her' thing. Oh boy, the psychologists are going to have a field day.
 
  • #423
How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.
 
  • #424
I think when “chemistry” is one-sided, it might more rightly be called “delusion”.
Yes, there's a delusion to it. The fantasy she had in her head was not the reality of what she really had.
 
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While waiting for the next update, can someone remind me what it was that PF said to KK (KL) about baby K? I forget if it was before or after the murder and it was something KK(KL) said. After reading about the testimony today I don't dare want to think that KK (KL) ever thought with KB out of the picture she would now so call, share, a baby with PF after having terminated her baby with PF. One happy little family to her?? :( TIA because I really don't want my mind to go down that path.
 
  • #427
the mind of a murderer... I don't think many of us can begin to understand how he thinks IMO

poor KB and the whole family (hers) I just feel so sad for them hearing all of this. JMO
 
  • #428
Much, much worse. We haven't even gotten to the clean-up of the townhouse or the bonfire at the ranchette. :(

Prayers for strength going up for the Berreth family and all who loved Kelsey. MOO
Yes, prayers for Kelsey's family. And prayers that KK and PF's family will tell the complete truth so that the Berreth family can have justice.
 
  • #429
How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.
KK was married to another man at the time. And she had two kids already.

KB - never been married, and no other kids. I think that’s why he took more pride in that child.
 
  • #430
I keep telling myself I need a break from this... And I get away from these updates. I find them very upsetting.

Then I can't help myself and go to the next posted update.

Uggggggg.....
 
  • #431
PF is the ultimate evil...
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
That or Anti-social personality Disorder.

He seems more like a psychopath to me.

Imo
 
  • #432
OMG keeping up with this thread today is going to be bananas! Who here is having a hard time pretending to work right now as KK takes the stand???
**RAISES HAND**
Darn work keeps interrupting me while I am trying to keep up here !!!
 
  • #433
OMG keeping up with this thread today is going to be bananas! Who here is having a hard time pretending to work right now as KK takes the stand???
I am!! Two pages behind right now, and I'm sure it's going to get worse. I NEED to do some work!!
Anyway KL cleared up the rumors about her pregnancies for openers and credited her ex, CL with being a super nice guy and a great dad. That's what I have so far...
 
  • #434
Poor CB, as a mom I’m sure she has been questioning if PF EVER cared about KB, even a little bit.....today solidifies it for her, he NEVER did. Heartbreaking.
 
  • #435
**RAISES HAND**
Darn work keeps interrupting me while I am trying to keep up here !!!
I was supposed to go to work today. I took it off to be here.

However, I am sick to my stomach and am numb all over.
 
  • #436
Poor CB, as a mom I’m sure she has been questioning if PF EVER cared about KB, even a little bit.....today solidifies it for her, he NEVER did. Heartbreaking.
He said these things to KK, how did he talk to KB??? Remember from all his craziness and meanness she held a gun up to her head and said maybe life it be just better if I was dead.
 
  • #437
Apologies trying to keep up. Questions:

1) Did KL get pregnant twice by PF?
2). Did she have abortions both times?

TIA
 
  • #438
While waiting for the next update, can someone remind me what it was that PF said to KK (KL) about baby K? I forget if it was before or after the murder and it was something KK(KL) said. After reading about the testimony today I don't dare want to think that KK (KL) ever thought with KB out of the picture she would now so call, share, a baby with PF after having terminated her baby with PF. One happy little family to her?? :( TIA because I really don't want my mind to go down that path.

Are you thinking of when PF told KK that he cared more than she did about baby KB2? If KK wouldn't cooperate and kill KB?
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Little girls go missing from the playground (or something to that effect). Though I think if he said that it meant KK's kids. Or so she thought.

That's all I can think of...guess we will hear more after KK's done and court ends for day. Staying tuned!
 
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Are you thinking of when PF told KK that he cared more than she did about baby KB2? If KK wouldn't cooperate and kill KB?
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Little girls go missing from the playground (or something to that effect). Though I think if he said that it meant KK's kids. Or so she thought.

That's all I can think of...guess we will hear more after KK's done and court ends for day. Staying tuned!
That's it. That he cared more than she did about KB2! Thank You....
 
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