CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[muppethead]

Every single day after court his attorneys must meet with him and beg for permission to plea bargain. Every single day. Maybe he just doesn't care and wants it all to play out and bring this cast of characters down with him. He doesn't have anything else to do.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Anyone else trying to have sympathy for KKL and just can’t? If PF is dumb, then meet dumber. He threatens to kill her dog, he states she is either a baby killer or she isn’t, he never goes to Idaho to see her yet she drives to CO for sex with him repeatedly, she gets an abortion to please him and on it goes. Then she helps him plan a murder, attempts murder of Kelsey with poisoned coffee and the jury is supposed to feel sorry for her?! Oh wait. That’s not all. She cleans up a murder scene?! He may go away for life and should. But a lifetime of karma isn’t enough for this woman. She needs to be right there with him.

I have Exactly Zero.

 

[MemPat]

Patrick Frazee’s ex-girlfriend takes stand at Kelsey Berreth murder trial
SABBM:

In March 2016, Kenney said, she found out she was pregnant with Frazee’s child. Kenney said she ended the pregnancy, but told Frazee she had a miscarriage. She filed for divorce from Lee in May 2016.

In March 2018, which was after Frazee and Berreth’s baby was born, Kenney testified that she met Frazee in Colorado and they “made love” at his home.

Kenney testified that Frazee never mentioned that he had a baby and that she eventually found out from a mutual friend.

I wonder if they "made love" in payment for her helping him mend a fence or clean up whatever the nasty mess was on the franch (Who knows what that was!).

To drive repeatedly from so far away only to be treated like garbage makes you wonder what kind of life KK had as a child....zero self esteem it seems. Yet she became a Rodeo Queen.....so strange.

 

[Steelslady]

the mind of a murderer... I don't think many of us can begin to understand how he thinks IMO

poor KB and the whole family (hers) I just feel so sad for them hearing all of this. JMO

My heart also breaks for KK's ex husband and their children. This has to be so hard to hear, and you know he will hear about it for sure. Over that varmint, he lost a wife who got pregnant by him while being married to CL, to which they had their own family.

 

[Simply Southern]

I can't imagine what the defense team is thinking?

I know its their job and someone has to represent him. But my goodness, what a burden to bare.

I'd have to resign, turn in my license ... whatever, but I could not defend this ....this....this whatever it is.

Moo

 

[PiertotumLocomotor]

PF is the ultimate evil...
Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

THIS.

I've developed a sick feeling in my stomach, not just from how horribly KB was treated, but because I know how it felt to be in a relationship with a narc like PF. It's eerie how similar my ex and PF treated people.

He is a user, he charms you, traps you in. Then he breaks you down - breaks down your confidence, your self-esteem. Then you feel so worthless that you think no one else could possibly love you, and you're thankful that the narc is with you. The narc gives you just enough affection to keep you close, but far and few in between. Then when he gets what he wants from you, he's done with you just like that.

I'm in no way defending KK at ALL. I just see how she got caught in his web.

To a point. Girl, you're married with kids. You're hundreds of miles away. No one is making you answer his texts, no one is making you drive to him... and being the victim of emotional abuse by a narc does not excuse you from being part of a murder! Instead of driving to CO, she should have driven herself to the closest police department!

 

[Colorado303]

Anyone else trying to have sympathy for KKL and just can’t? If PF is dumb, then meet dumber. He threatens to kill her dog, he states she is either a baby killer or she isn’t, he never goes to Idaho to see her yet she drives to CO for sex with him repeatedly, she gets an abortion to please him and on it goes. Then she helps him plan a murder, attempts murder of Kelsey with poisoned coffee and the jury is supposed to feel sorry for her?! Oh wait. That’s not all. She cleans up a murder scene?! He may go away for life and should. But a lifetime of karma isn’t enough for this woman. She needs to be right there with him.

I’m not even trying. Not going to try either. I hope her testimony buries him but after that her usefulness to the planet is over IMO. She deserves to be miserable for the rest of her days.

 

[Lhughessk]

I wonder if they "made love" in payment for her helping him mend a fence or clean up whatever the nasty mess was on the franch (Who knows what that was!).

To drive repeatedly from so far away only to be treated like garbage makes you wonder what kind of life KK had as a child....zero self esteem it seems. Yet she became a Rodeo Queen.....so strange.

What I really want to know is if she had sex with him after the cleanup and bonfire. That would be “special place in Hell” material right there..

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Probably because the two people involved are just like some of the characters portrayed in Soaps.

Is General Hospital still around?

Birds of a feather.

 

[scdiv]

This was the part about KL's dog from The Denver Post recap. And yet she still was in love with this man??

Kelsey Berreth murder case: Mistress Krystal Lee Kenney takes stand in Patrick Frazee murder trial

They broke up in August 2007, but kept in contact. In 2008, he offered to give her a border collie puppy and she drove down to Colorado to get it. She still had feelings for Frazee then, she said, and Frazee said she had to choose between him and a man she was dating, Chad Lee.

She left with the dog and kept dating the other man, Chad. But months later, Frazee said she needed to give the dog back or pay for it. When she refused, Frazee threatened to drive to Idaho and kill the dog.

 

[Steelslady]

How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.

This is probably a terrible analogy, but all I can think about is Princess Diana and Camille. For some reason, he felt that Kelsey was good enough, twice, to try and have a baby with. With Krystal, she was pretty much good for a few things, but not carrying his child.

Good grief, thank goodness she didn't have that child with him- imagine the exorcism that would have been needed at the Franch, after having two women with babies dragging poor ole Patrick down, sucking up all of his money and time. ggggrrrr

 

[Oregon]

How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.

We don’t know that he was happy. We only know that KB had the baby and he had to deal with it...and the rest of the story is horrific.

 

[tmar]

i remember when this case started there were reports of PF saying something to the effect that LE was "piling on" , or something like that, if i've kept my cases straight. wonder how Pf is feeling now? ha ha

Now, everyone is 'piling it on'.
Thank goodness.
I think this pile will grow huge, covering PF with ####

 

[Seattle1]

I wonder if they "made love" in payment for her helping him mend a fence or clean up whatever the nasty mess was on the franch (Who knows what that was!).

To drive repeatedly from so far away only to be treated like garbage makes you wonder what kind of life KK had as a child....zero self esteem it seems. Yet she became a Rodeo Queen.....so strange.

No, the whole Rodeo Queen was trying to buy herself some praise, attention, and esteem and she felt like a fraud with every ribbon she collected. She just met her manipulator match when it came to PF. This was no "love connection" they shared. MOO

 

[in search of]

In The Denver Channels article it talks about PF texting KL asking if she still likes her kids in late October 2017

What in the world did he mean by that?

 

[Ccging]

She didn't have to do it. She had a choice.

Oh I completely agree.

Guess I should have said she felt like he wanted her to get rid of her baby, but he wanted KB to keep hers (or something like that). At any rate KK had to feel hurt and betrayed by him.

 

[PiertotumLocomotor]

All I can think of is that she was desperate to be loved or desired. So desperate she seriously considered killing. So how does a beauty queen get that desperate? You'd think she'd have so much better choices in ID. Pretty. much. any. other. guy!
And psycho? How did her neediness cause her to so DESPERATELY want her rival murdered. What is it? Some kind of 'if you really love me you'll kill her' thing. Oh boy, the psychologists are going to have a field day.

Agreed.

I'm sure we've all been manipulated. But there's a big and defined line between those experiences and being so desperate that you consider killing not once, twice, but three times.

She fell far off somewhere and she only has herself to blame. No matter how manipulative and evil PF is, she's still responsible for her actions.

 

[Simply Southern]

She didn't have to do it. She had a choice.

Yes, she had a choice. But like PF, she wanted, what she wanted and didn't give a r@ts a$$ how she got it.

She is no better than he is.

Imo...

 

[Hatfield]

She didn't have to do it. She had a choice.

So true. And at any time before, during, or after the murder she could have walked into the nearest police station to share everything she knew. She did none of that until she was caught and confronted by LE.

Makes me wonder about the phone call PF made to KK after he killed KB. Something PF said about "You have a mess to clean up" or something along those lines.

Just speculating. Does that statement imply KK may have promised to PF before the murder that if he killed KB she would promise to help clean up/cover up the crime?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Yes, she had a choice. But like PF, she wanted, what she wanted and didn't give a r@ts a$$ how she got it.

She is no better than he is.

Imo...

Exactly.