CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

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  • #541
How could PF have been happy re: Kelsey’s baby when he reacted so badly to KK’s baby of his? Man what a mess on so many levels.

Right?

He doesn't want a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 child because KK was married, but he's okay with baby K because neither he or KB were married?

Okay...
 
  • #542
Right. As if she didn't have a choice to not get the abortion,or help kill Kelsey.
MOO.
Well, if she had gone through with the pregnancy there would be yet another child of his that would be a victim in this tragedy.
 
  • #543
Probably because the two people involved are just like some of the characters portrayed in Soaps.

Is General Hospital still around?

General Hospital is still around and is filled with sensationalism. I'm fairly certain it is impossible for doctors to transfer memories from one brain to another brain.

I'll believe PF threatened KK's child when I see more proof than just words out of her mouth.

JMO
 
  • #544
RSABBM:

And that's the nicest thing that can be said for him.

Once you've said that, the descriptors become much less flattering.

He's a walking TOS violation.
An absolute inspiration for the more colorful adjectives in the English language. MOO
 
  • #545
Railroaded. I recall PF saying he felt railroaded. Right about now he should be feeling that train just drove straight over his body.
Ha! He sure looked railroaded in that video of him coming out of the courthouse yesterday.
 
  • #546
In The Denver Channels article it talks about PF texting KL asking if she still likes her kids in late October 2017

What in the world did he mean by that?
I also found that odd. Wonder if it was a threat by KK's ex-husband that she would lose custody if she inched closer to PF in Colorado. Maybe PF asking if her kids were still too important to come serve him. o_O
 
  • #547
For those wondering why in the world KK kept going back to him. I would point out that KB probably experienced a lot of the same coldness from him that KK did. Yet she stayed. And despite no commitment from him, she got pregnant not just once but twice. And when he stopped paying support for months, she still wanted it to work and was excited about spending the holidays with him.

Not trying to lift up KK or bring down KB. I’m just saying that a psychological torturer like PF finds ways to keep you in his web even while actively doing things to cause you harm. He probably makes a sport of it, seeing just how far he can go and still keep you wanting him.
 
  • #548
As for the 47 minute call the night of the 22nd PF calling KK on a land line-----can't wait to hear about this! Did I hear from MassGuy there was more than one call that night?
 
  • #549
Did Kelsey ever find out about KK?

I don't think so because I think one of his murder ideas was for KK to pretend to be a neighbor and bring her the poisoned coffee under the ruse of a welcome gift? I think?

Poor KB. She did not see any of this coming. She deserved so much more.
 
  • #550
Right. As if she didn't have a choice to not get the abortion,or help kill Kelsey.
MOO.
My fear is that jurors are forming the same opinion as have many of the rest of us.
JMO
 
  • #551
Right?

He doesn't want a 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 child because KK was married, but he's okay with baby K because neither he or KB were married?

Okay...
He doesn’t care that he isn’t married to her. He does care that she isn’t married to someone else and having kids by someone else.
 
  • #552
As for the 47 minute call the night of the 22nd PF calling KK on a land line-----can't wait to hear about this! Did I hear from MassGuy there was more than one call that night?
Yes! He first called her after he loaded KB's lifeless body into his truck -- you've got a mess to come clean up. (Around 4:30p).
 
  • #553
My fear is that jurors are forming the same opinion as have many of the rest of us.
JMO
It doesn't make him any less guilty.
 
  • #554
What I really want to know is if she had sex with him after the cleanup and bonfire. That would be “special place in Hell” material right there..
Did she have a hotel for a night or two?
 
  • #555
Poor CB, as a mom I’m sure she has been questioning if PF EVER cared about KB, even a little bit.....today solidifies it for her, he NEVER did. Heartbreaking.
Am I the only one wondering about the possibility that there might be a couple of more Kelsey's out there, that even his family and friends don't know about? KK said before to her best friend, that he said something that alluded to him possibly murdering others.

Look how far these women lived from Patrick. KK in Idaho, Kelsey in Washington. Was there more?
 
  • #556
THIS.

I've developed a sick feeling in my stomach, not just from how horribly KB was treated, but because I know how it felt to be in a relationship with a narc like PF. It's eerie how similar my ex and PF treated people.

He is a user, he charms you, traps you in. Then he breaks you down - breaks down your confidence, your self-esteem. Then you feel so worthless that you think no one else could possibly love you, and you're thankful that the narc is with you. The narc gives you just enough affection to keep you close, but far and few in between. Then when he gets what he wants from you, he's done with you just like that.

I'm in no way defending KK at ALL. I just see how she got caught in his web.

To a point. Girl, you're married with kids. You're hundreds of miles away. No one is making you answer his texts, no one is making you drive to him... and being the victim of emotional abuse by a narc does not excuse you from being part of a murder! Instead of driving to CO, she should have driven herself to the closest police department!


There are so many times, KK could have 'stopped the murder' by going to the Police.
Now she is in Court.

I hope in your case, you have overcome your jerk.
They seem to be everywhere.

I saw a beautiful young women being interviewed on TV here in Australia (not sure where from!!).
She spoke about being happy, being single, and called it 'self partnering'.
Perhaps a new term for many happy single women, content in their lives.
This created a great deal of discussion on the 'talk show'.
I loved it.
Ladies, if you can quickly run away, once things go south.
But I guess, once you're involved, emotions come into play, and we hear of these horrid cases.

Here, PF is squirming, as his personality characteristics are being revealed.:D:D:D
Fantastic....keep going.
He is being fried, moment by moment.
Hope his blood pressure hits the roof, and in his cell, officers forget to check on his well being.
 
  • #557
It doesn't make him any less guilty.
Exactly. Question KK’s motives all you want, but it doesn’t change the mountain of evidence against him, and any testimony by KK that is corroborated by this evidence.
 
  • #558
My fear is that jurors are forming the same opinion as have many of the rest of us.
JMO

Weird. One person’s fear is another person’s hope I guess. I am hoping the jurors are feeling like the majority of us here do. Then it’s bye bye d*ckh**d
 
  • #559
Did she have a hotel for a night or two?
No. According to the phone records she left ID on the 23rd, arrived on the 24th, and left to go back on the 24th.
 
  • #560
As for the 47 minute call the night of the 22nd PF calling KK on a land line-----can't wait to hear about this! Did I hear from MassGuy there was more than one call that night?
Yep.

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
Cell phone records also showed calls between #PatrickFrazee and his mistress, Krystal Lee Kenney, the beginning Thanksgiving evening and into the next day.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth
10:36 AM - 6 Nov 2019

Ashley Franco on Twitter
The special agent is basically walking us through that. He's also showing us times #PatrickFrazee called Krsytal Lee specifically on Thanksgiving day later in the day from his landline. One call lasting aprox 47 minutes. @KKTV11News
10:28 AM - 6 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Hoyland notes Frazee made some very lengthy calls, one nearly an hour, from the Ranch landline to Krystal Kenney the night of Nov. 22. He’s also just starting to show Kenney’s phone travel down from ID on Nov. 23 & return early Nov. 25. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee
10:28 AM - 6 Nov 2019
 
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