CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #60

[tmar]

According to 9News KUSA:

PF told KK that he cleaned up at Kelsey's and washed his clothes there.

This tight couldn't bag them, to destroy them later.
So did he then use the drier.
A real moron.
There would be shirts of Kelsey he could wear and pants he could cut so they may cover his ugly bum, but PF needed this outfit as precious.
Hope there is blood evidence near the washing machine, or did delicate try hand washing.

 

[Warwick7]

Ashley Franco on Twitter
BREAKING: Krystal Lee tells court #PatrickFrazee told her #KelseyBerreth last words to him were “Please stop”. @KKTV11News
5:12 PM - 6 Nov 2019

I am back only cause I can't stay away.
I ended up throwing up.
Yellow acid and gagging in all.
I sat on the toilet and cried.
I never knew Kelsey but I my heart is breaking......
:0(

 

[MsBetsy]

I believe pf could be convicted even without kk's testimony. She just corroborated evidence, phone records, and provided unknown facts. But there was plenty of evidence out there without her.
Jurors these days want a lot, hence kk's testimony.

I think they needed her testimony because there was no body.

Imo

 

[girlhasnoname]

So if the murder occurred after 2:20 and he had clean clothes at 4:20 he would have had to be done by 3 to wash and dry assuming 45 min or so per cycle ? That’s pretty close and I wonder if they did take the shower drain and washer apart after she talked ?
JMO

Why are you saying after 2:20?

 

[zea mays]

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

Because her daughter would be a missing person? Because KK knew KB was dead? And either she cleaned it up or her mom would see it like that when she came to try and find KB. Seems pretty straightforward, IMO.

 

[MassGuy]

I believe pf could be convicted even without kk's testimony. She just corroborated evidence, phone records, and provided unknown facts. But there was plenty of evidence out there without her.
Jurors these days want a lot, hence kk's testimony.

Without her though they wouldn’t have known the crime scene, or how this all went down (Nash, Fire, misdirection).

They would know that Kelsey was likely dead, and who did it.

But they couldn’t prove those things. KK would go down for lying to the FBI, and PF might have gone on to raise his daughter and abuse his farm animals.

That wouldn’t be justice.

 

[Warwick7]

Well then, as I feared, if that’s true, the first blow did not kill her. I hoped it had.

Dear god, poor CB upon hearing this. I.just.can’t.

This is a bit too much...way too much.

 

[oviedo]

Why are you saying after 2:20?

She did a web search for a recipe at 2:20 it’s upthread

 

[yawningreyhound]

His abuse towards horses was more than enough for me.

Yeah, there's that old school of dog training: Negative Reinforcement. Fear Training. Things have evolved now to clicker training and Positive Reinforcement. PF was especially into fear training from what I saw on the YouTube videos. I'm a vet tech who spent all of my cont ed time in behavior classes. There's absolutely no excuse for his training methods. They're effective if you like being feared by your animal.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't disagree, but I'm curious what the question she was responding to was. I've just seen this quoted as an answer without context. The context may change how I feel about this answer. But, probably not.

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

 

[yawningreyhound]

His abuse towards horses was more than enough for me.

Yeah, there's that old school of dog training: Negative Reinforcement. Fear Training. Things have evolved now to clicker training and Positive Reinforcement. PF was especially into fear training from what I saw on the YouTube videos. I'm a vet tech who spent all of my cont ed time in behavior classes. There's absolutely no excuse for his training methods. They're effective if you like being feared by your animal.

 

[zea mays]

Why are you saying after 2:20?

Because one of the tweets indicated there was an internet search for a recipe at 2:20pm and no more internet activity after that. Also, the camera only sees PF after that time as well - no more KB.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't disagree, but I'm curious what the question she was responding to was. I've just seen this quoted as an answer without context. The context may change how I feel about this answer. But, probably not.

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

 

[justaparent]

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

No doubt because most mothers would be there as soon as it became likely their child was missing. It was impossible to stall mom forever.

MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

According to 9News KUSA:

PF told KK that he cleaned up at Kelsey's and washed his clothes there.

The DA kept telling us he had no blood on him.

Murder, shower, laundry, dinner with mom, and a long love chat...what a hell of a Thanksgiving Day.

Moo

 

[MassGuy]

Sam answering a question about how KK entered KB’s house.

She had the keys from Frazee. Walked through the front door

Sam Kraemer on Twitter

 

[zea mays]

The DA kept telling us he had no blood on him.

Murder, shower, laundry, dinner with mom, and a long love chat...what a hell of a Thanksgiving Day.

Moo

Ohhhh.....where was KB2 while he was showering? Please, please let her have been safely in a crib away from everything.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I'm curious how KK knew at that point that KB's mother would be coming to the condo.

JMO

All crime scenes have photos taken by forensics - hence KB's mother and one day her daughter would be privy to them. MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes washed clothes @ condo

Took bat in wrapped in his sweatshirt.

Oh wow! So that answers how he got the murder weapon inside.

 

[MassGuy]

Late today, they said Frazee washed his clothes while he was at Berreth’s townhome. That’s according to Krystal Kenney

Sam Kraemer on Twitter

 

[girlhasnoname]

She did a web search for a recipe at 2:20 it’s upthread

I thought that was 11:20 am or something?

 

[MassGuy]

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