CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

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  • #1,621
Thanks - a quick google of CC shows a bunch of these interviews which show a clear bias IMO against KB.
Not only that Her family and loved ones had to witness him Bash KB, while Braaaaaying about how poor PF was being picked on.
 
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Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Defense questions witness on the dog’s search of house. Reminds jurors that Lucy didn’t find any smells on the couch, living room floor, cedar chest, fireplace, or stairs – all places that Krystal says there was blood (before she cleaned)
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Next we hear from “Abbey” Abbondandolo, who works for St. Luke's Health System in Idaho and oversees security for the system. He testifies that he was asked to review an employee’s (Krystal Lee) access badge records for 11/23/18.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Abbey testifies that Krystal’s badge was used her the hospital where she worked starting about 5:25am on 11/23/18 until about 4:45pm. Looks like prosecution is trying to prove Krystal is in Idaho on 11/23/18
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019
 
  • #1,623
Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
A lighter moment, in the middle of this very sad case:
Radar’s handler says he would have brought Radar to court today but “he’s a really big dog and would throw slobber everywhere
Judge Sells replies “Thank you.”
Courtroom crowd giggles
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019
Snipped for those of us who appreciate lighter moments. I thought this was hilarious!
 
  • #1,624
Boom!

Also: Footage was shown at the Conoco gas station in Florissant. It included video of #PatrickFrazee filling up a six-gallon, faded red gas can with gasoline. Prosecutors say he later used that gas to fuel the fire that he lit to burn #KelseyBerreth's body.
@csgazette

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

Finally, the footage showed #PatrickFrazee's truck and the black car used by Krystal Lee pulling in and out of the gas station throughout the late afternoon and evening of Nov. 24.
@csgazette #KelseyBerreth

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter
I have a sneaky suspicion that Patrick is not going to be feeling well quite a lot from here on out! This case is being brilliantly presented. There is just so much corroboration for KK’s testimony. They are laying a beautiful foundation and house, sans the cracks! Looks like the defense just does not have much to work with - my guess is PK is not much help as he continues to lie and know nothing.

It gives me chills to think he likely would have heard of the Watts case before he did this (same state) and thought he improved on the process for making your significant other go missing. It takes a special kind of evil combined with abject stupidity and an inability to accurately see the consequences to go out and commit a crime like this when you statistically will be suspect number 1. I am sure he thought he was home free when there would be no body and no weapon to be found. Thank goodness we now have the technology and science to make these items no longer necessary to convict.

This evidence could not be more damning if they had him on voicemail confessing! Speaking of which, I wonder if they contemplated trying to get KK to talk to PF by phone and record.
 
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Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Krystal Lee’s father also took the stand. Testified that he spent Thanksgiving 2018 with his daughter (at her home, hosting a lot of family). That was 11/22/18. Said he also saw Krystal the next evening, 11/23/18.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Krystal Lee testified that after she cleaned up Kelsey ‘s house on 11/24/18, she went to Sonic to get food for Patrick and his daughter. A Sonic employee took the stand this this AM, testifying that she provided police surveillance video from that day
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Prosecution shows still pictures, taken from surveillance video from Woodland Park Sonic on 11/24/18. We see a black car in drive through (which Krystal said she drove) and a blonde woman inside. Prosecution says that woman is Krystal Lee.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Krystal testified that on 11/24/18, after cleanup and Sonic, she met Patrick at his ranch where he told her about the murder, then she went back to Woodland Park to send a text from Kelsey’s phone, then she drove to the Florissant Conoco to meet Patrick again.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019
 
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Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Krystal testified that she and Patrick left the Conoco together in his truck to go retrieve the tote with Kelsey’s body inside from Nash Ranch, then later to Patricks ranch to burn the body. Prosecutors show Conoco surveillance, attempting to corroborate timelines
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Prosecution shows photos & videos from Conoco surveillance on 11/24/18 afternoon, showing Krystal’s black car & Frazee’s red truck there multiple times throughout the afternoon and evening.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Conoco video (11/24/18 ~4:30) also shows Frazee retrieve a gas can from his truck bed & fill it up. Krystal testified that Patrick used a gas can for the fire when he burned Kelsey’s body, & later showed investigators where it was on his property.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019
 
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Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Prosecution pulls the gas can out of a evidence box in the courtroom, and shows it to the jury. Former Woodland Park PD Commander Christopher Adams (now CBI) said thats the gas can he saw Frazee fill up
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
We end morning testimony, still reviewing surveillance from Conoco. Break for lunch. We'll be back in court shortly after 1pm today
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019
 
  • #1,628
So how exactly did KK know the body was in the tote? Why wasn’t she more specific about that in her testimony? Did she ask? Did PF tell her? Why wasn’t she more clearly asked about it by the lawyers? I see no way the two of them did not discuss this the entire weekend. It’s weird to me.
I've always wanted to know how KK perceived PF's handling of the tote. How HEAVY was it?? Easy enough to swing around a tote with a few bloody cloths and toys in it. Not quite the same with a 110lb. body. Takes a little more "muscle". Maybe somebody should ask her that question. JMHO
 
  • #1,629
Right. A lot of people just hate anyone who says anything positive about pf.
I get that. Maybe this guy didn't know kb traveled for work, so he said, "disappeared" he never impied she was a "druggie" and he really isn't that important to the case.

Newbie, but I've followed this from the early days. All this talk around CC and his insinuations about Kelsey remind me that there was someone posting to the Kelsey thread in the very early days that said disparaging comments about her. And the comments were similar to what CC said to the media. It was gross. Reminded me of the same type of messages on the Watts thread about Shannan. Very upsetting. I've tried to find the ones about Kelsey and can't. I assume they were removed. I am hoping there is Justice for Kelsey!!
 
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Confirming the Conoco is in Florissant. KK did not leave for Idaho from Woodland Park at 7:30pm. She witnessed the fire as did SF.

Jakob Rodgers‏ @JakobRodgers
Lee said she left the gas station with #PatrickFrazee & retrieved #KelseyBerreth's body from land Frazee leased near Cripple Creek, then burned Berreth's body at Frazee's ranch. Lee returned to the gas station after returning from ranch & before returning to Idado that night.

11:06 AM - 8 Nov 2019
 
  • #1,632
From the testimony, especially the ranch hands, after the fire whatever remained was dumped, probably in the river.

There is no body, no remains, for him to give them.

The closest river is probably
In 11 mile canyon
 
  • #1,633
Why would the head security officer of a large hospital know who was at work? Not questioning his/her word, just seems odd to me. JMOL

Most medical facilities use Kronos, an employee management and tracking system, using photo ID, electronic key cards.

You scan when you enter/leave the hospital. Certain secured areas, ie..ER, OR, ICUS, Nursey etc, require scanning before entry. Badge scanning is required before you can access patient records, give meds, or chart. It is able to track entire movement thru facility and campus.

The employer selects the type of tracking functions or package.
Smaller hospitals may only use for entry to hospital and secure areas.Larger hospitals track every move.

A really "sweet" system and meet regulatory guidelines for security, HIPPA and data can/is used to terminate and prosecute employees/vendors.

Most, including small facilities require outside physician, vendors and delivery personnel to apply and be granted a Kronos badge.

Its Big Brother at its finest. Provides, security, payroll information, HR tracking, and will even keep track of all training classes competed and employee and vendor inoculation requirements (TB, HBV, flu shoots).

Not only used by Hospitals but many small and large corporations.

MOO... The Security Director would have captured KKs movements, provided to LE under a search warrant and attested to her work hours.

All Kronos Products
 
  • #1,634
He stated what he observed. And we also don’t get to know the context of the questions he was answering. He may have been asked a leading question like, “Did you see PF with the baby? What were his interactions with her like?”

I’m in journalism myself and know all too well that a story ends up being shaped as much by how questions are framed as by how they are answered.

And sometimes people twist themselves into pretzels trying to turn a bad guy into a good guy.

Anyone who spoke negative words to the press about Kelsey when her parents were suffering doesn't deserve to have his meanness rehabilitated.
 
  • #1,635
No way is the prosecution offering PF a deal. They have him dead to rights. If anything, PF's public defenders are begging him to let them approach the State with an offer and he's too stupid to listen. All MOO, of course.
What could they offer, KB’s remains for a cell where Mommy can visit? Dan’l sure isn’t going to give him the opportunity to be paroled.
 
  • #1,636
While Radar did not take the witness stand (Hurst said he was concerned the 140-pound dog would slobber all over the 115-year-old courtroom in Teller County), he was certified as an expert nevertheless.

“This is the first time I’ve ever certified an animal as an expert before,” Judge Scott Sells said, evoking a laugh from the jury after two days of emotionally-charged testimony.


Witnesses corroborate parts of Krystal Lee's testimony about the murder of Kelsey Berreth
 
  • #1,637
Newbie, but I've followed this from the early days. All this talk around CC and his insinuations about Kelsey remind me that there was someone posting to the Kelsey thread in the very early days that said disparaging comments about her. And the comments were similar to what CC said to the media. It was gross. Reminded me of the same type of messages on the Watts thread about Shannan. Very upsetting. I've tried to find the ones about Kelsey and can't. I assume they were removed. I am hoping there is Justice for Kelsey!!

Your memory is correct. I believe the poster you're thinking of alleged she was part of PF's immediate family but was never verified, and their posts removed.

Good for you to join the tread again!

MOO
 
  • #1,638
No way is the prosecution offering PF a deal. They have him dead to rights. If anything, PF's public defenders are begging him to let them approach the State with an offer and he's too stupid to listen. All MOO, of course.
"Come on , Patrick....one hoof beat for Yes and two for No."
 
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Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
The breadth of witnesses that we’ve heard from today is interesting. So many people tangentially connected - or not connected at all - to #PatrickFrazee have now become wrapped up in his trial. Teens who worked on his ranch, lady who manages Woodland Park Sonic Drive In, etc
12:38 PM - 8 Nov 2019
 
  • #1,640
Claiming the mother of your child abused your child and took off before without notice leaving the child with you would be used in a family court against the person as a negative because both would show Kelsey to be of low character. Therefore factually, it is disparaging in that sense.

The fact that neither are true make the intent of his statements clear.


I tried to get clarification on how much time Kelsey worked out of town and how much PF had the actual care of the baby in his control. No telling what he told others about this arrangement. It seems, and I'm not sure, that this man didn't know Kelsey and was just repeating what PF had told him. Someone on here stated he made those statements early into the investigation. His opinion may be different now, who knows. I hate when I get into a case late and don't know all the in's and out's. And there seems to have been plenty of discussion on this one that I've missed.
 
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