CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

[lindaromas]

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Krystal testified that she and Patrick left the Conoco together in his truck to go retrieve the tote with Kelsey’s body inside from Nash Ranch, then later to Patricks ranch to burn the body. Prosecutors show Conoco surveillance, attempting to corroborate timelines
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Prosecution shows photos & videos from Conoco surveillance on 11/24/18 afternoon, showing Krystal’s black car & Frazee’s red truck there multiple times throughout the afternoon and evening.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Jennifer Meckles on Twitter
Conoco video (11/24/18 ~4:30) also shows Frazee retrieve a gas can from his truck bed & fill it up. Krystal testified that Patrick used a gas can for the fire when he burned Kelsey’s body, & later showed investigators where it was on his property.
12:17 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Thank you Pommy!
There's my answer! They went to Nash Ranch in his truck!

 

[Lhughessk]

It depends on what the burning did to the tooth. Seems like the softer structures may have burned away leaving the enamel which has little to no DNA. However, even if there was no DNA, just having a human tooth in the burn pile is significant.

If there is no DNA, then how can they say for sure that the tooth is a human tooth and not an animal one?

 

[MemPat]

BTW..speaking of bats...um...didn't KK drive down to CO with the bat? If so..KK provided the bat. PF is so dang lazy he won't even use his own bat. Yet another way to set up KK for the whole thing.
Is this correct?

Different murder plan.
Different bat.

 

[Seattle1]

And for the tooth and black plastic located in the burn area, this is why KK received a plea deal-- she corroborated the evidence:

@EliseSchmelzer
We’ve been walked through multiple searches of #PatrickFrazee ranch. On one of first searches involved multiple FBI evidence teams, ~100 search and rescue personnel and seven cadaver dogs.

Didn’t find much, but this is before Kenney told investigators what she knew.

2:10 PM - 8 Nov 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Thank you Pommy!
There's my answer! They went to Nash Ranch in his truck!

You're welcome. I'm of the opinion that we are never going to have all of our questions answered but in the next two weeks, I think we'll have many more. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

And for the tooth and black plastic located in the burn area, this is why KK received a plea deal-- she corroborated the evidence:

@EliseSchmelzer
We’ve been walked through multiple searches of #PatrickFrazee ranch. On one of first searches involved multiple FBI evidence teams, ~100 search and rescue personnel and seven cadaver dogs.

Didn’t find much, but this is before Kenney told investigators what she knew.

2:10 PM - 8 Nov 2019

Exactly. MOO

 

[0101ABA]

@KayElJay, we're in desperate need of a new thread before court lets out in another hour or two! Approaching 2,000 posts.

Pretty please with sugar on top?

Let me see what I can do. It may not look beautiful at first and may need a little tweaking when I get home but give me a few minutes. I’m at work and have never started a new thread on my phone before. **Fingers crossed**

 

[Steelhead]

Has PF known about this all along? That a tooth was found in the burn pile in December? Please say no.

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 8, 2019
Patrick Frazee trial: FBI investigators found partial human tooth on Frazee's property

Teller County Sheriff deputies lead Patrick Frazee, 33, out of the Teller County Courthouse in April.

FBI investigators searching a hidden burn area on Patrick Frazee’s property found a startling discovery, including a partial human tooth, according to testimony in court Friday.

It came as prosecutors moved to corroborate testimony from their star witness, Krystal Lee, who said Frazee personally confessed to beating his fiancée with a baseball bat last Thanksgiving Day and then burned her body.

[...]

The FBI’s final search focused on a 5-foot-by-7-foot area that was covered by about one to two inches of soil. The dirt differed in color from the rest of the driveway and underneath, was a layer of melted plastic.

While shoveling off the dirt and removing the plastic, the special agent said he smelled ash and smoke, and then a burning plastic odor.

[...]

Surveillance camera footage presented in court showed Lee and Frazee at a Conoco gas station in Florissant and a Sonic Drive-In in Woodland Park on Nov. 24, two days after Berreth was allegedly beaten to death inside her Woodland Park home.

[...]

That same day, Frazee's truck and a black car, driven by Lee, are captured pulling in and out of a Conoco gas station through the late afternoon and into the evening. The footage supports Lee's testimony that she left the gas station with Frazee, retrieved Berreth's body, and then burned her body on Frazee's ranch.

[...]

(There's that word again...corroborate.)

 

[Simply Southern]

Let me see what I can do. It may not look beautiful at first and may need a little tweaking when I get home but give me a few minutes. I’m at work and have never started a new thread on my phone before. **Fingers crossed**

Thank you so much!!!

 

[Seattle1]

However LE got it, we know they did as the expert testified under oath.

Kelsey's phone traveling to Idaho is what put LE on track to solve the case.

Facts are just so...so....so....how do I put this?....factual.

And this is such a pretty paragraph of the AR Application/Affidavit #39:

 

[MassGuy]

Has PF known about this all along? That a tooth was found in the burn pile in December? Please say no.

Yes, he would have. The prosecution has to inform the defense of all the evidence they have.

 

[Teche]

Too bad they can't send him to prison in Mississippi.....hell on earth....

Or Angola in my state of Louisiana.

 

[PommyMommy]

Let me see what I can do. It may not look beautiful at first and may need a little tweaking when I get home but give me a few minutes. I’m at work and have never started a new thread on my phone before. **Fingers crossed**

Thank you!

 

[MemPat]

well for some reason I have four axes. Not sure how that happened. I don't really think they are all mine...two maybe...

I have 50+ pairs of scissors. I scare myself.

 

[skyedaze]

That may certainly turn out to be the case. I am in no way saying her body wasn’t in the tote. I guess it probably was.

But.. Radar would not have been able to differentiate between an actual body versus, say, items that had blood and brain matter on them. Right?

Although not likely, PF could have led KL to believe he was burning the body when he had actually disposed of it in some other way. So that IF she talked to police, they would be focused on that patch of land and wouldn’t look elsewhere. And he could enjoy his internal fantasy of being the only one who knows where the body is.

Because trying to think like PF would, if I had really burned a body there, why not put a little more effort into making sure that ground was covered? Bring in a backhoe and pick up dirt and sift thru it, or have those teens do it? It’s like he wasn’t super concerned about what authorities might find there. Because he knew the real prize to find was somewhere else entirely? I don’t know, I’m just speculating.

why hide the tote 15 ft high and miles away if nothing but a speck or two of brain matter is there?
And then why would he bother to tell her the remnants were dumped in a landfill or river afterwards?

 

[AnnaGrace]

He would, only if it was human. The jury is still out on if there was DNA recovered, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t.

Although I’m really, really, hoping that there was DNA extracted.

If there's no DNA could they possibly tell from dental records? Like x-rays? Hopeful thinking!
This is the biggest bombshell yet!

 

[MemPat]

Or Angola in my state of Louisiana.

Another fine contender....We wish.

 

[skyedaze]

If there is no DNA, then how can they say for sure that the tooth is a human tooth and not an animal one?

human teeth do not look the same as dog or cow teeth

 

[MassGuy]

If there's no DNA could they possibly tell from dental records? Like x-rays? Hopeful thinking!
This is the biggest bombshell yet!

I think it’s a fragment, and dental records require several teeth in order to make a comparison.

So jurors will be required to use logic, if there’s no DNA.