CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #61

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KK blames PF for everything which is no surprise. But why would PF request KK get a burner phone when he was contacting her via the ranch's landline? Her entire testimony seems to be total deflection and embellishment. I think the jury is going to have a very hard time trying to figure out what is true and what isn't.

I look forward to LE testimony about how much blood evidence the chemical analysis uncovered in the condo.

JMO
Well one of the burner phones was for KK to text KB and try to set up a coffee date as her "Cassie Johnson" alter ego:

Frazee’s attorney asked her how many burner phones she had, to which she said she had two. Prosecutors asked her what she did with the second. She responded that she used it to text Berreth to set up the coffee meeting. She said she burned it after she left on Oct. 21.

Frazee trial: Defense asks why Kenney didn't alert authorities
 
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If she buries her son, she is telling the truth. If she does anything but that, then she is lying.

It’s simple, because that fire happened.
Wouldn’t it be great if they could poll the jury now ?? There is no way after this well constructed display of evidence and testimony he will be freed and I’m guessing they may wonder why they can’t have the death penalty - doesn’t CO still have it ??
 
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Long time lurker and way behind and trying to catch up, but absolutely stuck on PF not feeling well this morning...suck it up buttercup. They delayed proceedings for this?? Did sweet Kelsey get any kind of consideration from PF?? Am just appalled. Drag his sorry, sick, twisted, murderous behind in on time. Let the jury see him "sick" because he knows his goose is rightfully cooked...
Smelling my own goose cooking would certainly turn my stomach. Poor guy. :eek:
 
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Wouldn’t it be great if the could poll the jury now ?? There is no way after this well constructed display of evidence and testimony he will be freed and I’m guessing they may wonder why they can’t have the death penalty - doesn’t CO still have it ??

Oh, he’s already done, and it’s only day 5.

They do have the DP, but it’s pointless in the state of Colorado. No one has been put to death in over 2 decades, and no one will be executed in the future.
 
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Wouldn’t it be great if they could poll the jury now ?? There is no way after this well constructed display of evidence and testimony he will be freed and I’m guessing they may wonder why they can’t have the death penalty - doesn’t CO still have it ??

We have it. Doesn't ever get used.

Even if they were trying for the death penalty and he got sentenced to death don't think the state of CO would ever execute him.

In the long run probably better for family.
 
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Yeah, didn't Krystal borrow her car (to which her tag and registration was not current), the same car that had Stein's gun in it, to which when Krystal brought it back, she noticed that a bullet had been fired or was it missing?
Different friend. The friend she borrowed car from was Meghan Garrison.
 
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The Rockstalls (sp?)will be coming up in days possibly. KK was excused but NOT released.
The only thing the Rockstalls could testify to was hearsay for PF solicitation. I doubt they are on the witness list. MOO
 
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What a liar! Not surprised, at all. Good thing the evidence is pointing at PF and there’s no doubt he’s the murderer. She’s done herself no favours by trying to put herself in a better light. It’s just too transparent and so blatantly obvious it deserves the vomit emoji over and over again. I’ll spare you :)

Again, this could be her lawyer giving her hints on how to present herself better to the jury. LE, attorneys, WS, and others know the truth. Just another tactic.
 
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I'm an RN too. I have never had mandatory education related to being a mandatory reporter that stated one should repeatedly call.

Sorry, I didn't word that very well. I should have said ...

During training/incidents, questions and frustration arise, when DCPS does not respond in a way we feel appropriate. Trainer or supervisors usually/should be providing and encouraging the Next Step Process...report to supervisors, LE, DCPS and pursue the next level in chain of command.
Lack of action, should not negate responsibly to protect.

ETA... Most training or orientation is covered in risk management.

JMHO ...
 
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I hope you're there for that demonstration, GoJacks!
Yay you!!

(Your quote about how huge the black box was in court today disappeared, my friend. I'm so tech-savvy I scare myself.)

[Re-reading my last sentence reminded me that I offended someone on WS for calling her "my friend". I promise this is sincere!]
 
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Oh, he’s already done, and it’s only day 5.

They do have the DP, but it’s pointless in the state of Colorado. No one has been put to death in over 2 decades, and no one will be executed in the future.

Can we silently move (DP) the trial to TX? :) lol
 
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Transporting dog semen sounds like a good fit for her.


KK will find a job easier then we think. First, the murder did not take place on her turf. Second, people in her home town will feel sorry for her and give her a job. KK will get something....and maybe contribute to her children’s care. KK sure messed up big time with her family.....
 
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The only thing the Rockstalls could testify to was hearsay for PF solicitation. I doubt they are on the witness list. MOO

Possibly not! But were definitely mentioned in the live chat as a possibility so mentioned it.
 
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KK will find a job easier then we think. First, the murder did not take place on her turf. Second, people in her home town will feel sorry for her and give her a job. KK will get something....and maybe contribute to her children’s care. KK sure messed up big time with her family.....

bbm.. I hope the only contribution to her children's care is from a BIG distance and monetary. she obviously belongs nowhere near children, not even her own! moo
 
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What?

Why would it need to "hold weight"

It was on gravel. Gravel that has burns scars on it.

....I have no idea where you're going with this.
Yes, in theory it didn't need a bottom at all as its purpose was just to provide a perimeter around what was being burned to enclose the fire.

Listening to the amount of time that fire burned was hard and how PF seemed to stay on top of things by watching the fire too.
 
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Sam says that PF told the boys who cleaned up about placing the remnants left from the burning in the river..
OMG, those poor boys! Even though they had absolutely no way of knowing what the remnants were, that is going to upset and haunt them for the rest of their lives.

Just think, Krystal could have prevented these boys from such a traumatic revelation.
 
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I am a bit surprised to learn that they mentioned that PF told them that the "remnants" need to be discarded in the river. At least we somewhat know why LE never searched for the physical remains/body. That was a big question in the beginning when the dumps turned up nada. moo


I was going to ask this question....what river or rivers are close by that the remain could have been dumped in?

I thought early in reporting, it was said LE was observed searching a river. That KK told LE about PF dumping the body in a river. Does anyone remember this?

I wonder if PF told the young ‘men’ which river he used.

I think we have a lot of bombshells coming out in the next days. LE kept it all very quiet, no leaks. Good for them!
 
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Oh my.
Is there really such a business as selling dog semen?
I thought PF did things the old fashioned way.
Yes. It is a lucrative business just as selling bull semen is a lucrative business. I learned that back in the 70s when I hitched a ride home from college with a high school friend who was in veterinary school. For three hours, I shared the backseat with a container of bull semen. The guy's family ran a dairy farm.

I don't know much about life on a ranch, raising animals. The "hooker" comment really floored me and so did the comment about KB required to stay outside if PF's sister was visiting. That's beyond cruel and I hope SF is asked about it and I hope she answers truthfully.

JMO
 
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Oh, he’s already done, and it’s only day 5.

They do have the DP, but it’s pointless in the state of Colorado. No one has been put to death in over 2 decades, and no one will be executed in the future.

If he could only go to that terrible prison where you get one sliver of window looking onto nothing and no human contact....dinner through a slit in the door....the one where all the terrorists reside.

ETA: SuperMax?
 
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OMG, those poor boys! Even though they had absolutely no way of knowing what the remnants were, that is going to upset and haunt them for the rest of their lives.

Just think, Krystal could have prevented these boys from such a traumatic revelation.

It was not elaborated upon whether or not they DID actually do so. JUST that PF purposed that, that is where the "remnants" that did not fully burn should (or was going to) go. I hope we learn more tomorrow.
 
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